ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

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Anonymous wrote:DHS announced that Jonathan Ross has a past record of hurting himself by attempting to wrestle with car driver, violating policy and escalated violence and increased risk to officer safety.

As usual, their cruelty is rivaled only by their incompetence.


Super high risk individual, sounds like they should subpoena his psyche evaluation and see if he should have been out there in the first place.
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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone



You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.


DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.


+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.


I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.


I believe in personal responsibility. You don’t. Tomato tomahto.

If she wasn’t an ICE agitator (all news coming out now points to this) her life wouldn’t have been at risk.

I teach my kids to make smart choices. Don’t put yourself in harms way because “men shouldn’t rape!” “People shouldn’t kill”. “People shouldn’t steal!” Newsflash - they do and they will.


+1 correct!

Personal responsibility means you get murdered without a trial? You think this is convincing to normal people?

This is why Trump’s popularity is in the tank. No one wants this. Even X is full of people calling out this travesty. If the Republican Party had any instinct towards self preservation, the least they could do is shut up. But nope, the tribe is here all day long cheering a stranger’s death.


But I mean, thanks for setting the precedent. The next time one of these militia groups decides to cosplay through the streets, we can just bomb em all to oblivion.


I hope all the ICE defenders remember their argument next time ICE agents drive their vehicles into a group of people (plenty of videos circulating) and someone shoots them in the head. Self defense, amiright?


This wasn’t a “random shooting in the head.” They were in an active altercation with her.
At no time, no where, have ICE randomly run upon group of people and started shooting.

If you can’t partake in a rational conversation without ridiculous hyperbole, you don’t have a very good point.



I’m sorry to have to tell you this, but there are many documented instances where ice has done this. I know it’s hard to believe, but it’s true. And now here we are.
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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone



You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.


DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.


+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.


I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.


How many times should he have shot her as she tried to kill him?

She wasn’t trying to kill him by all indications. But we’ll never know what her intentions were because she was shot to death.


Why was her girlfriend outside the car filming the incident? Seems fishy.


Who knows, though it wouldn't defend the murder committed by Jonathan Ross.


Unless the plan was to instigate and videotape a physical confrontation. Whole thing is off.


Amazing timing then. She only arrived 4 minutes before they did after dropping her kid off at school. How did she know they had finished their break and were heading back to HQ?
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Anonymous wrote:DHS announced that Jonathan Ross has a past record of hurting himself by attempting to wrestle with car driver, violating policy and escalated violence and increased risk to officer safety.

As usual, their cruelty is rivaled only by their incompetence.


Super high risk individual, sounds like they should subpoena his psyche evaluation and see if he should have been out there in the first place.


Who do you think these ice workers are?! People drawn in by the signing bonus who couldn’t qualify to be real police or military for mental or criminal reasons
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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone



You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.


DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.


+1

If that were me, I would have immediately put my hands up to show that I was no threat. Because I respect law enforcement.


I cannot get over how utterly lacking in humanity these ICE apologists are. They shot her in the head three times. She did not NOTHING to make shooting her three times in the head a reasonable response. Shut up with “she should have done this or that”. The ICE agent shot her in the head three times! Please spend some time searching for your soul.


I believe in personal responsibility. You don’t. Tomato tomahto.

If she wasn’t an ICE agitator (all news coming out now points to this) her life wouldn’t have been at risk.

I teach my kids to make smart choices. Don’t put yourself in harms way because “men shouldn’t rape!” “People shouldn’t kill”. “People shouldn’t steal!” Newsflash - they do and they will.


That’s nice, but he still murdered her and should stand trial and be judged by a jury.



I agree with you. He should go to trial.

But let’s not pretend she didn’t insert herself into a situation where she didn’t belong. A little bit of common sense goes a long way.


This is the part I struggle with : you claim she was inserting herself in a situation- but we don’t know when ice will show up and close down a street, they took away our ice block app to show what areas to avoid, so how is one to know when not to “insert” themselves into a situation?


PP is huffing serious copium. People find it easier to blame the victim than accept that if ICE can shoot other white people with no consequences, they can also shoot THEM with no consequences.

Obviously minorities already knew this but it is a serious wake up call for some in this country. And most would prefer to just keep deep throating boot.
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This appears to be the body cam from Ross. Note I said "appears".

I am 61 years old and not the heroic type. I can say that had I been in his shoes I would NOT have been in fear of my life or the lives of others.

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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be the body cam from Ross. Note I said "appears".

I am 61 years old and not the heroic type. I can say that had I been in his shoes I would NOT have been in fear of my life or the lives of others.



She did hit him, that video seems to show. That also shows how fast this tragic situation happened.

I’m not seeing a prosecutable offense here.
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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be the body cam from Ross. Note I said "appears".

I am 61 years old and not the heroic type. I can say that had I been in his shoes I would NOT have been in fear of my life or the lives of others.



The women confronting the officer here seem truly unhinged.
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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be the body cam from Ross. Note I said "appears".

I am 61 years old and not the heroic type. I can say that had I been in his shoes I would NOT have been in fear of my life or the lives of others.



