How do Americans view universities abroad such as McGill, St Andrews, or similar?

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Anonymous wrote:Vast majority of Americans will have never heard of St Andrews. McGill is familiar and would be viewed as perhaps similar prestige as a Michigan or UCLA or UVA.

McGill is in the top 3 Canadian colleges. That is way beyond UVA/UCLA & UMich

Tell me you’re joking.

Nog PP but I know Canadian schools -they must be joking

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is so interesting that uninformed Americans are denigrating St Andrews as a place for rich American kids when the tuition (even including airfare) is less than University of MD. We are considering it for our high stats kid because it is a bargain - great school for less than you pay here.

Uh, uninformed Americans? The most pointed critiques of the school are coming from Brits themselves. The simultaneous combination of intense pretentiousness and mediocrity at St Andrews and among its boosters is a huge turnoff.

I truly have no dog in this fight other than curiosity because my DC attends another UK uni but the various league tables all rank St Andrews very highly. Sometimes prestige is a lagging indicator. Who knows?!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankings_of_universities_in_the_United_Kingdom

and yet no. 4, LSE is known as “Let’s See Europe” by my law school friends who couldn’t get into a T14 the first time around so wanted another shot or two at the LSAT

+1. I know a lot of kids who used “Let’s See Europe” while figuring out how to get into law school.

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McGill boosters on here too? Seriously claiming because it’s a top university in Canada it’s somehow sooo much better than everywhere else? It should be lucky to even be grouped in with the likes of Michigan and UNC and UCLA.

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Most Americans are not going to have much knowledge of foreign universities. Many will not have much familiarity with U.S. universities beyond athletics and a few that stand out for name brand like Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:McGill boosters on here too? Seriously claiming because it’s a top university in Canada it’s somehow sooo much better than everywhere else? It should be lucky to even be grouped in with the likes of Michigan and UNC and UCLA.

go back to the 1980s. Because these colleges are American doesn't automatically make them superior, you really need to get your head out of your ass and catch up with the rest of the world.

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Anonymous wrote:Vast majority of Americans will have never heard of St Andrews. McGill is familiar and would be viewed as perhaps similar prestige as a Michigan or UCLA or UVA.

McGill is in the top 3 Canadian colleges. That is way beyond UVA/UCLA & UMich

You know more people live in California than in Canada, right?

50% of California residents have no formal education and do not speak English.

So yeah, I know that. And more.

I think you've just shown exactly what you "know."

You say California is more important than the whole of Canada due to bodies on the ground. I ask you to look again at those bodies - a huge number of people living in poverty, not speaking English and not getting access to medical care. It's one very fuked up state.

You need to come better prepared with your examples if you are trying to seriously denigrate a prestigious Canadian college.

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MoCo native who has always known McGill and St. Andrew's in Scotland are prestigious.

Anyone posting here who doesn't realize that isn't as worldly and cultured as you pretend to be.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Vast majority of Americans will have never heard of St Andrews. McGill is familiar and would be viewed as perhaps similar prestige as a Michigan or UCLA or UVA. [/quote]
McGill is in the [b]top 3 [/b]Canadian colleges. That is way beyond UVA/UCLA & UMich[/quote]
You know more people live in California than in Canada, right?[/quote]
50% of California residents have no formal education and do not speak English.

So yeah, I know that. And more.[/quote]
I think you've just shown exactly what you "know."[/quote]

You say California is more important than the whole of Canada due to bodies on the ground. I ask you to look again at those bodies - a huge number of people living in poverty, not speaking English and not getting access to medical care. It's one very fuked up state.

You need to come better prepared with your examples if you are trying to seriously denigrate a prestigious Canadian college.[/quote]

DP Well that PP isn’t wrong. California would have the fifth largest economy in the world if it was a standalone country….over $3T which compares favorably to Canada’s GDP of $1.6T. And I don’t think you could seriously compare the two based on their relative contributions in technology, entertainment, defense contracting, aerospace or basically anything else other than random raw materials and poutine.

