well no wonder Amy Chua defended Brett Kavanugh so emphatically

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand how she can defer her military commitment. I know multiple people who had to enter the service immediately as soon as they finished their undergrad, law, and medical degrees.

That's what happens when Uncle Sam pays for your education.

Is she no longer being funded by the ROTC program? Perhaps her parents ended up paying for law school?

None of this makes any sense.

It absolutely makes sense. Deferments are given more than you think. It does not absolve her of military duty--it only delays it.

And, I posted this before, training does not always start immediately after graduation. It can even be a wait of over a year--at the Army's convenience. It all depends on the number of grads and when training is available. That training classes are limited by size. The Army may have been delighted to give her a deferment. And, FWIW, it will be a feather in the JAG corps to have a former SC clerk. Use your common sense.

+1

Except that there have been multiple posters saying they had to postpone clerkships post law school til they fulfilled their required service.

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And if their kids got handed a sweet clerkship after they were out publicly shilling for his nomination, that would look wicked shady, too. Esp if the clerk to be was somehow cheating taxpayers of military service we paid for.

LOL! I bet you believed Blasey Ford, too.

You really think Kavanaugh would not have been approved without Amy Chua? Seems to me he had a lot of people come forward in his defense. And, FWIW. you do not know that she is cheating the taxpayers out of military service.

This. Chua was just one of many, many people who came forward to support Kavanaugh. All had nothing but glowing things to say about him as a peer, employee, employer, mentor, and friend. He had absolutely no black marks on his career before Blasey Ford accused him of allegedly groping her - 35 years ago while in high school. It still boggles my mind that something that nebulous was taken so far as to try and ruin a man's life and career. Very glad they did *not* get away with it.

I mean, he did though. You've forgotten, I guess, but he was not on the original list for a reason. McConnell told Trump not to pick him for a reason. The ABA president spoke against him for a reason.

Where are you getting that McConnell told Trump “not to pick him”? Link?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And if their kids got handed a sweet clerkship after they were out publicly shilling for his nomination, that would look wicked shady, too. Esp if the clerk to be was somehow cheating taxpayers of military service we paid for.

LOL! I bet you believed Blasey Ford, too.

You really think Kavanaugh would not have been approved without Amy Chua? Seems to me he had a lot of people come forward in his defense. And, FWIW. you do not know that she is cheating the taxpayers out of military service.

This. Chua was just one of many, many people who came forward to support Kavanaugh. All had nothing but glowing things to say about him as a peer, employee, employer, mentor, and friend. He had absolutely no black marks on his career before Blasey Ford accused him of allegedly groping her - 35 years ago while in high school. It still boggles my mind that something that nebulous was taken so far as to try and ruin a man's life and career. Very glad they did *not* get away with it.

I mean, he did though. You've forgotten, I guess, but he was not on the original list for a reason. McConnell told Trump not to pick him for a reason. The ABA president spoke against him for a reason.

Where are you getting that McConnell told Trump “not to pick him”? Link?

You forgot.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/us/politics/trump-mcconnell-supreme-court.html

There was plenty more then.

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She was ROTC at Harvard. The Army has invested 4 years of Harvard education/ROTC training into her - you better believe they had a spot ready for her when she graduated.

So she got an educational deferment for law school - not highly unusual. But an additional deferment for a clerkship is unusual. And then ANOTHER deferment for a Supreme Court clerkship - I'm pretty confident that has never happened before. What use does the Army JAG Corps have for a former Supreme Court clerk?

Bet she has a good time processing insurance claims and filling out wills and POAs for deployments.

Do you know anything about military JAG? Who do you think prosecutes and defends soldiers when they are tried? Who do you think sits on the military bench? Oh, sure, someone high profile like Bergdahl or Hassan may hire a private attorney, but most are handled in house.
Sure, there are JAG officers involved in wills and POAs which are pretty much forms prepared by paralegals, but that is minimal compared to most of the other duties. Who do you think handles sexual assault cases? Regular assault cases? AWOL? Desertion? Theft? etc. Oh, and there are also housing discrimination cases, and all types of legal issues.

There will be plenty of time for her to serve. She may have already, in fact.