The women confronting the officer here seem truly unhinged.


Agree. Full-on nutters!
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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be the body cam from Ross. Note I said "appears".

I am 61 years old and not the heroic type. I can say that had I been in his shoes I would NOT have been in fear of my life or the lives of others.



This will be the video which exonerates Ross.
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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone



You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.


DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.


+1 She was not just on a milk run. She was there as an active protestor.


Were you going to make a point? When did it become legal to murder protestors?

PP’s point is that her skirt was too short and she had a couple of drinks at the party.


Actually I think PP’s point was don’t put yourself in dangerous situations.

I am a huge proponent of personal responsibility. Why in hell would you engage with men with guns? That is NEVER a good idea. Especially if one of them is trigger happy.

I also teach my kids to be aware of their surroundings, never accept a drink from someone when you didn’t watch them pour it, don’t walk home alone at night, lock your car doors, etc. It’s basic common sense.

The only person responsible for keeping you safe is you.
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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be the body cam from Ross. Note I said "appears".

I am 61 years old and not the heroic type. I can say that had I been in his shoes I would NOT have been in fear of my life or the lives of others.



She did hit him, that video seems to show. That also shows how fast this tragic situation happened.

I’m not seeing a prosecutable offense here.


Whether or not she hit him at a low speed is irrelevant. He had already shot. And it is irrelevant as to whether he had a reasonable fear for his life.

Why was he standing in front of the car if it was such a scary situation?
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Anonymous wrote:No one here is wishing that she were killed. You're welcome to call it victim blaming when people choose to take chances with folks with guns, regardless of who they are. It's very naive to think otherwise.


There are absolutely many posts saying she deserved death (along with other white liberal women). Just because Jeff is deleting them doesn’t mean they didn’t exist.
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Anonymous wrote:This appears to be the body cam from Ross. Note I said "appears".

I am 61 years old and not the heroic type. I can say that had I been in his shoes I would NOT have been in fear of my life or the lives of others.



She did hit him, that video seems to show. That also shows how fast this tragic situation happened.

I’m not seeing a prosecutable offense here.


Whether or not she hit him at a low speed is irrelevant. He had already shot. And it is irrelevant as to whether he had a reasonable fear for his life.

Why was he standing in front of the car if it was such a scary situation?


Not only was he standing in front of the vehicle but he was also on his phone. So in font of a vehicle and distracted.
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Anonymous wrote:There seems to be a nice video that gives a view of the front of the car. Sorry if this is old news.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/08/us/video/minnesota-shooting-ice-video-before-shooting-digvid

Why does he step in front of the car?? And why not get out of the way when she backs up, clearly intending to drive off?

The onus is ALWAYS on the driver in the U.S. in general and the law is on the books in Minnesota. He, on foot, can walk anywhere he wants, even stand in the middle of the street and motorists must yield. You cannot use a vehicle as a weapon to harm a human body, even if you’re upset/overwhelmed or feel righteously justified. If there is a physical confrontation or contact, the driver has very little, if any, defense. And, this is inconvenient for those who want to ignore it, as a federal agent, he has the right to move about the scene and order/make interlopers leave. Even if he says so “rudely”, as someone earlier whined. Even if “legal observers” don’t like his job or the agency he serves.


They told her to move, she moved.


The opportunity for her to safely move her car had passed. She failed to move it when she could safely do so. Once officers got out, approached her car, at were literally touching her car telling her to get out- multiple officers right next to her car- she could no longer safely maneuver her car and should have gotten out. I don’t even back out of parking spot if someone is within several feet of my car- for fear of accidentally hitting someone



You know what?

I hope ICE suddenly surrounds you as you're driving through your neighborhood. I hope they box you in with their big SUVs. I hope they scream at you from all directions with conflicting orders. I earnestly hope they pull out their guns and point them at your head.

Come back and tell us how it went and how you felt. Because you are gaslighting like crazy and you think you're so clever.

Karma.


DP. I think we can all agree that, in that situation, it would be better to put the car in park, put up your hands and follow the directions of the approaching officer, over going from reverse to drive and applying the accelerator as an officer is trying to open the driver’s door.

Like, that’s just common sense. Right?

Of course the ICE officer should not have shot her. Of course they are awful. And of course, we don’t act perfectly - especially in chaotic situations where we might panic.

But come on…. Let’s not let this administration cause us to lose sight of rational thought.


+1 She was not just on a milk run. She was there as an active protestor.


Were you going to make a point? When did it become legal to murder protestors?

PP’s point is that her skirt was too short and she had a couple of drinks at the party.


Actually I think PP’s point was don’t put yourself in dangerous situations.

I am a huge proponent of personal responsibility. Why in hell would you engage with men with guns? That is NEVER a good idea. Especially if one of them is trigger happy.

I also teach my kids to be aware of their surroundings, never accept a drink from someone when you didn’t watch them pour it, don’t walk home alone at night, lock your car doors, etc. It’s basic common sense.

The only person responsible for keeping you safe is you.


Men with guns engaged with HER you dipshit.
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