2024 Democratic National Convention

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Anonymous wrote:Since this is a discussion, and I’ve been clapping all along, yesterday hit different.
•I now feel it might be going on too long. The momentum we felt was unexpected and we were surprised and elated, better to end on a high note and have us wanting more.
•I was a little let down by Walz’s speech - I have heard it before and hoped it would be different
•While it is joyful, they are overusing the word joy

The main problem last night was Clinton went off script and for about 30 minutes too long. On the other hand, that was probably his last major public speech, so he milked it.

I thought Pete and Walz were fine/good.

With Biden, the Clintons and Pelosi, we are seeing a true transition to Harris, Pete, Jeffries etc. I agree that last night didn't have the same juju as the first two nights, but I expect tonight to end strong.

I hadn’t planned to watch any of this in real time, and I’m glad that I did. There was a point during Clinton’s speech when I was struck by the thought that, as you’ve said, this might be Clinton’s last speech on this scale. I’m not a fan of Bill, so I was startled at how poignant watching him speak actually felt. Pelosi seemed very much on-the-way-out, and felt kind of irrelevant. I guess what struck me is that, as you’ve said, it was a “true transition “ — but where I’ve been viewing it as a transition of policies and priorities, it really is a generational shift as well, with multiple dimensions involved in such a shift.

Yes, I was referring to the generational shift. Thank you for saying it better than I did!

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Thanks to the person who posted the link to the People article and explanation of what a non-verbal learning disorder is.

So, who will be the entertainment tonight? Someone on my social media says it's going to be Beyonce singing the Freedom song they've been using at rallies.

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Anonymous wrote:Troll skills are pretty good

It’s not a flex at all to display that you’re so sh|tty now that someone who privately thought you were great decades ago came out publicly decades later to endorse the person running against you.

yeah trump is stuck in the past reliving his glory days from 25 years ago. just like he keeps referencing movies like "silence of the lambs" from 35 years ago that no one under 50 understands.

he's so out of touch.

glad oprah endorsed harris on the stage of the dnc! that was a cool moment.

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How the GOP has gotten away with the claim they are better for the economy is beyond me.

I knew it was correct. Voting Democrat has always been good for my pocket book as well as my conscience.

+1

And national debt

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks to the person who posted the link to the People article and explanation of what a non-verbal learning disorder is.

So, who will be the entertainment tonight? Someone on my social media says it's going to be Beyonce singing the Freedom song they've been using at rallies.

Pink is performing. I don't think Beyonce is scheduled to perform, but she has authorized her song as the official song of the campaign.

I loved seeing Stevie Wonder and John Legend last night!

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This is the best convention I have seen in my lifetime. Just incredible.

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Anonymous wrote:Clinton spoke at the 1988 Dem convention and speech went on over an hour and when he said. "In conclusion," the entire audience cheered.

Clinton would be a Republican today.

More police, welfare reform, less taxes and regulations, no neocon imperialism.

The media would demonize him, like they did with (pretty moderate) Romney.

You know he’s still alive and spoke yesterday at the Republican convention, right?

Democratic Convention

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Anonymous wrote:I finished my 12th meeting today with Arab American and Muslim leaders - mostly in swing states.

I’ve spoken with several hundred community leaders.

They see the war and the killings - and won’t be voting for Kamala Harris.

Arab American support for Kamala has collapsed

They stupid. Let them support the man who restricted Muslims, Africans and Arabs from entering the country for four years.

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Love the convention so far, but I thought Oprah was going to start giving away cars at one point.

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Anonymous wrote:Troll skills are pretty good

That letter is really weird—the handwriting for the post script at the bottom is totally different. I DNGAF if she did write it—it’s 24 years ago and a lot has changed since then — but it really looks like different handwriting.

I just can't read a word she said

Jan 11 '00

Donald--I received the book
excerpt
I have to tell you
your comments made
me a little weepy
It's one thing to say
and live a life of
integrity--still another
to have people like yourself
notice.
-Thank you
Oprah
Too bad we're not running for office,
What a TEAM!

As usual, Trump is clinging to the past. In this case a letter written 24 years ago.

The letter is from 2000 Donald. When you were a democrat and has liberal social views and hadn't embraced MAGA. She heartily endorsed Obama in 2008 and was disgusted by Trump's racist birther comments. When Trump finally did run in 2016, Oprah didn't endorse the current version of Trump. She endorsed his opponent Hillary. And now in 2024, she has endorsed his opponent again, Kamala.

Well said. This should be copy and pasted every time Trump's campaign brings up past support. Bonus points if you include the people who actually supported him when he was president and will not vote for him again.

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Anonymous wrote:Troll skills are pretty good

That letter is really weird—the handwriting for the post script at the bottom is totally different. I DNGAF if she did write it—it’s 24 years ago and a lot has changed since then — but it really looks like different handwriting.

Also pretty sure this was back when opportunist Trump was still a Democrat.

Yes, it was. A reminder that he also donated to Kamala!

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Anonymous wrote:JD Vance is just terrible. Jake Tapper just asked him to respond to Buttigieg's response to his childless people do not have a commitment to the future of this country. (Buttigieg said tonight that when he served in Afghanistan, he didn't have kids and neither did most of his fellow troops, but you better believe their commitment to their country was pretty d--- physical).