I love it when people who know nothing try educate those who do know what they're talking about. DH was an ROTC JAG and I was a civilian attorney working on post, but I'll defer to your superior knowledge.

DH thinks Tiger Mommy might have or will pay off Tiger Baby's commitment, but I think she'll eventually serve because she probably has political ambitions and military service seems to be a good addition to the political resume. And just think what kind of book Amy could write about that!

Sounds like the PP knew what they were talking about. Perhaps you’re just insecure?

You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

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You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

LOL!

You think captains don't get to do a court martial? Gee, I remember one who got to try a murder case. I will say that the defendant hired a private defense attorney, though.

Sorry, your DH didn't get to have that experience. How long was he a "new JAG?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She was ROTC at Harvard. The Army has invested 4 years of Harvard education/ROTC training into her - you better believe they had a spot ready for her when she graduated.

So she got an educational deferment for law school - not highly unusual. But an additional deferment for a clerkship is unusual. And then ANOTHER deferment for a Supreme Court clerkship - I'm pretty confident that has never happened before. What use does the Army JAG Corps have for a former Supreme Court clerk?

Bet she has a good time processing insurance claims and filling out wills and POAs for deployments.

Do you know anything about military JAG? Who do you think prosecutes and defends soldiers when they are tried? Who do you think sits on the military bench? Oh, sure, someone high profile like Bergdahl or Hassan may hire a private attorney, but most are handled in house.
Sure, there are JAG officers involved in wills and POAs which are pretty much forms prepared by paralegals, but that is minimal compared to most of the other duties. Who do you think handles sexual assault cases? Regular assault cases? AWOL? Desertion? Theft? etc. Oh, and there are also housing discrimination cases, and all types of legal issues.

There will be plenty of time for her to serve. She may have already, in fact.

I love it when people who know nothing try educate those who do know what they're talking about. DH was an ROTC JAG and I was a civilian attorney working on post, but I'll defer to your superior knowledge.

DH thinks Tiger Mommy might have or will pay off Tiger Baby's commitment, but I think she'll eventually serve because she probably has political ambitions and military service seems to be a good addition to the political resume. And just think what kind of book Amy could write about that!

Sounds like the PP knew what they were talking about. Perhaps you’re just insecure?

You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

Interesting. You should drop an email to abovethelaw and get them working on this story.

[Anonymous]

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You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

LOL!

You think captains don't get to do a court martial? Gee, I remember one who got to try a murder case. I will say that the defendant hired a private defense attorney, though.

Sorry, your DH didn't get to have that experience. How long was he a "new JAG?"

Since when is Tiger Baby a Captain?

[Anonymous]

Does JAG now pay for all of law school, too, on top of ROTC paying for her Ivy undergrad? Google has conflating info.

I was under the idea ROTC locks her in for 3-4 years of active duty, plus JAG locks you in for 3 years. Does that mean she's kicking the can down the street on 6-7 years of active duty...or you serve those concurrently (so only 3-4 years total)...or is there some way she's going to weasel out of all of it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

LOL!

You think captains don't get to do a court martial? Gee, I remember one who got to try a murder case. I will say that the defendant hired a private defense attorney, though.

Sorry, your DH didn't get to have that experience. How long was he a "new JAG?"

Since when is Tiger Baby a Captain?

JAG officers begin as 1st Lieutenants and get promoted to Captain within a year of service--shortly after going to first assignment after JAG course.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

Interesting. You should drop an email to abovethelaw and get them working on this story.

Isn't he the law school alum writer who shamelessly boasted (in jest?) about how his sketchy dad's political connections and affirmative action are the only reason he got into Harvard and Harvard Law? Then he proceeded to flunk the BAR and defaulted on his loans and wrote endlessly about law school being a scam, while he mooched off his lawyer wife? Real piece of work, if that's the guy I'm thinking of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

LOL!

You think captains don't get to do a court martial? Gee, I remember one who got to try a murder case. I will say that the defendant hired a private defense attorney, though.

Sorry, your DH didn't get to have that experience. How long was he a "new JAG?"

Since when is Tiger Baby a Captain?

JAG officers begin as 1st Lieutenants and get promoted to Captain within a year of service--shortly after going to first assignment after JAG course.

