Does DCPS care? New model shows even with masks, 40% of students will still be infected with Delta

[Anonymous]

well how do you encourage parents to get vaccinated? I guess making them TOTALLY FREAKED about kids being hospitalized is one way. It seems like there would be a better way that doesn't involve hospitalizing kids.

[Anonymous]

Then sign up for an online charter school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:COVID cases in children up 85% in the last week.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-rise-children-study-statistics-b1897711.html

If this is supposed to be an indication of delta, then pertinently the hospitalization rate in that same period hasn't changed. Still overall about ~1% of cases.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

So neither of these things is delta or both are.

Let me amend my statement: How long would be expect a lag from case identification to hospital, for kids? A week?

The AAP report will give you decent info on cases, but only gets hospitalization data from 23 states + NYC. And the states not reporting of course include the ones currently hardest hit with the big spikes in pediatric cases and pediatric hospitalizations (Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas, etc).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:COVID cases in children up 85% in the last week.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-rise-children-study-statistics-b1897711.html

See? They need to be in school! Clearly summer vacation is contributing to the spike.

If you think we’ll be better off in a congregate setting you are truly delusional.

do u think most kids stay at home alone when they are not at school

They certainly are not sitting unmasked indoors with 30 other kids which is exactly what they will be doing at school.

But they ARE getting it from (probably) family right now. That's always been true that transmission at home is more prevalent than transmission in schools. It would seem like keeping kids at home might even lead to MORE spread.

Really, the focus should be on getting parents vaccinated, if we are very concerned about kids' covid cases.

I feel like that was explored earlier in the pandemic -- whether community transmission would be lower if kids were in school versus kept out of school. That's because people can't just keep their kids at home by themselves; the kids are in congregant childcare settings, or are out at each others' houses, or at their own jobs. So the number of contacts of each kid is potentially higher than it would have been had they been in school, overall.

Something apparently happened that got this deleted, and I don’t know what. At any rate I had earlier posted this article from nature discussing some of the school studies regarding what the PP I talking about. I also found it a useful article for other reasons.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01826-x

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:COVID cases in children up 85% in the last week.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-rise-children-study-statistics-b1897711.html

If this is supposed to be an indication of delta, then pertinently the hospitalization rate in that same period hasn't changed. Still overall about ~1% of cases.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

So neither of these things is delta or both are.

Let me amend my statement: How long would be expect a lag from case identification to hospital, for kids? A week?

The AAP report will give you decent info on cases, but only gets hospitalization data from 23 states + NYC. And the states not reporting of course include the ones currently hardest hit with the big spikes in pediatric cases and pediatric hospitalizations (Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas, etc).

That’s a good point. Is the increase in cases purely confined to the states on which we don’t have hospital data? I can’t imagine why it would be.

But if we are seeing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:COVID cases in children up 85% in the last week.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-rise-children-study-statistics-b1897711.html

If this is supposed to be an indication of delta, then pertinently the hospitalization rate in that same period hasn't changed. Still overall about ~1% of cases.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

So neither of these things is delta or both are.

Let me amend my statement: How long would be expect a lag from case identification to hospital, for kids? A week?

The AAP report will give you decent info on cases, but only gets hospitalization data from 23 states + NYC. And the states not reporting of course include the ones currently hardest hit with the big spikes in pediatric cases and pediatric hospitalizations (Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas, etc).

That’s a good point. Is the increase in cases purely confined to the states on which we don’t have hospital data? I can’t imagine why it would be.

But if we are seeing

Oops mucky thumbs.

If we are seeing increases in cases in places other than those specific states, then we’d also be seeing increases in hospital admissions from those states, yes? I’m not at a computer otherwise i would look.

[Anonymous]

Meaning if delta was more virulent.

[Anonymous]

Have you guys seen this?

Large UK study finds that under 18s "face an “extremely low” risk of illness and death from Covid-19 and have no need to shield from the virus"

They note that there was a jump in cases, but "about a 1-in-50,000 chance of being admitted to intensive care."

“There’s a general feeling among pediatricians that probably too many children were shielded in the first elements of the pandemic and that there’s probably very few children that need to shield according to these data,” Russell Viner, a professor of child and adolescent health at University College London, said at the briefing."

They note that little has changed with the advent of delta.

These articles aren't yet peer-reviewed, but that represents the fact that they're at the forefront of COVID research.

I find this reassuring.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-08/very-few-kids-need-to-shield-from-covid-large-u-k-study-finds?fbclid=IwAR38Xwyldx0G4FzuJybildkZm34D_lfLM8QfZi0zhhafuvH6OsdC4HxKqvQ

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you guys seen this?

Large UK study finds that under 18s "face an “extremely low” risk of illness and death from Covid-19 and have no need to shield from the virus"

They note that there was a jump in cases, but "about a 1-in-50,000 chance of being admitted to intensive care."

“There’s a general feeling among pediatricians that probably too many children were shielded in the first elements of the pandemic and that there’s probably very few children that need to shield according to these data,” Russell Viner, a professor of child and adolescent health at University College London, said at the briefing."

