Tell an opinion you have that is in the strong minority

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

Well good - at least you're honest about that. Because feminism, in my book, includes celebrating the many choices women have and their ability to go after the one that works for them.

So all the 1950s housewives were feminists, or you're a feminist because you could use your education for paid employment, yet choose not to do so?

1950s housewives didn't have the opportunities that we do today, so staying home with one's children really wasn't a choice. It was expected. Nowadays, however, women can choose to do or be whatever they want to. That's what feminism is supposed to celebrate - equal rights, equal opportunities, equal pay. I can go to school, get a good education, work, have children, continue working, decide to stay home with my kids, return to work later, or not. Who are you, or anyone else, to tell women who choose to be home with children that their choice is somehow invalid? That makes you an anti-feminist, in my book. Women are supposed to support other women, not tear them down. Guess you didn't get the memo.

Does your husband have all those freedoms too? Or is he expected to just foot the bill while you do whatever you want?

My husband - a feminist, by the way! - doesn't consider himself to be "footing the bill". Very telling that you would look at it that way. We're a team and look at our life that way. He's happy doing what he does and is also happy knowing I'm doing what I choose to do, which is take care of our kids. Why are you so concerned about other people's lives and marriage dynamics? How about you worry about your own?

What if your husband came home from work tonight and told you he was choosing to stay home too? Would that be okay with you? Would you then have to get a job so he could have his chance to stay home with the kids? It seems like if you truly believe in equal rights and that working is a decision anyone has be right to make, then this would include men being able to decide to stay home. I have a feeling a lot of SAHMs wouldn't be happy trading places with their husbands.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

Well good - at least you're honest about that. Because feminism, in my book, includes celebrating the many choices women have and their ability to go after the one that works for them.

So all the 1950s housewives were feminists, or you're a feminist because you could use your education for paid employment, yet choose not to do so?

1950s housewives didn't have the opportunities that we do today, so staying home with one's children really wasn't a choice. It was expected. Nowadays, however, women can choose to do or be whatever they want to. That's what feminism is supposed to celebrate - equal rights, equal opportunities, equal pay. I can go to school, get a good education, work, have children, continue working, decide to stay home with my kids, return to work later, or not. Who are you, or anyone else, to tell women who choose to be home with children that their choice is somehow invalid? That makes you an anti-feminist, in my book. Women are supposed to support other women, not tear them down. Guess you didn't get the memo.

Does your husband have all those freedoms too? Or is he expected to just foot the bill while you do whatever you want?

My husband - a feminist, by the way! - doesn't consider himself to be "footing the bill". Very telling that you would look at it that way. We're a team and look at our life that way. He's happy doing what he does and is also happy knowing I'm doing what I choose to do, which is take care of our kids. Why are you so concerned about other people's lives and marriage dynamics? How about you worry about your own?

What if your husband came home from work tonight and told you he was choosing to stay home too? Would that be okay with you? Would you then have to get a job so he could have his chance to stay home with the kids? It seems like if you truly believe in equal rights and that working is a decision anyone has be right to make, then this would include men being able to decide to stay home. I have a feeling a lot of SAHMs wouldn't be happy trading places with their husbands.

+10000.

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Not pp, but I'd do it. I don't think dh would want to though, but if he did, no problem.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

I do. That's why I find it so disturbing to see a generation of women choosing to give up their own lives to focus on their children. I see their energy and creativity and productivity wasted on bento boxes and halloween costumes and over-the-top birthday parties.

Honestly, it worries me that this country is losing so much vitality and gaining only a generation of coddled, helicoptered kids.

Amen and one thousand agreement plus signs.

I fully agree too. It's even scarier they won't admit they do it.

Wtf are you deluded wohm's talking about? More mothers are choosing to work than at any other time in modern history. And the kids get more and more psychological issues (self harm, transgender, depression, anxiety, insomnia etc etc etc) and everyone gets fatter and fatter. But hey, at least you proved yourself to be cleverer than everyone else with a big female brain "that can handle more than just being a wife and mommy"

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

I do. That's why I find it so disturbing to see a generation of women choosing to give up their own lives to focus on their children. I see their energy and creativity and productivity wasted on bento boxes and halloween costumes and over-the-top birthday parties.

Honestly, it worries me that this country is losing so much vitality and gaining only a generation of coddled, helicoptered kids.

Amen and one thousand agreement plus signs.

I fully agree too. It's even scarier they won't admit they do it.

Wtf are you deluded wohm's talking about? More mothers are choosing to work than at any other time in modern history. And the kids get more and more psychological issues (self harm, transgender, depression, anxiety, insomnia etc etc etc) and everyone gets fatter and fatter. But hey, at least you proved yourself to be cleverer than everyone else with a big female brain "that can handle more than just being a wife and mommy"

You're right!!! Helicopter parents are raising kids to be fat kids with mental problems because they can't or won't discipline! It's a sign of the times whether sah or woh parents! Give in to every fast food quick convienence, let kids talk to them any kind of way, and push the kids to not always achievable expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

I do. That's why I find it so disturbing to see a generation of women choosing to give up their own lives to focus on their children. I see their energy and creativity and productivity wasted on bento boxes and halloween costumes and over-the-top birthday parties.

