China sacrificed Wuhan to save the world, and the World did nothing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Object to the title. Did CCP ask for Western assistance in fighting Covid-19? Two of the early doctors who tracked it down disappeared, at least one died.

If not, then whether. they sacrifaced a city is their action alone.

Yes, THREAD TITLE is sheer PROPAGANDA.

The title itself is adopted from a Bloomberg article in late January


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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-05...ave-the-world-from-coronavirus

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wet markets are like what we would call farmer's markets but with stuff more out in the open. There is nothing inherently wrong with a wet market.

Wet markets with live wild animals (or any live animals) are a completely different story. This type of wet market should be shut down.

The regular wet markets (farmers market) are totally fine.

No, "wet" means the animal guts, blood, urine and feces are all intermingled with the live animals.

The Chinese Communist Government must ban this barbarian practice.

I also think the wet markets should be banned, but read this article to see the whole picture

Don’t Blame Bat Soup for the Coronavirus

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/31/coronavirus-china-trump-united-states-public-health-emergency-response/

I posted the wrong link, here is the correct one

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/01/27/coronavirus-covid19-dont-blame-bat-soup-for-the-virus/

The term "wet market" simply means that fresh food is sold - as opposed to dry goods market. It doesn't mean that there are live animals there. In fact, most don't have live animals.

I completely agree that markets selling live animals in those types of close urban quarters should be banned.

I lived in China for many many years (and trust me to say that I'm no China defender) but I never went to any urban wet market with live animals and I shopped at them regularly. I shopped at wet markets more than the grocery stores because the produce was more fresh.

Obviously there ARE wet markets that sell live animals and those are the ones that need to be shut down. I knew they existed but I never went because, well, it's totally gross. It's not the majority of them, however.

I grew up in Asia going to wet markets and they are by definition not "barbaric." Saying so is a an ignorant statement. The person saying that it is barbaric clearly has never been to or even know what a wet market is. What is true, however, is that many Chinese wet markets do not adhere to health regulations, and especially in China, health inspectors are often bribed to turn a blind eye. However, you can not say the same about developed countries and cities, such as Taiwan, Hong kong, or Singapore. The poor hygiene in the Chinese wet markets, in conjunction with eating exotic animals--yes even in China, bats, raccoon, pangolins, and the like are considered exotic and not authentic to Chinese cuisine--contribute to the outbreaks including SARS and COVID-19.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Of course we don't. They didn't knowingly spread disease and it isn't clear where it started exactly to blame anyone in the first place The soldiers sent to WWI helped win the war and save the world, despite causing flu to spread. China knew their dirty, unhygienic, unregulated animal and meat practices have caused pandemics already, and did nothing to prevent. And even once they knew, they did nothing to stop their citizens from flocking all over the world for business and pleasure. Not at all comparable to the US causing Spanish flu.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Except for yes this is china's fault. Their dirty food and animal practices are causing now multiple pandemics and they do nothing about it, yet we are supposed to thank them for planes of supplies??

So then the Spanish flu was our fault. And that killed on a much larger scale.

What government lied to the world as it spread day after day??? That's China.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Of course we don't. They didn't knowingly spread disease and it isn't clear where it started exactly to blame anyone in the first place The soldiers sent to WWI helped win the war and save the world, despite causing flu to spread. China knew their dirty, unhygienic, unregulated animal and meat practices have caused pandemics already, and did nothing to prevent. And even once they knew, they did nothing to stop their citizens from flocking all over the world for business and pleasure. Not at all comparable to the US causing Spanish flu.

So the supposedly super cleanness of Kansas farms did not help at all?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Except for yes this is china's fault. Their dirty food and animal practices are causing now multiple pandemics and they do nothing about it, yet we are supposed to thank them for planes of supplies??

So then the Spanish flu was our fault. And that killed on a much larger scale.

What government lied to the world as it spread day after day??? That's China.

And they locked down big time to slow the spread. You can't give them any credit for the good they did?

If you're concerned about lying, Trump LIES every day. That's the GOP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Of course we don't. They didn't knowingly spread disease and it isn't clear where it started exactly to blame anyone in the first place The soldiers sent to WWI helped win the war and save the world, despite causing flu to spread. China knew their dirty, unhygienic, unregulated animal and meat practices have caused pandemics already, and did nothing to prevent. And even once they knew, they did nothing to stop their citizens from flocking all over the world for business and pleasure. Not at all comparable to the US causing Spanish flu.

China didn't knowingly spread disease either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Of course we don't. They didn't knowingly spread disease and it isn't clear where it started exactly to blame anyone in the first place The soldiers sent to WWI helped win the war and save the world, despite causing flu to spread. China knew their dirty, unhygienic, unregulated animal and meat practices have caused pandemics already, and did nothing to prevent. And even once they knew, they did nothing to stop their citizens from flocking all over the world for business and pleasure. Not at all comparable to the US causing Spanish flu.

So the supposedly super cleanness of Kansas farms did not help at all?

