The Serena cartoon — too much, too far?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eh, I thought it was a fairly good likeness. Cartoons are satire.....everybody needs to calm down.

Ok so why depict Osaka as white?

Maybe it's my computer screen but Osaka looks tan to me- not white. Not the same shade as the ref.

Care to explain the blonde hair?

I'm not sure why anybody needs to explain this to you but her hair is blonde.

[Anonymous]

Osaka’s “blonde hair” is nothing like the white blonde ponytail lady.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eh, I thought it was a fairly good likeness. Cartoons are satire.....everybody needs to calm down.

Ok so why depict Osaka as white?

Osaka is asian.

She is half japanese and is identifying as japanese. She is Japanese.

Signed
Half Japanese person.

[Anonymous]

http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/tennis/news/serena-williams-vs-naomi-osaka-us-open-2018-results-final-grand-slam-flushing-meadows/1wlf2ahq5brua1wxh26rzbog3q

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cartoons are caricatures. And Serena Williams is a very masculine looking woman and she threw a tantrum ....
I also did not think that this cartoon overplayed the "angry black woman" theme. Why? Because Serena was at that moment an angry spoilt brat. She is entitled to be human. She is also entitled to be fined.

I did not find it racist at all.

However, I am shocked by the fact that Osaka was depicted as a White woman. This single thing, IMHO, showed the implicit bias of the cartoonist.

I did not object to Serena being shown as masculine (she is - people have eyes), but I completely objected to Osaka (Hawaiian and Japanese, with very dark skin) - being shown as a meek, subservient, White woman who was being told by a paternalistic man sitting way above her to just let Serena win - absolutely misogynistic and racist. I found it insulting to women of all colors including White woman.

Serena was not dissed. All women and Osaka were.

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Take a calm black Osaka champion and make her white. Hmmm.
That’s better.

Or show that White women are meek and need to be told like a child what they should do? This made a world class female athlete in a prestigious and highly competitive, popular sport that generates $$$$$, look like a kindergartner who was told to share her toys because larlita was having a bad day.

What happened on the court that day did not upset me - a colored woman who is a die-hard fan of the Williams sisters. They are athletes and human beings. They are under a microscope and they are allowed to have a bad day. The umpire followed the rules. There is no excuse that a top athlete and a top coach to not know all the rules and etiquette of their sport. The coach coached from the sidelines and Serena was fined. She was angry and threw a tantrum and she was fined again. This was just an incident. It happens and no big deal.

The cartoon's depiction of Osaka was actually very shocking. I am all for giving the benefit of doubt to the cartoonist, as long as he addresses the implicit bias he is carrying within himself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eh, I thought it was a fairly good likeness. Cartoons are satire.....everybody needs to calm down.

Ok so why depict Osaka as white?

Maybe it's my computer screen but Osaka looks tan to me- not white. Not the same shade as the ref.

Care to explain the blonde hair?

She has (fading)blonde hair during the match

Uhhh...
Doesn't look 100% Scandinavian blonde to me but okay...if you say so

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://www.sportingnews.com/ca/tennis/news/serena-williams-vs-naomi-osaka-us-open-2018-results-final-grand-slam-flushing-meadows/1wlf2ahq5brua1wxh26rzbog3q

Sorry, I don't know how to post images.

Nothing like what was depicted in the cartoon. You can get the ponytail blond but not the color of the rest of her hair? Not the Asian features? Not the dark skin?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eh, I thought it was a fairly good likeness. Cartoons are satire.....everybody needs to calm down.

Ok so why depict Osaka as white?

Maybe it's my computer screen but Osaka looks tan to me- not white. Not the same shade as the ref.

Care to explain the blonde hair?

She has (fading)blonde hair during the match

Uhhh...
Doesn't look 100% Scandinavian blonde to me but okay...if you say so

To the poster who claimed they didn’t realize Osaka was mixed...you’re blind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Osaka’s “blonde hair” is nothing like the white blonde ponytail lady.

Japanese, Black, Haitian, however she identifies, Naomi is not the Maria/Anna blonde white lady tennis champ like the cartoonist depicts.

[Anonymous]

Osaka's hair is kinky and black. Her ponytail is blond but still kinky. Osaka is not a blond. She has a headful of Black hair, only her ponytail is blond.

She is not tanned. She is not the spawn of George Hamilton.

She is Japanese and Hawaiian. She has dark skin (from perhaps black genes). She does not have the complexion of a tanned white woman or a fair Japanese woman. She however identifies as Japanese and not White.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Osaka's hair is kinky and black. Her ponytail is blond but still kinky. Osaka is not a blond. She has a headful of Black hair, only her ponytail is blond.

She is not tanned. She is not the spawn of George Hamilton.

She is Japanese and Hawaiian. She has dark skin (from perhaps black genes). She does not have the complexion of a tanned white woman or a fair Japanese woman. She however identifies as Japanese and not White.

Haitian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Osaka's hair is kinky and black. Her ponytail is blond but still kinky. Osaka is not a blond. She has a headful of Black hair, only her ponytail is blond.

She is not tanned. She is not the spawn of George Hamilton.

She is Japanese and Hawaiian. She has dark skin (from perhaps black genes). She does not have the complexion of a tanned white woman or a fair Japanese woman. She however identifies as Japanese and not White.

Japanese (mother) and Haitian (father)

Her hair, complexion, mouth and nose clearly show she has black genes.

[Anonymous]

I understand what you are saying but keep in mind that it's a cartoon, it's not realistic. Also, the subject of the cartoon isn't Osaka, it's Serena's outburst. Nobody is talking about how the cartoon ref does not look like the real ref. My point is that it's a cartoon, it's satire and does not have to be accurate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I understand what you are saying but keep in mind that it's a cartoon, it's not realistic. Also, the subject of the cartoon isn't Osaka, it's Serena's outburst. Nobody is talking about how the cartoon ref does not look like the real ref. My point is that it's a cartoon, it's satire and does not have to be accurate.

It also doesn't have to be accepted as trivial or whimsical or harmless.
Both the depiction of Serena AND the depiction of Osaka CAN be interpreted as sexist and racist and offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Osaka's hair is kinky and black. Her ponytail is blond but still kinky. Osaka is not a blond. She has a headful of Black hair, only her ponytail is blond.

She is not tanned. She is not the spawn of George Hamilton.

She is Japanese and Hawaiian. She has dark skin (from perhaps black genes). She does not have the complexion of a tanned white woman or a fair Japanese woman. She however identifies as Japanese and not White.

Okinawan and Ryukan women are not pale. They are tan, just slightly lighter than her skin tone.