Vance botched the supply. He couldn't defend himself other than saying his remark was sarcastic and Buttigieg should be more offended by the job he has done as Transportation Secretary. Like what? Why can't Vance just be a human? Why does he have to keep that smug expression on while he refuses to apologize. Just say "I'm sorry. That comment was tongue in cheek and I hate that I offended so many people."

But he opens his mouth, puts on a smarmy expression and just makes everything worse.

He is a dolt. There is no there there. A ghostwritten book and being backdoored into Yale doesn’t make you smart. He’s a midwit political prostitute.

He seems to have no charisma and little if any emotional intelligence. I find Vance even less relatable then Trump — even though we probably have only 2 or 3 degrees of separation. He carried himself as though he thinks he’s the smartest person in the room — when it’s apparent to most that he’s not. He’s arrogant, mean spirited and offensive. I know several people who are considering getting cats thanks to his comments, so there’s that.

Most memoirs are ghost written. About 80K to the writer. Half up front. Also if you don’t “kill the dog” no one buys the book. Many of the deets are inflated and dramatized. D’uh.

I don't think his was ghostwritten. He was a nobody when he wrote that book - he only became a somebody because of the book. People who have existing platforms get ghost writers - but other people write their book to build their platform. I think he's the latter. I'm sure if he writes another book he'll have help - that first one, though? I'd be surprised.

I thought he was a nobody who made good when I read it too. But now I wonder because of his relationship with Amy Chua. I'm pretty sure she got him his agent or publisher. I can definitely see that there could have been heavy editing if not someone ghostwriting it. If for nothing else than to make the book marketable and to go along with a personna created for a publicist to sell him in the press and to readers and reviewers. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a ghostwriter.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Troll skills are pretty good

That letter is really weird—the handwriting for the post script at the bottom is totally different. I DNGAF if she did write it—it’s 24 years ago and a lot has changed since then — but it really looks like different handwriting.

I just can't read a word she said

Jan 11 '00

Donald--I received the book
excerpt
I have to tell you
your comments made
me a little weepy
It's one thing to say
and live a life of
integrity--still another
to have people like yourself
notice.
-Thank you
Oprah
Too bad we're not running for office,
What a TEAM!

As usual, Trump is clinging to the past. In this case a letter written 24 years ago.

The letter is from 2000 Donald. When you were a democrat and has liberal social views and hadn't embraced MAGA. She heartily endorsed Obama in 2008 and was disgusted by Trump's racist birther comments. When Trump finally did run in 2016, Oprah didn't endorse the current version of Trump. She endorsed his opponent Hillary. And now in 2024, she has endorsed his opponent again, Kamala.

Well said. This should be copy and pasted every time Trump's campaign brings up past support. Bonus points if you include the people who actually supported him when he was president and will not vote for him again.

It's the same when they bring up "Party of Lincoln" and "the Democrats were Confederates". While technically correct, they don't understand or willfully ignorant about how the parties switched sides many, many decades ago. The Party of Lincoln, much less Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, and HW Bush would be unrecognizable to the current MAGAs. Hell, even Cheney, VP to W supports the Democrats today because of how weird, out of touch and anti-democratic Trump and the MAGAs are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is the best convention I have seen in my lifetime. Just incredible.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:JD Vance is just terrible. Jake Tapper just asked him to respond to Buttigieg's response to his childless people do not have a commitment to the future of this country. (Buttigieg said tonight that when he served in Afghanistan, he didn't have kids and neither did most of his fellow troops, but you better believe their commitment to their country was pretty d--- physical).

Vance botched the supply. He couldn't defend himself other than saying his remark was sarcastic and Buttigieg should be more offended by the job he has done as Transportation Secretary. Like what? Why can't Vance just be a human? Why does he have to keep that smug expression on while he refuses to apologize. Just say "I'm sorry. That comment was tongue in cheek and I hate that I offended so many people."

But he opens his mouth, puts on a smarmy expression and just makes everything worse.

He is a dolt. There is no there there. A ghostwritten book and being backdoored into Yale doesn’t make you smart. He’s a midwit political prostitute.

He seems to have no charisma and little if any emotional intelligence. I find Vance even less relatable then Trump — even though we probably have only 2 or 3 degrees of separation. He carried himself as though he thinks he’s the smartest person in the room — when it’s apparent to most that he’s not. He’s arrogant, mean spirited and offensive. I know several people who are considering getting cats thanks to his comments, so there’s that.

Most memoirs are ghost written. About 80K to the writer. Half up front. Also if you don’t “kill the dog” no one buys the book. Many of the deets are inflated and dramatized. D’uh.

I don't think his was ghostwritten. He was a nobody when he wrote that book - he only became a somebody because of the book. People who have existing platforms get ghost writers - but other people write their book to build their platform. I think he's the latter. I'm sure if he writes another book he'll have help - that first one, though? I'd be surprised.

I thought he was a nobody who made good when I read it too. But now I wonder because of his relationship with Amy Chua. I'm pretty sure she got him his agent or publisher. I can definitely see that there could have been heavy editing if not someone ghostwriting it. If for nothing else than to make the book marketable and to go along with a personna created for a publicist to sell him in the press and to readers and reviewers. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a ghostwriter.

I'll never forget Chua's full support and endorsement for Brett Kavanaugh as Supreme Court justice even after Kavanaugh was credibly accused of sexual assault by Christina Blasey Ford (and again later by Debra Rodriguez). It wasn't until years later when her husband Rubenfeld was accused of sexual harrassment that I saw she had a pattern of propping up and accusing problematic men. She sucks.