WP Article on LAMB's failure to re-open

[Anonymous]

You all are funny.

You do know there are kids who speak Spanish fluently and perfectly in 3rd grade. They are called Latinos.

But there are also kids at other schools in the DCPS immersion program who speak perfect Spanish.

The kids at my DCPS school teaches maths in spanish and the kids take tests in English and are knocking it out of the park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all are funny.

You do know there are kids who speak Spanish fluently and perfectly in 3rd grade. They are called Latinos.

But there are also kids at other schools in the DCPS immersion program who speak perfect Spanish.

The kids at my DCPS school teaches maths in spanish and the kids take tests in English and are knocking it out of the park.

Oh its you again. I have no idea what your point is, but have you learned how to spell abuela yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You all are funny.

You do know there are kids who speak Spanish fluently and perfectly in 3rd grade. They are called Latinos.

But there are also kids at other schools in the DCPS immersion program who speak perfect Spanish.

The kids at my DCPS school teaches maths in spanish and the kids take tests in English and are knocking it out of the park.

You seem to have a jealousy issue, or just some sort of misplaced hatred. Because none of this follows from the prior discussion. Yes, kids at other schools speak Spanish. Neat. No one even vaguely suggested that wasn’t true.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are refusing to work, and schools are refusing to force teachers to work.

So I would rephrase this as teachers are refusing to work in person and schools are refusing to force teachers to work. Which I still have a problem with because DL is not as effective as in person learning. Just logistically speaking, kids are losing 20% of their instructional time with the Wednesday’s off. That has to lead to less learning.

Of course it leads to less learning and the teachers do not give two sh%&*

Wednesdays will no longer be off starting the 9th. Calm yourself Iago.

Teacher's care more about their own safety than your child's learning. They care about having a seat at the table.

No clue what the issue could be at charters. They literally all have top notch buildings....

Teachers don't want to go back because life is easier if you don't have to go into the office.

That is beyond untrue. Members of my family are teachers (not DCPS) and their work has doubled.

I agree, I'd rather teacher in person but I teach PS/PK sped. No masks...gas leaks at my school, and a closet sized classroom....

You're in luck, because the science shows you would be safe! I hope you're advocating to go in.

"Safe" in a small, poorly-ventilated classroom with multiple students who won't mask and won't reliably distance for multiple hours a day (far, far longer than the 15 minutes of combined exposure required for high risk)? "Science" says no such thing. Kids are not immune, no matter how much you'd like to pretend they are, and "they're not spreaders" is another Right Wing lie.

Nice cherry-picking to fit your desperation for in person, though. Sorry it's not going to happen.

NP

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Anonymous wrote:If it's less work to go in, maybe they should advocate for that, since statistically, they're no more at risk than the rest of us.

But no, they have apparently doubled their work while simultaneously producing worse results.

That's right -- because producing results is a reflection of the talent of the worker, the tools they have and the environment they are in. Teaching virtually is like a surgeon operating in the field with a butter knife instead of a scalpel in a sanitary hospital. The surgeon can work 100 times as hard, the outcomes won't be the same. This isn't the fault of the teacher.

So...like...doesn't sound as though distance learning is a good choice then...

Well...it's not the optimal choice...but you see...we're in a pandemic...so we will be doing distance learning...as we are in a pandemic.

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Anonymous wrote:I want to know how many people wanting to reopen are entitled white people.

The dad with twins is paying for childcare but couldn't find spanish childcare in DC? Really?

And he found childcare outside his home - he drives to another state to drop off his kids and pick them up? Or are they going to grandma and grandma doesn't speak spanish?

That doesn't make sense.

All I see here are a bunch of people who couldn't hack it at being teachers whining that these people took a vow of poverty to teacher their kids. The idea that teachers don't care about their kids have never seen a teacher cry on a Sunday while she's preparing lesson plans.

And those are garbage people.

parent your kids; relax about the standards; and know the disrespect you are tossing around the people who you want to watch and die for your kids is being heard by your kids.

Teachers in this country take a bullet for kids and now they are to die alone in a hospital so your kid won't fall behind. give me a break - if you can find DCUM, find the time to post on DCUM and talk to the post about your daycare in MD - your kid is not suffering from educational loss.

Standing ovation. This just about brought me to tears!

+1,000. And now angry idiots will accuse me of being a "sock puppet" because they are so desperate to stifle pro-DL voices, and because they are nothing if not predictable.

[Anonymous]

The parents who participated in this article are unbelievable whiners and COVID deniers.

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Anonymous wrote:LAMB did everything it could possibly do to accommodate teachers, and teachers still refuse to do their jobs. A lesson for schools everywhere in DC.

Did they? That might be true, I just don't see evidence of that. The WP article suggests that the administration didn't consult the teachers regarding the plan.

I'm not sure what more the teachers could want, but it would be useful to hear from them.

Unless there's other info out there, like the list of demands from the WTU.

I don’t think this is true. They surveyed teachers but it was as much a surprise to teachers as to parents that they wouldn’t reopen. Without a lot of collaboration and negotiation they would not know what exactly teachers wanted, or if there might be any way to accommodate.

I think honestly getting DL up to par was so hard it took all the time energy and brainpower of most admin, and teachers too, perhaps they didn’t get much further with the planning.

