King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

[Anonymous]

This thread has gotten ridiculous. People without any decision making authority arguing and insulting each other personally.

Meanwhile, we have no updates from FCPS about what they are planning to do. It seems all the energy here is better redirected to contacting the school board and urging them to figure out their plans and communicate with the public. https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/leadership/school-board/school-board-members.

[Anonymous]

Agree, but people are sticking their heads in the sand if they think there won’t be ripple effects from the KAA acquisition. Other projects will be deferred, kids will get moved to KAA, and kids will get moved to at least one school sending kids to KAA. Shouldn’t the School Board be sharing their thinking or at least a timeline beyond “potentially fall 2026”?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many Bull Run families who live much closer to CVHS than Westfield. So by your standards, they should not be moved.

There are families zoned to CHS who live closer to Westfield. There are families zoned to Langley who live much closer to Herndon. There are families zoned to Oakton who live much closer to like three other schools. There are families zoned to Robinson who live much closer to CVHS. There are people zoned to SLHS who live closer to HHS. etc etc etc etc.

Are you going to upend the boundaries across the entire county based solely on distance? Interesting approach that is sure to be very popular.

No. But, it is desirable. A lot of people being bused to Oakton used to live in Chantilly boundary--and most did not want to move to Oakton because of the distance. Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly, for example. It's far and away the closest and they would still be there if there were room.

But, Bull Run is mostly equidistant. And, there is a neighborhood right next door to CVHS.

It is one thing if there is only a mile difference. But, when the distance rises to the Willow Springs and the Crossfield neighborhoods that go to Oakton, the bus expense enters in. (And, yes, the Langley people, too. Eventually, they won't have a choice because of Tyson's expansion.)

When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly? 🤔

I grew up in Franklin Farm. My oldest sister graduated from Oakton in 1988. My next sister graduated from Oakton in 1993. I graduated from Oakton in 1996. My younger brother graduated from Oakton in 2000.

My parents had kids at Oakton almost non-stop from 1984-2000, and their former house is still in the Oakton district.

The only year Franklin Farm existed and I can't guarantee that it was zoned to Oakton is 1983-1984, but it seems highly unlikely that the school assignment got changed one year after rhe first houses in the neighborhood were built.

How could you have grown up in Franklin Farm and be oblivious to the fact that all the homes west of the parkway go to Chantilly? It’s all the kids who go to Oal Hill for ES.

I am aware of that, and I believe my response quite clearly was referring to the poat that said "Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly," which implies that the PP was also discussing the section that is not zoned to Chantilly.

Critical thinking. Try it.

Try writing clearly. Your first sentence was “When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly?” All you needed for clarity was two little words — “all of” right before “Franklin”. It’s ok, I help people write more clearly as part of my job. It’s a skill that can be learned if you work on it.

WOW What a nasty, nasty little person you are. I bet the people you work with just HAAAATE you.

Sorry you can dish it out, but you can’t take it. I am very nice until stupid people on here try to make their snarky little comments.

News flash to all of you: the school board does not give one single sh*t what any of us want. They will do what they see fit and move on with their business while you all have your tantrums here and on Facebook. But keep blathering on if it makes you feel better.

Oh sweetie, we knew that already, people just like to post here for fun. Did you think everyone was super serious thinking their predictions are the one truth? No, sweetie, we're just having some fun. It's okay, now you know.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many Bull Run families who live much closer to CVHS than Westfield. So by your standards, they should not be moved.

There are families zoned to CHS who live closer to Westfield. There are families zoned to Langley who live much closer to Herndon. There are families zoned to Oakton who live much closer to like three other schools. There are families zoned to Robinson who live much closer to CVHS. There are people zoned to SLHS who live closer to HHS. etc etc etc etc.

Are you going to upend the boundaries across the entire county based solely on distance? Interesting approach that is sure to be very popular.

No. But, it is desirable. A lot of people being bused to Oakton used to live in Chantilly boundary--and most did not want to move to Oakton because of the distance. Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly, for example. It's far and away the closest and they would still be there if there were room.

But, Bull Run is mostly equidistant. And, there is a neighborhood right next door to CVHS.

It is one thing if there is only a mile difference. But, when the distance rises to the Willow Springs and the Crossfield neighborhoods that go to Oakton, the bus expense enters in. (And, yes, the Langley people, too. Eventually, they won't have a choice because of Tyson's expansion.)