They note that little has changed with the advent of delta.

These articles aren't yet peer-reviewed, but that represents the fact that they're at the forefront of COVID research.

I find this reassuring.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-07-08/very-few-kids-need-to-shield-from-covid-large-u-k-study-finds?fbclid=IwAR38Xwyldx0G4FzuJybildkZm34D_lfLM8QfZi0zhhafuvH6OsdC4HxKqvQ

Thank you for posting this.

[Anonymous]

Ugh. I do wonder -- and there is nothing to do about it -- if they would have been best off getting the original variant in April or something.

Initially, when we made it to June without Covid, I felt like we'd escaped something. Now, I feel like it's not if but when (especially with the news that it is "highly likely sometime this school year" there will be a vaccine).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ugh. I do wonder -- and there is nothing to do about it -- if they would have been best off getting the original variant in April or something.

Initially, when we made it to June without Covid, I felt like we'd escaped something. Now, I feel like it's not if but when (especially with the news that it is "highly likely sometime this school year" there will be a vaccine).

You didn't do anything wrong. You made the best decision with the information that was available. Yes, it's more likely now, but not any more virulent. You're doing the best you can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:COVID cases in children up 85% in the last week.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/covid-rise-children-study-statistics-b1897711.html

If this is supposed to be an indication of delta, then pertinently the hospitalization rate in that same period hasn't changed. Still overall about ~1% of cases.

https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/children-and-covid-19-state-level-data-report/

So neither of these things is delta or both are.

Let me amend my statement: How long would be expect a lag from case identification to hospital, for kids? A week?

The AAP report will give you decent info on cases, but only gets hospitalization data from 23 states + NYC. And the states not reporting of course include the ones currently hardest hit with the big spikes in pediatric cases and pediatric hospitalizations (Florida, Louisiana, Alabama, Arkansas, Missouri, Texas, etc).

That’s a good point. Is the increase in cases purely confined to the states on which we don’t have hospital data? I can’t imagine why it would be.

But if we are seeing

Oops mucky thumbs.

If we are seeing increases in cases in places other than those specific states, then we’d also be seeing increases in hospital admissions from those states, yes? I’m not at a computer otherwise i would look.

Yes, the next two weeks will be very telling and I suspect that a lot of these snarky posters will be eating their words. I hope I am wrong, for the sake of these children who are getting sick.

[Anonymous]

I read it as well. Very useful.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Swann’s research shows that even with universal masks, 40% of elementary students will be infected with Delta IN THREE MONTHS.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-31/what-the-delta-variant-development-means-for-unvaccinated-kids

What I am seeing in this forum is parents refusing to test with their kid has “just a cold,” refusing asymptomatic testing, lying about travel so they don’t have to quarantine, etc. There is no distancing, no plan to upgrade ventilation, no mandatory teacher vaccinations, etc.

Has DCPS just given up?

Are you mad at parents or are you mad at DCPS? Or both? It seems like you are casting stones at both.

It looks to me like OP is lamenting the silence from DCPS on some necessary mitigation measures, and the statements of parents on this board opposing or even promising to obstruct some necessary mitigation measures.

I'm not sure why everyone keeps repeating that there is "silence" from DCPS about mitigation measures. DCPS has a whole range of mitigation it did last year and will continue to do this year.

https://dcpsreopenstrong.com/chancellor/school-health-safety-update/

Those are not mitigation efforts, what about randoms testing and temperature checks?

Enhanced cleaning will not happen, it didn’t even happen last school year with only 10 of us (teacher wise) in the building….
That social distancing is a lie because that can’t happen. So the only protocol they really have is the mask!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Swann’s research shows that even with universal masks, 40% of elementary students will be infected with Delta IN THREE MONTHS.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-31/what-the-delta-variant-development-means-for-unvaccinated-kids

What I am seeing in this forum is parents refusing to test with their kid has “just a cold,” refusing asymptomatic testing, lying about travel so they don’t have to quarantine, etc. There is no distancing, no plan to upgrade ventilation, no mandatory teacher vaccinations, etc.

Has DCPS just given up?

Are you mad at parents or are you mad at DCPS? Or both? It seems like you are casting stones at both.

It looks to me like OP is lamenting the silence from DCPS on some necessary mitigation measures, and the statements of parents on this board opposing or even promising to obstruct some necessary mitigation measures.

I'm not sure why everyone keeps repeating that there is "silence" from DCPS about mitigation measures. DCPS has a whole range of mitigation it did last year and will continue to do this year.

https://dcpsreopenstrong.com/chancellor/school-health-safety-update/

Those are not mitigation efforts, what about randoms testing and temperature checks?

Enhanced cleaning will not happen, it didn’t even happen last school year with only 10 of us (teacher wise) in the building….
That social distancing is a lie because that can’t happen. So the only protocol they really have is the mask!

Masks and ventilation are the only ones really needed.