The Spanish Flu originated in China. The first US victim was diagnosed in Kansas. China is a breeding ground for disease to this day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Of course we don't. They didn't knowingly spread disease and it isn't clear where it started exactly to blame anyone in the first place The soldiers sent to WWI helped win the war and save the world, despite causing flu to spread. China knew their dirty, unhygienic, unregulated animal and meat practices have caused pandemics already, and did nothing to prevent. And even once they knew, they did nothing to stop their citizens from flocking all over the world for business and pleasure. Not at all comparable to the US causing Spanish flu.

So the supposedly super cleanness of Kansas farms did not help at all?

The Spanish Flu originated in China. The first US victim was diagnosed in Kansas. China is a breeding ground for disease to this day.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/

"After the 1918–1919 pandemic, many investigators searched for the source of the disease. The American Medical Association sponsored what is generally considered the best of several comprehensive international studies of the pandemic conducted by Dr. Edwin Jordan, editor of The Journal of Infectious Disease."

"Since several influenza pandemics in preceding centuries were already well-known and had come from the orient, Jordan first considered Asia as the source. But he found no evidence. Influenza did surface in early 1918 in China, but the outbreaks were minor, did not spread, and contemporary Chinese scientists, trained by Rockefeller Institute for Medical Research (now Rockefeller University) investigators, stated they believed these outbreaks were endemic disease unrelated to the pandemic [3]. Jordan also looked at the lethal pulmonary disease cited by some historians as influenza, but this was diagnosed by contemporary scientists as pneumonic plague. By 1918 the plague bacillus could be easily and conclusively identified in the laboratory [3]. So after tracing all known outbreaks of respiratory disease in China, Jordan concluded that none of them "could be reasonably regarded as the true forerunner" of the pandemic [3]."


"Jordan considered other possible origins of the pandemic in early 1918 in France and India. He concluded that it was highly unlikely that the pandemic began in any of them [3].

That left the United States. Jordan looked at a series of spring outbreaks there. The evidence seemed far stronger. One could see influenza jumping from Army camp to camp, then into cities, and traveling with troops to Europe. His conclusion: the United States was the site of origin.

A later equally comprehensive, multi-volume British study of the pandemic agreed with Jordan. It too found no evidence for the influenza's origin in the Orient, it too rejected the 1916 outbreak among British troops, and it too concluded, "The disease was probably carried from the United States to Europe [5]."

Australian Nobel laureate MacFarlane Burnet spent most of his scientific career working on influenza and studied the pandemic closely. He too concluded that the evidence was "strongly suggestive" that the disease started in the United States and spread with "the arrival of American troops in France [6]."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Except for yes this is china's fault. Their dirty food and animal practices are causing now multiple pandemics and they do nothing about it, yet we are supposed to thank them for planes of supplies??

So then the Spanish flu was our fault. And that killed on a much larger scale.

What government lied to the world as it spread day after day??? That's China.

And the "world health organization" helped with the blatant coverup. No more american tax $$$ for WHO!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Except for yes this is china's fault. Their dirty food and animal practices are causing now multiple pandemics and they do nothing about it, yet we are supposed to thank them for planes of supplies??

So then the Spanish flu was our fault. And that killed on a much larger scale.

Spanish flu came from the sick man of Asia - China.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Except for yes this is china's fault. Their dirty food and animal practices are causing now multiple pandemics and they do nothing about it, yet we are supposed to thank them for planes of supplies??

So then the Spanish flu was our fault. And that killed on a much larger scale.

Spanish flu came from the sick man of Asia - China.

That’s a racisms

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Of course we don't. They didn't knowingly spread disease and it isn't clear where it started exactly to blame anyone in the first place The soldiers sent to WWI helped win the war and save the world, despite causing flu to spread. China knew their dirty, unhygienic, unregulated animal and meat practices have caused pandemics already, and did nothing to prevent. And even once they knew, they did nothing to stop their citizens from flocking all over the world for business and pleasure. Not at all comparable to the US causing Spanish flu.

China didn't knowingly spread disease either.

Why did they LIE about it THIS time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:China, like US in the Spanish flu, did not send the virus to destroy the world, instedd it is just the first victim of the virus.

+1

We don’t blame the farmers in Kansas for the Spanish flu.

Of course we don't. They didn't knowingly spread disease and it isn't clear where it started exactly to blame anyone in the first place The soldiers sent to WWI helped win the war and save the world, despite causing flu to spread. China knew their dirty, unhygienic, unregulated animal and meat practices have caused pandemics already, and did nothing to prevent. And even once they knew, they did nothing to stop their citizens from flocking all over the world for business and pleasure. Not at all comparable to the US causing Spanish flu.

China didn't knowingly spread disease either.

What happened to the two Chinese physician whistleblowers?

One was silenced, punished, and is now dead.
Another is simply "missing".

Please explain how the Chinese Communist Gov "didn't know" this was HIGHLY contagious?

[Anonymous]

No use in trying to talk to a mental.