Honestly, it worries me that this country is losing so much vitality and gaining only a generation of coddled, helicoptered kids.

Amen and one thousand agreement plus signs.

I fully agree too. It's even scarier they won't admit they do it.

Wtf are you deluded wohm's talking about? More mothers are choosing to work than at any other time in modern history. And the kids get more and more psychological issues (self harm, transgender, depression, anxiety, insomnia etc etc etc) and everyone gets fatter and fatter. But hey, at least you proved yourself to be cleverer than everyone else with a big female brain "that can handle more than just being a wife and mommy"

+1 I guess a lot of us feel this way and that's why we insist on telling wohm's off

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Anonymous wrote:I think the jury in the Zimmerman case reached the right verdict; innocent little Trayvon was trying to bash Zimmerman's skull open against a concrete sidewalk (Trayvon wasn't as innocent as first portrayed). He was a violent punk who turned into the aggressor.

But Zimmerman - while not a murderer - should never have followed Trayvon around; the guy's behavior before and since that night suggest he has serious delusions about being a cop when he is not; following Trayvon was not his job. His weird personality and lack of judgement will eventually land him behind bars.

He also was not driven by racism; he's a person of color himself! Justice was right to drop the civil rights investigation ; Zimmerman used to volunteer as a tutor / mentor to disadvantaged black kids. Zimmerman was anti-crime, not anti-black.

Finally, this administration handled the whole affair miserably.

+1 AA's should focus on educating themselves to get out of poverty. Not marching for the life of a slain thug (who imo got what he deserved)

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

Well good - at least you're honest about that. Because feminism, in my book, includes celebrating the many choices women have and their ability to go after the one that works for them.

So all the 1950s housewives were feminists, or you're a feminist because you could use your education for paid employment, yet choose not to do so?

1950s housewives didn't have the opportunities that we do today, so staying home with one's children really wasn't a choice. It was expected. Nowadays, however, women can choose to do or be whatever they want to. That's what feminism is supposed to celebrate - equal rights, equal opportunities, equal pay. I can go to school, get a good education, work, have children, continue working, decide to stay home with my kids, return to work later, or not. Who are you, or anyone else, to tell women who choose to be home with children that their choice is somehow invalid? That makes you an anti-feminist, in my book. Women are supposed to support other women, not tear them down. Guess you didn't get the memo.

Does your husband have all those freedoms too? Or is he expected to just foot the bill while you do whatever you want?

My husband - a feminist, by the way! - doesn't consider himself to be "footing the bill". Very telling that you would look at it that way. We're a team and look at our life that way. He's happy doing what he does and is also happy knowing I'm doing what I choose to do, which is take care of our kids. Why are you so concerned about other people's lives and marriage dynamics? How about you worry about your own?

What if your husband came home from work tonight and told you he was choosing to stay home too? Would that be okay with you? Would you then have to get a job so he could have his chance to stay home with the kids? It seems like if you truly believe in equal rights and that working is a decision anyone has be right to make, then this would include men being able to decide to stay home. I have a feeling a lot of SAHMs wouldn't be happy trading places with their husbands.

+10000.

Really? You think most husbands would trade positions with their wife and carry and give birth to their children? Be the primary caregiver and the only partner who can breastfeed? Not in a million years would a normal man choose this.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

I do. That's why I find it so disturbing to see a generation of women choosing to give up their own lives to focus on their children. I see their energy and creativity and productivity wasted on bento boxes and halloween costumes and over-the-top birthday parties.

Honestly, it worries me that this country is losing so much vitality and gaining only a generation of coddled, helicoptered kids.

Amen and one thousand agreement plus signs.

I fully agree too. It's even scarier they won't admit they do it.

Wtf are you deluded wohm's talking about? More mothers are choosing to work than at any other time in modern history. And the kids get more and more psychological issues (self harm, transgender, depression, anxiety, insomnia etc etc etc) and everyone gets fatter and fatter. But hey, at least you proved yourself to be cleverer than everyone else with a big female brain "that can handle more than just being a wife and mommy"

+1 I guess a lot of us feel this way and that's why we insist on telling wohm's off

Big words, but you'd never dare say them in real life/in person.

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I believe every convicted child molester should receive the death penalty.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

Well good - at least you're honest about that. Because feminism, in my book, includes celebrating the many choices women have and their ability to go after the one that works for them.

So all the 1950s housewives were feminists, or you're a feminist because you could use your education for paid employment, yet choose not to do so?

1950s housewives didn't have the opportunities that we do today, so staying home with one's children really wasn't a choice. It was expected. Nowadays, however, women can choose to do or be whatever they want to. That's what feminism is supposed to celebrate - equal rights, equal opportunities, equal pay. I can go to school, get a good education, work, have children, continue working, decide to stay home with my kids, return to work later, or not. Who are you, or anyone else, to tell women who choose to be home with children that their choice is somehow invalid? That makes you an anti-feminist, in my book. Women are supposed to support other women, not tear them down. Guess you didn't get the memo.

Does your husband have all those freedoms too? Or is he expected to just foot the bill while you do whatever you want?