I must have missed this- when exactly has DL gotten up to par? As far as I can tell my kid is learning nothing. I wouldn’t mind the school not reopening, but fix DL.

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Anonymous wrote:African-American women are disproportionately like to a) get; b) die from COVID. There are also twice as likely as white people to be caring for elderly parents/relatives. Many white parents on DCUM use poor children (who they couldn't give zero effs about, normally) as a shield for their racist and misogynistic response to African-American teachers and the WTU. It is not laziness and a lack of caring for children that makes teacher skeptical about DCPS/DCPCS back to in-person school plans. It's fear and distrust. You have to counter fear and distrust with confidence building-measures like rapid testing and isolating students within the school building like they do in Scandinavia.

I'd suggest learning a little more before you slander people you don't know as racist. Almost two-thirds of the people who've died in DC from coronavirus are elderly (at least 70 years old). Most elderly people in DC are 1. African-American and 2. Female.

Do you mean libel?

Who do we think are taking care of elderly African-American women? Their African-American daughters, nieces, and daughters-in-law...wait for it...a lot of them work for DCPS or DCPCS.

Not at LAMB! LAMB is an extremely white school.

I mean, it's half Hispanic, about 15% African-American, and about a quarter white non-Hispanic.

Maybe that's a higher percentage of white kids than other schools, but I wouldn't call that "extremely white".

https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2017_Equity_Report_Public%20Charter%20School_Latin%20American%20Montessori%20Bilingual%20PCS.pdf

The school could ask its African-American families how many are taking care of elderly relatives (the answer is probably close to zero), and if they want schools to reopen, instead of simply assuming. But that would require LAMB to consult with parents, which is not its strong suit.

Mayor Bowser very much wants to open schools. It's my understanding that Mayor Bowser is an African-American woman.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If it's less work to go in, maybe they should advocate for that, since statistically, they're no more at risk than the rest of us.

But no, they have apparently doubled their work while simultaneously producing worse results.

That's right -- because producing results is a reflection of the talent of the worker, the tools they have and the environment they are in. Teaching virtually is like a surgeon operating in the field with a butter knife instead of a scalpel in a sanitary hospital. The surgeon can work 100 times as hard, the outcomes won't be the same. This isn't the fault of the teacher.

So...like...doesn't sound as though distance learning is a good choice then...

Well...it's not the optimal choice...but you see...we're in a pandemic...so we will be doing distance learning...as we are in a pandemic.

distance learning until 2023 wheee!! meanwhile private school kids have been in school the whole time.

[Anonymous]

I don’t understand the drive by parents to not discuss the issues with their schools publicly. Why is it a problem For parents to say they are frustrated, or have financial hardship, or want to see change? Why is this a “private matter”? It’s some weird culty behavior.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the drive by parents to not discuss the issues with their schools publicly. Why is it a problem For parents to say they are frustrated, or have financial hardship, or want to see change? Why is this a “private matter”? It’s some weird culty behavior.

I agree. I think it is a shame the reporter did not interview any parents who are in support of the school decision, really making this issue seem like a black and white "fight" between teachers and parents, which is totally untrue at LAMB and probably all other schools. However, I'm sad that some LAMB parents still think that not speaking publicly is the way we do things. Everyone has a right to speak their mind and even to (gasp!) speak to the press, should they wish. I don't feel the school has anything to hide, and I hate that culture which used to exist and was indeed a cause of what happened a few years ago. There's no need to be secretive. I applaud Charis Sharp for speaking openly to the Post about this challenge.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the drive by parents to not discuss the issues with their schools publicly. Why is it a problem For parents to say they are frustrated, or have financial hardship, or want to see change? Why is this a “private matter”? It’s some weird culty behavior.

I agree. I think it is a shame the reporter did not interview any parents who are in support of the school decision, really making this issue seem like a black and white "fight" between teachers and parents, which is totally untrue at LAMB and probably all other schools. However, I'm sad that some LAMB parents still think that not speaking publicly is the way we do things. Everyone has a right to speak their mind and even to (gasp!) speak to the press, should they wish. I don't feel the school has anything to hide, and I hate that culture which used to exist and was indeed a cause of what happened a few years ago. There's no need to be secretive. I applaud Charis Sharp for speaking openly to the Post about this challenge.

In her Zoom call, Charis said the school couldnt open because of the teachers. The Post just reported what she said.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand the drive by parents to not discuss the issues with their schools publicly. Why is it a problem For parents to say they are frustrated, or have financial hardship, or want to see change? Why is this a “private matter”? It’s some weird culty behavior.

It was my understanding that this is the actual point of this forum.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers are refusing to work, and schools are refusing to force teachers to work.

So I would rephrase this as teachers are refusing to work in person and schools are refusing to force teachers to work. Which I still have a problem with because DL is not as effective as in person learning. Just logistically speaking, kids are losing 20% of their instructional time with the Wednesday’s off. That has to lead to less learning.

Of course it leads to less learning and the teachers do not give two sh%&*

Wednesdays will no longer be off starting the 9th. Calm yourself Iago.

Teacher's care more about their own safety than your child's learning. They care about having a seat at the table.

No clue what the issue could be at charters. They literally all have top notch buildings....

They literally don't. DCPS has much more resources and access to facilities.