Hydroxychloroquine

[Anonymous]

Well, he certainly sounds trustworthy!

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Anonymous wrote:Luckily, the EU might be leading the way on clinical trials in anti-malarials. They don't have our ridiculous political baggage. This is a serious situation here and we're so blinded by our stupid politics that we'll throw out a whole theory because some unfortunate people ingested some fish tank cleaner.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/23/clinical-trials-starting-in-europe-as-new-drug-offers-hope-of-potential-coronavirus-treatm

Fox News at its best!

I'm a left leaning Democrat, btw. The fact that some random people got confused and took something highly toxic should not be a national narrative. It is a personal tragedy.

I agree, but the PRESIDENT of the United States should not be tweeting out confusing advice like this, FFS.

there was nothing confusing about it - he touted the FDA approved drug that is in fact used by many doctors (hence shortages), not cleaning supplies.

The shortages are because he touted it.

this is not toilet paper, it’s a prescription medicine. someone is prescribing it.

Yes, every dentist, dermatologist, and gastroenterologist who saw Trump tout it “prescribed” it for themselves, their friends and their family members so they could have it on hand if someone tested positive.

lets say that this is true (which is total nonsense). why would they do something like that?

It is true. Pharmacists have reported it and are contacting state boards. Some doctors are going to be in hot water.

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Anonymous wrote:Luckily, the EU might be leading the way on clinical trials in anti-malarials. They don't have our ridiculous political baggage. This is a serious situation here and we're so blinded by our stupid politics that we'll throw out a whole theory because some unfortunate people ingested some fish tank cleaner.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/23/clinical-trials-starting-in-europe-as-new-drug-offers-hope-of-potential-coronavirus-treatm

Fox News at its best!

I'm a left leaning Democrat, btw. The fact that some random people got confused and took something highly toxic should not be a national narrative. It is a personal tragedy.

I agree, but the PRESIDENT of the United States should not be tweeting out confusing advice like this, FFS.

there was nothing confusing about it - he touted the FDA approved drug that is in fact used by many doctors (hence shortages), not cleaning supplies.

The shortages are because he touted it.

this is not toilet paper, it’s a prescription medicine. someone is prescribing it.

Yes, every dentist, dermatologist, and gastroenterologist who saw Trump tout it “prescribed” it for themselves, their friends and their family members so they could have it on hand if someone tested positive.

Proof?

There are pharmacists who have said this and that they refused those prescriptions so they would have the stock for their customers with lupus who needed it. Have you read this whole thread?

https://www.propublica.org/article/doctors-are-hoarding-unproven-coronavirus-medicine-by-writing-prescriptions-for-themselves-and-their-families

[Anonymous]

I doubt the naysayer will believe anything, but this is being widely reported by news establishments and pharmacists and pharmacist boards in multiple states:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/23/820228658/why-hoarding-of-hydroxychloroquine-needs-to-stop

[Anonymous]

I think I'd rather have COVID-19 than take chloroquine again. I took it for malaria prophylaxis in the early 90s and had to stop after 6 weeks. I had terrifying nightmares that were so real that I didn't know I was dreaming and the nightmares got worse the longer I was on it.

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Anonymous wrote:I doubt the naysayer will believe anything, but this is being widely reported by news establishments and pharmacists and pharmacist boards in multiple states:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/03/23/820228658/why-hoarding-of-hydroxychloroquine-needs-to-stop

NYPost which has a bias to the right is even reporting it.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/doctors-hoarding-untested-anti-coronavirus-drugs-for-themselves-report/amp/

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Anonymous wrote:Nigeria is warning that it sickened patients.

omg you can overdose on tylenol - people actually use it to kill themselves. you can die from drinking too much water. the drug has been approved by FDA for decades. its side effects are extremely well understood. stop acting like trump pulled it out of his ass.

Trump DID pull it out of his ass. He tries to bluff his way through everything and his gross incompetence in this situation will result in tens of thousands of avoidable deaths. I hope he gets it and dies. Fast.

[Anonymous]

I am someone who needs the medicine but can’t get it right now. I’ve been taking a half dose and hoping it’s available in mid April when my pharmacy said they might get more in. I think it’s unethical that we’re making doctors fight this virus without the right tools. And so I’m not surprised they would justify their own unethical behavior at this time. But if it’s dentists or dermatologists or something, then that’s bad.

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Anonymous wrote:I am someone who needs the medicine but can’t get it right now. I’ve been taking a half dose and hoping it’s available in mid April when my pharmacy said they might get more in. I think it’s unethical that we’re making doctors fight this virus without the right tools. And so I’m not surprised they would justify their own unethical behavior at this time. But if it’s dentists or dermatologists or something, then that’s bad.

Off label use is not unethical.

However doctors writing scripts for the med where it's not indicated is unethical.

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Malaria Drug Chloroquine No Better Than Regular Coronavirus Care, Study Finds

Hydroxychloroquine, a medicine for malaria that President Donald Trump has touted as a treatment for coronavirus, was no more effective than conventional care, a small study found.

The report published by the Journal of Zhejiang University in China showed that patients who got the medicine didn’t fight off the new coronavirus more often than those who did not get the medicine.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-25/hydroxychloroquine-no-better-than-regular-covid-19-care-in-study

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Anonymous wrote:I am someone who needs the medicine but can’t get it right now. I’ve been taking a half dose and hoping it’s available in mid April when my pharmacy said they might get more in. I think it’s unethical that we’re making doctors fight this virus without the right tools. And so I’m not surprised they would justify their own unethical behavior at this time. But if it’s dentists or dermatologists or something, then that’s bad.

Off label use is not unethical.

However doctors writing scripts for the med where it's not indicated is unethical.

By unethical, I mean writing prescriptions so people an have it in hand “in case” they get Coronavirus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think I'd rather have COVID-19 than take chloroquine again. I took it for malaria prophylaxis in the early 90s and had to stop after 6 weeks. I had terrifying nightmares that were so real that I didn't know I was dreaming and the nightmares got worse the longer I was on it.

this. my brother took it in Africa and had a terrifying episode of near-psychosis.

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Anonymous wrote:Nigeria is warning that it sickened patients.

omg you can overdose on tylenol - people actually use it to kill themselves. you can die from drinking too much water. the drug has been approved by FDA for decades. its side effects are extremely well understood. stop acting like trump pulled it out of his ass.

Trump DID pull it out of his ass. He tries to bluff his way through everything and his gross incompetence in this situation will result in tens of thousands of avoidable deaths. I hope he gets it and dies. Fast.

Let's leave politics out of this

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Anonymous wrote:OP you are dumb. It's not tested. It needs to be tested. Also, there are OTHER people who NEED this drug and now because of idiot Trump aren't able to get their medicine. Think about them, please.

I dont think OP'S question is dumb at all. You have a point too, and there are nicer ways to bring it up. (Without name calling )

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Anonymous wrote:I think I'd rather have COVID-19 than take chloroquine again. I took it for malaria prophylaxis in the early 90s and had to stop after 6 weeks. I had terrifying nightmares that were so real that I didn't know I was dreaming and the nightmares got worse the longer I was on it.

Hmmmm let me think it through...

nightmares......death
nightmares......death
nightmares.......death

NIGHTMARES ANYTIME!!!!!