My husband - a feminist, by the way! - doesn't consider himself to be "footing the bill". Very telling that you would look at it that way. We're a team and look at our life that way. He's happy doing what he does and is also happy knowing I'm doing what I choose to do, which is take care of our kids. Why are you so concerned about other people's lives and marriage dynamics? How about you worry about your own?

What if your husband came home from work tonight and told you he was choosing to stay home too? Would that be okay with you? Would you then have to get a job so he could have his chance to stay home with the kids? It seems like if you truly believe in equal rights and that working is a decision anyone has be right to make, then this would include men being able to decide to stay home. I have a feeling a lot of SAHMs wouldn't be happy trading places with their husbands.

+10000.

Really? You think most husbands would trade positions with their wife and carry and give birth to their children? Be the primary caregiver and the only partner who can breastfeed? Not in a million years would a normal man choose this.

Just because you're a woman doesn't mean you can breastfeed. Additionally, every SAHM doesn't breastfeed.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for those of you who look down upon SAHMs: Do you consider yourself a feminist?

Not really.

I do. That's why I find it so disturbing to see a generation of women choosing to give up their own lives to focus on their children. I see their energy and creativity and productivity wasted on bento boxes and halloween costumes and over-the-top birthday parties.

Honestly, it worries me that this country is losing so much vitality and gaining only a generation of coddled, helicoptered kids.

Amen and one thousand agreement plus signs.

I fully agree too. It's even scarier they won't admit they do it.

Wtf are you deluded wohm's talking about? More mothers are choosing to work than at any other time in modern history. And the kids get more and more psychological issues (self harm, transgender, depression, anxiety, insomnia etc etc etc) and everyone gets fatter and fatter. But hey, at least you proved yourself to be cleverer than everyone else with a big female brain "that can handle more than just being a wife and mommy"

+1 I guess a lot of us feel this way and that's why we insist on telling wohm's off

Big words, but you'd never dare say them in real life/in person.

There are plenty of thing that you don't say in person, get off your high horse and go back to reading those cases

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Anonymous wrote:I think the jury in the Zimmerman case reached the right verdict; innocent little Trayvon was trying to bash Zimmerman's skull open against a concrete sidewalk (Trayvon wasn't as innocent as first portrayed). He was a violent punk who turned into the aggressor.

But Zimmerman - while not a murderer - should never have followed Trayvon around; the guy's behavior before and since that night suggest he has serious delusions about being a cop when he is not; following Trayvon was not his job. His weird personality and lack of judgement will eventually land him behind bars.

He also was not driven by racism; he's a person of color himself! Justice was right to drop the civil rights investigation ; Zimmerman used to volunteer as a tutor / mentor to disadvantaged black kids. Zimmerman was anti-crime, not anti-black.

Finally, this administration handled the whole affair miserably.

+1 AA's should focus on educating themselves to get out of poverty. Not marching for the life of a slain thug (who imo got what he deserved)

1) I'm an African-American who has not need to focus on getting out of poverty. Shockingly, not all of "us" are born into poverty. Secondly, not everyone who was marching for a slain thug were uneducated. There were *gasp* black lawyers, and other professionals out there marching! Please don't assume all African-Americans are either in poverty, or have worked their way out. That's like saying white people should focus on getting an education to work their way out of trailer parks.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't read all 120+ threads, but SAHM are lazy, and it's comical when they complain about being "tired." Yes, I'm awful but it's how I truly feel.

Aren't you a charmer. Sorry being a SAHM didn't work out for you. Clearly, you weren't cut out for it.

That's like saying...sorry being a drive-thru attendant at MickeyD's didn't work out for you, clearly you weren't cut out for it. Clearly I wasn't cut out for it because I have more ambition and capability than that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the jury in the Zimmerman case reached the right verdict; innocent little Trayvon was trying to bash Zimmerman's skull open against a concrete sidewalk (Trayvon wasn't as innocent as first portrayed). He was a violent punk who turned into the aggressor.

But Zimmerman - while not a murderer - should never have followed Trayvon around; the guy's behavior before and since that night suggest he has serious delusions about being a cop when he is not; following Trayvon was not his job. His weird personality and lack of judgement will eventually land him behind bars.

He also was not driven by racism; he's a person of color himself! Justice was right to drop the civil rights investigation ; Zimmerman used to volunteer as a tutor / mentor to disadvantaged black kids. Zimmerman was anti-crime, not anti-black.

Finally, this administration handled the whole affair miserably.

+1 AA's should focus on educating themselves to get out of poverty. Not marching for the life of a slain thug (who imo got what he deserved)

1) I'm an African-American who has not need to focus on getting out of poverty. Shockingly, not all of "us" are born into poverty. Secondly, not everyone who was marching for a slain thug were uneducated. There were *gasp* black lawyers, and other professionals out there marching! Please don't assume all African-Americans are either in poverty, or have worked their way out. That's like saying white people should focus on getting an education to work their way out of trailer parks.

Every ethnic group has to work their way out of poverty. The difference was that the catholics and other groups did not march for their thugs and criminals but instead worked to better themselves as a group