When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly? 🤔

I grew up in Franklin Farm. My oldest sister graduated from Oakton in 1988. My next sister graduated from Oakton in 1993. I graduated from Oakton in 1996. My younger brother graduated from Oakton in 2000.

My parents had kids at Oakton almost non-stop from 1984-2000, and their former house is still in the Oakton district.

The only year Franklin Farm existed and I can't guarantee that it was zoned to Oakton is 1983-1984, but it seems highly unlikely that the school assignment got changed one year after rhe first houses in the neighborhood were built.

How could you have grown up in Franklin Farm and be oblivious to the fact that all the homes west of the parkway go to Chantilly? It’s all the kids who go to Oal Hill for ES.

I am aware of that, and I believe my response quite clearly was referring to the poat that said "Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly," which implies that the PP was also discussing the section that is not zoned to Chantilly.

Critical thinking. Try it.

Try writing clearly. Your first sentence was “When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly?” All you needed for clarity was two little words — “all of” right before “Franklin”. It’s ok, I help people write more clearly as part of my job. It’s a skill that can be learned if you work on it.

WOW What a nasty, nasty little person you are. I bet the people you work with just HAAAATE you.

Sorry you can dish it out, but you can’t take it. I am very nice until stupid people on here try to make their snarky little comments.

News flash to all of you: the school board does not give one single sh*t what any of us want. They will do what they see fit and move on with their business while you all have your tantrums here and on Facebook. But keep blathering on if it makes you feel better.

Oh sweetie, we knew that already, people just like to post here for fun. Did you think everyone was super serious thinking their predictions are the one truth? No, sweetie, we're just having some fun. It's okay, now you know.

Some people knit.
Some people nit pick.
It's mindless entertainment. High school debate wannabees. Self included.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are many Bull Run families who live much closer to CVHS than Westfield. So by your standards, they should not be moved.

There are families zoned to CHS who live closer to Westfield. There are families zoned to Langley who live much closer to Herndon. There are families zoned to Oakton who live much closer to like three other schools. There are families zoned to Robinson who live much closer to CVHS. There are people zoned to SLHS who live closer to HHS. etc etc etc etc.

Are you going to upend the boundaries across the entire county based solely on distance? Interesting approach that is sure to be very popular.

No. But, it is desirable. A lot of people being bused to Oakton used to live in Chantilly boundary--and most did not want to move to Oakton because of the distance. Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly, for example. It's far and away the closest and they would still be there if there were room.

But, Bull Run is mostly equidistant. And, there is a neighborhood right next door to CVHS.

It is one thing if there is only a mile difference. But, when the distance rises to the Willow Springs and the Crossfield neighborhoods that go to Oakton, the bus expense enters in. (And, yes, the Langley people, too. Eventually, they won't have a choice because of Tyson's expansion.)

When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly? 🤔

I grew up in Franklin Farm. My oldest sister graduated from Oakton in 1988. My next sister graduated from Oakton in 1993. I graduated from Oakton in 1996. My younger brother graduated from Oakton in 2000.

My parents had kids at Oakton almost non-stop from 1984-2000, and their former house is still in the Oakton district.

The only year Franklin Farm existed and I can't guarantee that it was zoned to Oakton is 1983-1984, but it seems highly unlikely that the school assignment got changed one year after rhe first houses in the neighborhood were built.

How could you have grown up in Franklin Farm and be oblivious to the fact that all the homes west of the parkway go to Chantilly? It’s all the kids who go to Oal Hill for ES.

I am aware of that, and I believe my response quite clearly was referring to the poat that said "Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly," which implies that the PP was also discussing the section that is not zoned to Chantilly.

Critical thinking. Try it.

Try writing clearly. Your first sentence was “When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly?” All you needed for clarity was two little words — “all of” right before “Franklin”. It’s ok, I help people write more clearly as part of my job. It’s a skill that can be learned if you work on it.

WOW What a nasty, nasty little person you are. I bet the people you work with just HAAAATE you.

Sorry you can dish it out, but you can’t take it. I am very nice until stupid people on here try to make their snarky little comments.

News flash to all of you: the school board does not give one single sh*t what any of us want. They will do what they see fit and move on with their business while you all have your tantrums here and on Facebook. But keep blathering on if it makes you feel better.

