The Serena cartoon — too much, too far?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She needs to apologize for her egregious behavior and blatant lying to the officials. Her coach even admitted he was giving her hand signals. Oops!

Not Oops! Every coach was coaching... Oops! Wait, every coach then why was there only 1 player penalized? Double Oops!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand people on here saying that the cartoon is racist.

And oh BTW Serena never brought race into this incident, but everyone else is.

Remove one word and you pretty much have my opinion on the subject.

But think about the history of these types of images. I think its easy for people to individualize this cartoon to just Serena but when I look at it, it condemns all black women as angry black women. Folks should really go over to the African American Museum they explain really well the impact and purpose of these types of images. The history of watermelon and black people is a really great example.

I'm really not trying to exacerbate the debate here but I wish people would take a second to try and find information that refutes their beliefs. It's too easy of an out to just say this cartoon depicts what happened. It's much more damaging in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding Osaka being white in the cartoon, the interwebs are defending that as merely the cartoonist fading out the background.

No one denies, but many excuse, the rendering of Osaka as a skinny perky white blonde.

I deny it. Not only is she actually blonde (dyed), but if you actually bothered to look at the cartoon, you would see that she was in fact colored in brown.

She is not blonde (dyed). The ends of her hair are dyed blonde, the cartoon has blonde hair.

Even in his interview he admits that his drawing was thoughtless. He saw a tennis match, drew the picture and never imagined the political implications.

He did not purposely draw her blonde, he unconsciously drew her blonde. Just like you think, her hair is blonde.

When her hair is in a ponytail and she has a hat on you only see the part of her hair that's blonde. As people have tried to point out many times - this is a caricature and the opponent and the judge are drawn generically, not true to life, because they are not the subjects of this drawing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand people on here saying that the cartoon is racist.

And oh BTW Serena never brought race into this incident, but everyone else is.

Remove one word and you pretty much have my opinion on the subject.

But think about the history of these types of images. I think its easy for people to individualize this cartoon to just Serena but when I look at it, it condemns all black women as angry black women. Folks should really go over to the African American Museum they explain really well the impact and purpose of these types of images. The history of watermelon and black people is a really great example.

I'm really not trying to exacerbate the debate here but I wish people would take a second to try and find information that refutes their beliefs. It's too easy of an out to just say this cartoon depicts what happened. It's much more damaging in my opinion.

Then boycott this artist. Seriously. This cartoon is a result of what happened on that court, it is not the reason for Serena's meltdown.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Regarding Osaka being white in the cartoon, the interwebs are defending that as merely the cartoonist fading out the background.

No one denies, but many excuse, the rendering of Osaka as a skinny perky white blonde.

I deny it. Not only is she actually blonde (dyed), but if you actually bothered to look at the cartoon, you would see that she was in fact colored in brown.

She is not blonde (dyed). The ends of her hair are dyed blonde, the cartoon has blonde hair.

Even in his interview he admits that his drawing was thoughtless. He saw a tennis match, drew the picture and never imagined the political implications.

He did not purposely draw her blonde, he unconsciously drew her blonde. Just like you think, her hair is blonde.

When her hair is in a ponytail and she has a hat on you only see the part of her hair that's blonde. As people have tried to point out many times - this is a caricature and the opponent and the judge are drawn generically, not true to life, because they are not the subjects of this drawing.

The real Osaka had a bun not a pony tail and only the tips blonde, the cartoon has a long straight blonde pony tail placed high on the back of her head and all of it is blonde.

[Anonymous]

The Naomi figure in the cartoon is white, skinny, perky boobs and sporting non-kinky, straight/wavey blonde hair in a high pony.
The one person on earth who thinks the cartoonist colored the two the same needs to get a vision test.

[Anonymous]

Why are you people arguing with these racists?
What a waste of energy.

[Anonymous]

Someone pls post today’s WaPo article that has cartoonists weighing in. It’s really enlightening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Someone pls post today’s WaPo article that has cartoonists weighing in. It’s really enlightening.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2018/09/13/a-racist-serena-williams-cartoon-went-viral-heres-how-to-caricature-her-the-right-way/?utm_term=.2e77607e474b


...“It’s not hard to caricature a black person. Just don’t do it like they did it 100 years ago,” says Bell, an RFK Award-winning cartoonist....

...If you’re tempted to make their lips look like airbags, or to make their nose take up half their faces, you’re being lazy. Especially when, as in the case of Serena, her lips and her nose aren’t especially large....

[Anonymous]

“Caricatures always exaggerates features that stand out.
But that doesn’t mean ‘features that stand out compared to white people.’”

[Anonymous]

The artist emphasized a big, overgrown baby face - "Wahhh!"- on Serena. While the two adults in the background were discussing how best to placate her.

Look at the actual caricature. She is drawn as a big baby having a tantrum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The artist emphasized a big, overgrown baby face - "Wahhh!"- on Serena. While the two adults in the background were discussing how best to placate her.
Look at the actual caricature. She is drawn as a big baby having a tantrum.

Your viewpoint is opposite of the multiple syndicated cartoon artists with about 100 years experience among them. But whatever. We know racism and sexism can be blind and dumb.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The artist emphasized a big, overgrown baby face - "Wahhh!"- on Serena. While the two adults in the background were discussing how best to placate her.

Look at the actual caricature. She is drawn as a big baby having a tantrum.

^ This. And enough of that BS from PC cartoonists lecturing other cartoonists on how to draw. The Taliban don’t run Australia, at least not yet!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Caricatures always exaggerates features that stand out.
But that doesn’t mean ‘features that stand out compared to white people.’”

Have you looked at caricatures of Trump lately? He's not looking attractive, either.

You didn't read the article by the cartoonists did you.

[Anonymous]

I didn't think it was that bad. I mean it correctly captured the moment right?