How do Americans view universities abroad such as McGill, St Andrews, or similar?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McGill has long had a great reputation in my industry. My dc decided to go there and I was happy… and no, I don’t think it’s the Harvard of Canada, blah blah. But I do think it is a rigorous school where students work hard for their grades, and are not entitled. I can’t say that about some of the more elite US schools.

What is your field?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it is so interesting that uninformed Americans are denigrating St Andrews as a place for rich American kids when the tuition (even including airfare) is less than University of MD. We are considering it for our high stats kid because it is a bargain - great school for less than you pay here.

Uh, wut? DCUM has far too much MissInformation!
2024-2025 GBP Sterling US Dollars
Tuition fees (actual tuition fees table) 27,450 37,058
Catered residence fees or rent, utilities, food 11,328 15,293
Travel - based on two trips per year 2,000 2,700
Computer equipment, books, etc. 1,200 1,620
Personal, living expenses (37 weeks) 3,700 4,995
Total £45,678 $61,666

UMD
Undergraduate State of Maryland Resident

On-Campus Costs (Estimated)

Direct Costs

Annual tuition
$10,086
Mandatory fees
$1,722
On-campus housing, cable & phone
$9,562
Food plan (average)
$6,396
Other Estimated Costs

Books and supplies4
$1,250
Transportation4
$1,514
Personal costs4
$1,200
Total
$31,730

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is so interesting that uninformed Americans are denigrating St Andrews as a place for rich American kids when the tuition (even including airfare) is less than University of MD. We are considering it for our high stats kid because it is a bargain - great school for less than you pay here.

Uh, wut? DCUM has far too much MissInformation!
2024-2025 GBP Sterling US Dollars
Tuition fees (actual tuition fees table) 27,450 37,058
Catered residence fees or rent, utilities, food 11,328 15,293
Travel - based on two trips per year 2,000 2,700
Computer equipment, books, etc. 1,200 1,620
Personal, living expenses (37 weeks) 3,700 4,995
Total £45,678 $61,666

UMD
Undergraduate State of Maryland Resident

On-Campus Costs (Estimated)

Direct Costs

Annual tuition
$10,086
Mandatory fees
$1,722
On-campus housing, cable & phone
$9,562
Food plan (average)
$6,396
Other Estimated Costs

Books and supplies4
$1,250
Transportation4
$1,514
Personal costs4
$1,200
Total
$31,730

For in state sure….. can never compare anything to instate.
OOS UMD is $41k just tuition.

As discussed in the other thread you can do St Andrews for $50k (dollars) including room and board.

From an OOS perspective, Sta all the away. For instate, sure big state Us will always have a cost advantage.
UMD

[Anonymous]

If choices kid has are McGill, BU, Barnard, Skidmore is there a clear choice?

[Anonymous]

If choices kid has are McGill, BU, Barnard, Skidmore is there a clear choice?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
If choices kid has are McGill, BU, Barnard, Skidmore is there a clear choice?

If you are talking about just name and reputation McGill although with special circumstances I can see Bernard being as prestigious esp if you call Bernard Columbia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
If choices kid has are McGill, BU, Barnard, Skidmore is there a clear choice?

Why are we even talking about this. This is NOT what the OP asked…..

[Anonymous]

My husband works for a large F500 tech company. His degree is from Georgetown and he's working for someone who has her degree from McGill. He knows a few others across other companies who are senior with McGill degrees and they are very well regarded.

[Anonymous]

Thank you! Any more thoughts about McGill vs Barnard? Like, would a student be making a mistake to choose McGill over Barnard? Or VisaVersa? Any other thoughts appreciated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
If choices kid has are McGill, BU, Barnard, Skidmore is there a clear choice?

Why are we even talking about this. This is NOT what the OP asked…..

I’m assuming this PP has her own question.

I’m always a little shocked at the poor critical thinking and reading comprehension skills of so many posters on this board. … absolutely obsessing over college brands… the irony

[Anonymous]

Would be interest in thoughts ans experiences too as we are choosing between McGill & Barnard as well.

[Anonymous]

It's naive to think that any foreign university, apart from Oxbridge, will likely resonate strongly with the average U.S. employer, no matter how good those schools may be. They just generally lack name recognition here, and that is very likely to result in a competitive disadvantage when applying for jobs alongside candidates from schools which are better known in the U.S. Yes, some employers may be familiar with some foreign schools, and may even think highly of them, but I strongly suspect that will be a minority position.

Caveat emptor.

[Anonymous]

Other thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's naive to think that any foreign university, apart from Oxbridge, will likely resonate strongly with the average U.S. employer, no matter how good those schools may be. They just generally lack name recognition here, and that is very likely to result in a competitive disadvantage when applying for jobs alongside candidates from schools which are better known in the U.S. Yes, some employers may be familiar with some foreign schools, and may even think highly of them, but I strongly suspect that will be a minority position.

Caveat emptor.

I don’t necessarily think that’s accurate. There are a few schools that pretty much every educated person in urban areas will know, and certainly every HR department. McGill is one of them- over UT for some reason even though any Canadian will tell you UT is a harder admit. McGill has stronger name recognition than lots of strong SLAC and other US schools as well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would be interest in thoughts ans experiences too as we are choosing between McGill & Barnard as well.

McGill will be more rigorous/harder but both are great