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Uhh… no one’s denigrating Canada. You, however, are denigrating universities like Michigan and UCLA, some of the premier research institutions in the world, with your snooty arrogance. Please.

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Anonymous wrote:Uhh… no one’s denigrating Canada. You, however, are denigrating universities like Michigan and UCLA, some of the premier research institutions in the world, with your snooty arrogance. Please.

Ok if that makes you happy, fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Vast majority of Americans will have never heard of St Andrews. McGill is familiar and would be viewed as perhaps similar prestige as a Michigan or UCLA or UVA.

McGill is in the top 3 Canadian colleges. That is way beyond UVA/UCLA & UMich

lol. There are only 96 institutions of higher learning in Canada. The US has 5,000 plus. UVA is in the top 25 of the 5,000.

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Anonymous wrote:I earned my master's degree from LSE and find that it works well for this city and my field (policy). That said, most of my friends and family who don't work in policy had never heard of it and were very skeptical about my decision to study there. I don't regret it at all! I think I received an excellent education there and I think it has given me an edge in my career because I had an education that was international in focus. My kids are young now but I already plan to get them thinking beyond U.S.-based institutions once they're older. Universities abroad are often less expensive, you can use U.S. federal loans there, and you can find just as good an education. (Plus, many U.K.-based bachelor's programs are three years instead of four!)

And see, I don't know where or what 'LSE' is.

DP. Honestly, that's just ignorance.

Nope nope nope.

^^gotta google it to understand. Kinda like 'HYP' being a DCUM-thing. Outside the DC and northeast, people don't talk this way. In the real world, that is.

Good lord. LSE is its actual name like MIT. Not a a DCUM thing. Who didn't know that Mick Jagger went there?

Seriously, LSE is the london school of economics, LSE is an acronym widely known among the educated. And it's known for far more than mick jagger. Countless world leaders and nobel prize winners have studied there

And I still contend that most won't know that LSE stands for London School of Economics. My IL went there but noone in the family referred to it as LSE. Maybe didn't want to sound pretentious (?). And to say that everyone knows that Mick Jagger went there - are you a Brit? Because who knows that?? I love the Rolling Stones but knowing where (or IF) Mick Jagger went to college is far down the line of caring. DCUM continues in its bubble...

I know the acronym.

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Anonymous wrote:I earned my master's degree from LSE and find that it works well for this city and my field (policy). That said, most of my friends and family who don't work in policy had never heard of it and were very skeptical about my decision to study there. I don't regret it at all! I think I received an excellent education there and I think it has given me an edge in my career because I had an education that was international in focus. My kids are young now but I already plan to get them thinking beyond U.S.-based institutions once they're older. Universities abroad are often less expensive, you can use U.S. federal loans there, and you can find just as good an education. (Plus, many U.K.-based bachelor's programs are three years instead of four!)

And see, I don't know where or what 'LSE' is.

DP. Honestly, that's just ignorance.

Nope nope nope.

^^gotta google it to understand. Kinda like 'HYP' being a DCUM-thing. Outside the DC and northeast, people don't talk this way. In the real world, that is.

Good lord. LSE is its actual name like MIT. Not a a DCUM thing. Who didn't know that Mick Jagger went there?

Seriously, LSE is the london school of economics, LSE is an acronym widely known among the educated. And it's known for far more than mick jagger. Countless world leaders and nobel prize winners have studied there

And I still contend that most won't know that LSE stands for London School of Economics. My IL went there but noone in the family referred to it as LSE. Maybe didn't want to sound pretentious (?). And to say that everyone knows that Mick Jagger went there - are you a Brit? Because who knows that?? I love the Rolling Stones but knowing where (or IF) Mick Jagger went to college is far down the line of caring. DCUM continues in its bubble...

I know the acronym.

It’s not an acronym.

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Have impressions changed in the 4+ years since this was written?

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McGill has long had a great reputation in my industry. My dc decided to go there and I was happy… and no, I don’t think it’s the Harvard of Canada, blah blah. But I do think it is a rigorous school where students work hard for their grades, and are not entitled. I can’t say that about some of the more elite US schools.