Familiarity with a disruptive kid in the classroom (FCPS) - what to do?

[Anonymous]

PP here. This is a link to the state law:

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-276.2/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. This is a link to the state law:

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-276.2/

Doesn't it say School Boards can establish the rules?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here. This is a link to the state law:

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-276.2/

Doesn't it say School Boards can establish the rules?

Yes. Of course, but they have to support the state law. They actually require school boards to develop a policy supporting the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here. This is a link to the state law:

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-276.2/

Doesn't it say School Boards can establish the rules?

Yes. Of course, but they have to support the state law. They actually require school boards to develop a policy supporting the law.

I'm not sure they are not looking at this in the reverse from you--i.e. in favor of the troubling student over the teacher's authority?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP here. This is a link to the state law:

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title22.1/chapter14/section22.1-276.2/

Doesn't it say School Boards can establish the rules?

Yes. Of course, but they have to support the state law. They actually require school boards to develop a policy supporting the law.

I'm not sure they are not looking at this in the reverse from you--i.e. in favor of the troubling student over the teacher's authority?

I don't know. You can read the the policy and decide. https://go.boarddocs.com/vsba/fairfax/Board.nsf/files/ACURMX6E92E6/$file/R2606.pdf

REMOVAL OF STUDENTS FROM CLASSES
A. The teacher shall have initial authority to remove a student from class for disruptive behavior that interrupts or obstructs the learning environment as provided for by
section 22.1-276.2 of the Code of Virginia. The removal of students from class under this regulation relates to a decision by the teacher that a student should be discharged and not returned to the classroom for an indeterminate time longer than one school day. This regulation is not applicable to referrals whereby students are sent from class to meet with school administrators about a particular issue or are sent from the classroom for a limited duration of time. Nor is this regulation applicable to student suspensions. Removal from the classroom is part of a continuum of interventions available to address problems of student conduct.
B. Nothing herein shall preclude the immediate removal of a student for behavior that might warrant suspension from school or limit or restrict other regulations related to maintaining student behavior and discipline.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.

I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.

This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."

I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.

The teacher can remove the student for a minimum of 24 hours if the behaviors are repeated and strategies are not working. It’s state law and every VA school has a policy that addresses it.

Except he might have an IEP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It has come to our attention that my child's classroom has a gifted child with social issues. He will attack other kids, throw desks and disrupt the classroom. Apparently this has been doing on since the beginning of the year but we just learned of it. We have asked our kid to tell us when these incidents happen and what they are. It happens as infrequently as once a week and as frequently as three times a week. When an incident happens they clear everyone else from the classroom and they sit in the hallway until the kid can be calmed down. No one can touch the kid and a counselor and principal are brought in.

I started talking to some friends in other FCPS and apparently this is more of the norm than what I would believe or even thought. I know I am coming off as insensitive and I am not the parent of this kid with issues -- but 25 other kids are suffering in their education. How is this fair for the teacher to have these kinds of disruptions on such a regular basis. And, what is my recourse if this kid hurts my kid since apparently he almost hit another kid with a chair (but missed) in one of these outbursts. He has pulled a kids hair and shoved another.

This is a result of activism. The disruptive kid can not be removed from the classroom. That is considered "exclusion." Teachers can only use positive methods of discipline.
Sometimes, these kids have serious disabilities that lead to this behavior, but must be mainstreamed. He's probably labeled "twice-exceptional."

I taught years ago. There have always been kids who behaved like this--although, there appear to be more now. There is also a difference in a "discipline" problem and a kid with special needs. Some kids are just troublemakers because they are spoiled or neglected. Others cannot seem to help it and the parents, too, are likely desperate.
But, these parents have no understanding of what this disruption does to others. It's the death of common sense. Kids like that need to be placed elsewhere if this happens regularly.

The teacher can remove the student for a minimum of 24 hours if the behaviors are repeated and strategies are not working. It’s state law and every VA school has a policy that addresses it.

Except he might have an IEP.

That doesn’t exclude the child from being removed. It only means they cannot be removed for more than 10 days in a school year.