Oh sweetie, we knew that already, people just like to post here for fun. Did you think everyone was super serious thinking their predictions are the one truth? No, sweetie, we're just having some fun. It's okay, now you know.

You sound like an old lady using sweetie. I am sad for you that this is your idea of fun. I guess that’s what happens when no one in real life wants to spend time with you.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many Bull Run families who live much closer to CVHS than Westfield. So by your standards, they should not be moved.

There are families zoned to CHS who live closer to Westfield. There are families zoned to Langley who live much closer to Herndon. There are families zoned to Oakton who live much closer to like three other schools. There are families zoned to Robinson who live much closer to CVHS. There are people zoned to SLHS who live closer to HHS. etc etc etc etc.

Are you going to upend the boundaries across the entire county based solely on distance? Interesting approach that is sure to be very popular.

No. But, it is desirable. A lot of people being bused to Oakton used to live in Chantilly boundary--and most did not want to move to Oakton because of the distance. Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly, for example. It's far and away the closest and they would still be there if there were room.

But, Bull Run is mostly equidistant. And, there is a neighborhood right next door to CVHS.

It is one thing if there is only a mile difference. But, when the distance rises to the Willow Springs and the Crossfield neighborhoods that go to Oakton, the bus expense enters in. (And, yes, the Langley people, too. Eventually, they won't have a choice because of Tyson's expansion.)

When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly? 🤔

I grew up in Franklin Farm. My oldest sister graduated from Oakton in 1988. My next sister graduated from Oakton in 1993. I graduated from Oakton in 1996. My younger brother graduated from Oakton in 2000.

My parents had kids at Oakton almost non-stop from 1984-2000, and their former house is still in the Oakton district.

The only year Franklin Farm existed and I can't guarantee that it was zoned to Oakton is 1983-1984, but it seems highly unlikely that the school assignment got changed one year after rhe first houses in the neighborhood were built.

How could you have grown up in Franklin Farm and be oblivious to the fact that all the homes west of the parkway go to Chantilly? It’s all the kids who go to Oal Hill for ES.

I am aware of that, and I believe my response quite clearly was referring to the poat that said "Franklin Farm was initially Chantilly," which implies that the PP was also discussing the section that is not zoned to Chantilly.

Critical thinking. Try it.

Try writing clearly. Your first sentence was “When was Franklin Farm zoned to Chantilly?” All you needed for clarity was two little words — “all of” right before “Franklin”. It’s ok, I help people write more clearly as part of my job. It’s a skill that can be learned if you work on it.

WOW What a nasty, nasty little person you are. I bet the people you work with just HAAAATE you.

Sorry you can dish it out, but you can’t take it. I am very nice until stupid people on here try to make their snarky little comments.

News flash to all of you: the school board does not give one single sh*t what any of us want. They will do what they see fit and move on with their business while you all have your tantrums here and on Facebook. But keep blathering on if it makes you feel better.

Oh sweetie, we knew that already, people just like to post here for fun. Did you think everyone was super serious thinking their predictions are the one truth? No, sweetie, we're just having some fun. It's okay, now you know.

You sound like an old lady using sweetie. I am sad for you that this is your idea of fun. I guess that’s what happens when no one in real life wants to spend time with you.

It is an opportunity to express opinions and ideas that others may not like. I do think it is interesting to see how people react. For example, there was someone on here a few days ago who kept insisting that KAA become an academy. Was it a troll or someone with an agenda?
People bring up issues and defend there own wishes.

But, I live near KAA, but would have heard nothing about it closing for months had it not been for this thread.

And, then, I would have known nothing about FCPS purchase of KAA had it not been for DCUM. It certainly has not had much press.

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17:35 cont.

It is sad when your news comes from an anonymous forum. WAPO needs to step up. I read it daily. Almost nothing about FCPS. Metro "section" is now two pages--and most of it is obituaries--and the big ones are seldom local.

[Anonymous]

The decline in the Post metro and schools reporting has been pitiful. They used to actually have local reporters covering local issues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

If the most important factor for boundaries is driving distance and not any other consideration? I was not aware that distance was FCPS's number one priority. Someone better tell those Herndon families zoned to Langley.