She hasn’t started her service, much less completed a year of it. That’s... one of the central points of this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

Interesting. You should drop an email to abovethelaw and get them working on this story.

Isn't he the law school alum writer who shamelessly boasted (in jest?) about how his sketchy dad's political connections and affirmative action are the only reason he got into Harvard and Harvard Law? Then he proceeded to flunk the BAR and defaulted on his loans and wrote endlessly about law school being a scam, while he mooched off his lawyer wife? Real piece of work, if that's the guy I'm thinking of.

Lol

So you're too good to read Above The Law?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does JAG now pay for all of law school, too, on top of ROTC paying for her Ivy undergrad? Google has conflating info.

I was under the idea ROTC locks her in for 3-4 years of active duty, plus JAG locks you in for 3 years. Does that mean she's kicking the can down the street on 6-7 years of active duty...or you serve those concurrently (so only 3-4 years total)...or is there some way she's going to weasel out of all of it?

No. There is a special program that will pay for law school--but, I don't think it piggybacks on ROTC undergrad. (I may be wrong on that. It is a selective program. I don't think the clerk had law school paid for.

It is unclear from the limited reporting when she took the ROTC scholarship. I got the impression that she did not take it in her freshman year.

The commitment does not lock you into 3-4 years of Active Duty (those rules have changed over the years). Not sure that JAG locks you in for any longer.

The ROTC commitment can be either active or reserve (the R in ROTC stands for Reserve). 2nd Lts attend their branch training lt's course as Active Duty. If they are on Active Duty, then they go to their first assignment. If Reserve duty, they go one weekend per month to "drill," and two weeks per year to Annual Training.
If they do not serve on Active duty, the Reserve commitment is eight years. If Active duty, it is 3-4 years and then they can go in Reserves or IRR (Individual Ready Reserve) for the remainder of the commitment. IRR means that you can be called up, if needed.

Not sure if the rules are different for JAG. If law school was not paid for by Army, I would think it is the same as for other ROTC grads.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

She was ROTC at Harvard. The Army has invested 4 years of Harvard education/ROTC training into her - you better believe they had a spot ready for her when she graduated.

So she got an educational deferment for law school - not highly unusual. But an additional deferment for a clerkship is unusual. And then ANOTHER deferment for a Supreme Court clerkship - I'm pretty confident that has never happened before. What use does the Army JAG Corps have for a former Supreme Court clerk?

Bet she has a good time processing insurance claims and filling out wills and POAs for deployments.

Do you know anything about military JAG? Who do you think prosecutes and defends soldiers when they are tried? Who do you think sits on the military bench? Oh, sure, someone high profile like Bergdahl or Hassan may hire a private attorney, but most are handled in house.
Sure, there are JAG officers involved in wills and POAs which are pretty much forms prepared by paralegals, but that is minimal compared to most of the other duties. Who do you think handles sexual assault cases? Regular assault cases? AWOL? Desertion? Theft? etc. Oh, and there are also housing discrimination cases, and all types of legal issues.

There will be plenty of time for her to serve. She may have already, in fact.

I love it when people who know nothing try educate those who do know what they're talking about. DH was an ROTC JAG and I was a civilian attorney working on post, but I'll defer to your superior knowledge.

DH thinks Tiger Mommy might have or will pay off Tiger Baby's commitment, but I think she'll eventually serve because she probably has political ambitions and military service seems to be a good addition to the political resume. And just think what kind of book Amy could write about that!

Sounds like the PP knew what they were talking about. Perhaps you’re just insecure?

You are about as qualified as a Supreme Court clerk to try a sexual assault case. You think they throw a brand-new JAG into a major felony trial? New JAGs will start in legal assistance, etc. You want someone who's spent 2 years being chased around the desk by Brett Kavanaugh defending your court-martial?

The ultimate point is that Tiger Mom's kid is getting special treatment. The question is why.

Seriously? What a grossly inappropriate remark. Why am I not surprised. Kavanaugh has never done any such thing, so keep your fevered imagination to yourself.

[Anonymous]

Tiger Mom knows that at the end of day, Supreme Court clerkship is a Supreme Court clerkship. Signing bonus. White mommies gnash teeth in anger. Tiger Mom plays long game.