What happened to this California family?

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Anonymous wrote:Is hiking some trendy fad with liberal yuppies? This couple was clearly very into it — to the point of risking their health/life for it. And just now NYT shared a story on their main social media accounts reviewing hiking boots.

What’s the allure? I’m not anti nature but hiking is pretty boring.

If hiking is boring to you, leave nature for those who enjoy it. I do think it has gotten more popular and mainstream but it's not a fleeting fad. The allure-fresh air, sunshine, exercise, endorphins, wildlife, vegetation, scenery...dare I say boulders, escaping other humans, a sense of awe, etc.

Cringe. It’s so great that you have to document it with 1000 photos and all your expensive gear? Office dorks posturing as outdoorsy. And it’s always office dorks getting themselves into trouble from weather or wild animals or injuries.

Real hikers geek out on identifying plants and animals, and aren't posting pictures of themselves on social media. There are dorks who decide to take up hiking because they think it's trendy, and then go from never having hiked before to hiking the Appalachian Trail, just to be able to brag about it.

People like you are beyond insufferable. Like you get to decide what a real hiker is, or does.

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People have obviously run out of information.

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Anonymous wrote:Is hiking some trendy fad with liberal yuppies? This couple was clearly very into it — to the point of risking their health/life for it. And just now NYT shared a story on their main social media accounts reviewing hiking boots.

What’s the allure? I’m not anti nature but hiking is pretty boring.

If hiking is boring to you, leave nature for those who enjoy it. I do think it has gotten more popular and mainstream but it's not a fleeting fad. The allure-fresh air, sunshine, exercise, endorphins, wildlife, vegetation, scenery...dare I say boulders, escaping other humans, a sense of awe, etc.

Cringe. It’s so great that you have to document it with 1000 photos and all your expensive gear? Office dorks posturing as outdoorsy. And it’s always office dorks getting themselves into trouble from weather or wild animals or injuries.

Real hikers geek out on identifying plants and animals, and aren't posting pictures of themselves on social media. There are dorks who decide to take up hiking because they think it's trendy, and then go from never having hiked before to hiking the Appalachian Trail, just to be able to brag about it.

People like you are beyond insufferable. Like you get to decide what a real hiker is, or does.

+1 I bet the PP is not in shape and jealous of people who hike.

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Anonymous wrote:People have obviously run out of information.

LOL, yes.

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So many angry posters in this thread. Maybe you need to take a hike. 😄

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Anonymous wrote:People have obviously run out of information.

There have been very few facts released to the public so not much info at all.

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Maybe they did the Hites Cove trail, or meant to, but the dog took off in the other direction, and they all hiked down after him not realizing how difficult or far or hot it would be to get back up.

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Anonymous wrote:A hiker died this week in Utah's Mount Zion Park. Very similar conditions to this family - he was hiking for 9 miles, the weather was over 95F, and he suffered from heat exhaustion. An interesting point made was that the body shuts down when the internal temperature hits 103F. Its very likely that this CA family, which was hiking in temps nearly 10 degrees higher, suffered the same fate.

A hiker has died of suspected heat stroke in Zion National Park in Utah amid 95 degree heat, park officials have announced.

John Henry Wolfe, from Milwaukee, had reached the end of a strenuous nine mile canyon trail on Monday when he started complaining about exhaustion, a statement from the National Park Service said.
https://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2021/08/31/prc-hiker-dies-from-apparent-heat-exhaustion-in-zion-national-park/#.YTEU_d8pDZs

I haven’t read the last few pages of this thread yet, so someone may have posted this already, but it looks like the Zion hiker’s dad passed away earlier this summer. That poor family. https://www.jsonline.com/obituaries/mjs048599

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe they did the Hites Cove trail, or meant to, but the dog took off in the other direction, and they all hiked down after him not realizing how difficult or far or hot it would be to get back up.

Oski was an older dog so I doubt he took off so far in the heat that his owners would have to chase him down.

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I was in Arches & Canyonlands in late June/July and our guide, a highly experienced hiker and wilderness expert, said that he had encountered a man who later died of heatstroke/exposure on a hike we did in the Needles district of Canyonlands. He said the man was with a hiking partner but was running low on water and flatly refused the offer of more water from his hiking partner or anyone else, and that close to a dozen people met him and tried to help but he refused everything. Heat stroke can manifest in a lot of ways and make its sufferers delusional. It was 100-105 degrees on that day and very dangerous. This poor family probably suffered a similar end.

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Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

People die every month in 'low humidity areas' while hiking in 90F - 100F weather. A woman hiking with an experienced date just died in Phoenix, Arizona.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-who-died-hiking-camelback-mountain-was-with-phoenix-officer/article_c5da8612-f340-11eb-a3a8-57a0ab85303a.html

I'm in the heatstroke camp, but I don't think this is a good comparison. The woman who died in AZ had just flown in from Boston, which can lead to dehydration. Neither she or her date brought water with them and he abandoned her partway through the short hike.

Agree. I would not be surprised if alcohol wasn’t also a factor.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t walk... we’re super outdoorsy and active so we do challenging HIKES. Sorry you’re not on our level and don’t appreciate the awe of ... shopping for bear spray and new hiking boots. Office dorks desperate for rough edges. It’s like the middle aged dorks doing tough mudder competitions, but much less testosterone.

So cringe.

you're gatekeeping...hiking? ooookay

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going for a recreational hike anywhere when it's 95+ outside is not a good idea. Look at all the people they have to rescue from bill goat trail near the Potomac every year.

This is absolutely not true in low humidity areas. I live in Northern California and hike all summer in 95+ temperatures. Be smart in choosing your hikes and carry plenty of water and you'll be fine.

People die every month in 'low humidity areas' while hiking in 90F - 100F weather. A woman hiking with an experienced date just died in Phoenix, Arizona.
https://www.azfamily.com/news/woman-who-died-hiking-camelback-mountain-was-with-phoenix-officer/article_c5da8612-f340-11eb-a3a8-57a0ab85303a.html

I'm in the heatstroke camp, but I don't think this is a good comparison. The woman who died in AZ had just flown in from Boston, which can lead to dehydration. Neither she or her date brought water with them and he abandoned her partway through the short hike.

Agree. I would not be surprised if alcohol wasn’t also a factor.

I’m a big hiker and I don’t know any serious hikers that drink before or during a hike. Maybe afterwards to celebrate a strenuous hike, but not during.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t walk... we’re super outdoorsy and active so we do challenging HIKES. Sorry you’re not on our level and don’t appreciate the awe of ... shopping for bear spray and new hiking boots. Office dorks desperate for rough edges. It’s like the middle aged dorks doing tough mudder competitions, but much less testosterone.

So cringe.

Hey Barbie. Suuuper.

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Anonymous wrote:We don’t walk... we’re super outdoorsy and active so we do challenging HIKES. Sorry you’re not on our level and don’t appreciate the awe of ... shopping for bear spray and new hiking boots. Office dorks desperate for rough edges. It’s like the middle aged dorks doing tough mudder competitions, but much less testosterone.

So cringe.

you're gatekeeping...hiking? ooookay

Seriously. Who, pray tell, is allowed to hike?