The obsession is real ^^. Get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

JFC, you people are frighteningly unwell. I assure you, no one from Langley is trying to scuttle the new school. But it absolutely figures you'd use them as your scapegoat if things don't go your way - when have you ever not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

It makes sense to YOU, on paper. But Bull Run families likely want to stay at CVHS and WS families likely want to stay at FHS. People overwhelmingly want to stay at their current high schools, across the whole county.

I think the KAA plan is most likely to succeed if there are the fewest disruptions and moves in the area. No point moving kids here and there unnecessarily, all that does is create more opposition frankly.

I agree. A bunch of Karens sitting in their houses in McLean suggesting moving kids---not their kids, other people's kids--- around like chess pieces to make the map pretty. No need for unnecessary disruptions. Fill KAA up to 1800 or so in a way that makes sense, and then see who is left everywhere else.

You mean, the way all of you Karens who live elsewhere were plotting, planning, and scheming to send other people's kids to different high schools before the boundary decisions came out? Like that? And now it seems it's YOUR kids who will be moving. Oops! There's that karma again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they leave it alone and let new construction backfill.

This is an interesting suggestion and definitely the least controversial move.

Do we know how much all that new construction is expected to yield as far as students? There are a lot of new developments all multifamily.

there is no way they move 3 schools out of westfield and don’t move any in. they need relief at centreville and chantilly. KAA was bought to relieve overcrowding in western fairfax. if there aren’t big changes to chantilly and centreville then what’s the point of KAA

Centreville is not that much over capacity with numbers projected to decline.

No one wants big changes. FCPS can fill
KAA adequately and still create as few disruptions as possible for the kids currently at the surrounding schools.

This is the best approach.

Willow Springs is less than 3 miles from Centreville High. Much of the neighborhood is closer.
It is more than 7 miles to Fairfax. With traffic, it is likely 3 times the ride in time.

It makes sense to move Bull Run to Westfield and Willow Spring to Centreville.

It makes sense to YOU, on paper. But Bull Run families likely want to stay at CVHS and WS families likely want to stay at FHS. People overwhelmingly want to stay at their current high schools, across the whole county.

I think the KAA plan is most likely to succeed if there are the fewest disruptions and moves in the area. No point moving kids here and there unnecessarily, all that does is create more opposition frankly.

I agree. A bunch of Karens sitting in their houses in McLean suggesting moving kids---not their kids, other people's kids--- around like chess pieces to make the map pretty. No need for unnecessary disruptions. Fill KAA up to 1800 or so in a way that makes sense, and then see who is left everywhere else.

The “Karens sitting in their houses in McLean” are going to stay at Langley HS or McLean HS no matter what happens with KAA. Try again.

Exactly. Just astounding that those squabbling here about KAA continue to drag Langley families into their fights. We have nothing to do with the KAA school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

JFC, you people are frighteningly unwell. I assure you, no one from Langley is trying to scuttle the new school. But it absolutely figures you'd use them as your scapegoat if things don't go your way - when have you ever not?

Oh. There was a Langley poster on Nextdoor who came out strongly against the purchase of KAA. It was all about the "process." No matter that if the normal "process" (whatever that is) was followed, that the purchase would not have succeeded.
She wrote essays daily for a week or so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the Langley people are so worried they might get moved that they are on here pretending to be from other places trying to scuttle the deal anyway they can. They figured out that Westfield is likely going to come out with a raw deal and are trying to stir up the Westfield and Chantilly people to be against it.

JFC, you people are frighteningly unwell. I assure you, no one from Langley is trying to scuttle the new school. But it absolutely figures you'd use them as your scapegoat if things don't go your way - when have you ever not?

Oh. There was a Langley poster on Nextdoor who came out strongly against the purchase of KAA. It was all about the "process." No matter that if the normal "process" (whatever that is) was followed, that the purchase would not have succeeded.
She wrote essays daily for a week or so.

Yes, that was one person. One. Not an entire community or even a handful of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:17:35 cont.

It is sad when your news comes from an anonymous forum. WAPO needs to step up. I read it daily. Almost nothing about FCPS. Metro "section" is now two pages--and most of it is obituaries--and the big ones are seldom local.

Most of the Metro staff has been laid off. Bezos’ vision is for it to be less of a local paper of record and more of an international paper of significance like the UK Guardian or Financial Times.