McConnell now offering time for vote by 12 Noon Monday

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

They got CHIP for six years. It's not everything, but it's sure not nothing.

Much more important to get funding for poor American children than an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. The latter can wait. Contrary to the alarm bells Schumer is sounding, nobody is waiting in the wings to deport them.

Tell that to the guy in Detroit who just got deported, leaving his wife and kids behind or the 40 year veteran polish doctor who was deported yesterday.

They're not DACA adults. They'll illegals so no protection. I'm talking about DACA.

I kinda hope stuff like The Day After Tomorrow happens, so then you have to beg for asylum in Mexico. That would be so fun!

Asylum seekers are different. These illegals simply snuck over the border.

Amazing how not a single liberal agrees that these DACA adults should show appreciation, and not one liberal is willing to condemn their belligerent behavior. Seems like standards of conduct are pretty low, as long as you're here illegally. Another example of the upside down values of liberals.

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Anonymous wrote:This will not be PC to the liberals, but these Dreamers need to KNOW THEIR PLACE. Their parents snuck them in illegally, and they have been permitted to remain here and get a free K-12 education, thanks to to the good graces of Americans. Instead of showing appropriate appreciation - yes, appreciation! - this group of people, who graduate from college at a lower rate than Americans, showed nothing but disrespect and venom toward the very congressperson who is fighting on their behalf.

They came across as spoiled brats. I would suggest they organize themselves and elect a spokesperson, who should then write a letter to Congress thanking Americans for their generosity thus far and expressing appreciation for any forthcoming consideration on their behalf. They should include a mention of the wonderful opportunities they have been given here and pledge to be responsible, contributing members of society.

That works much better than saying " you f'ing a-holes better let us stay here, along with our parents!"

Where are you ancestors from, PP? Maybe they are from a shithole country and you need to know your place too.

See, I can be non PC too.

You liberal idiots can be so dense. They need to know their place because they are not here legally. They are GUESTS and need to show appreciation.

I on the other hand am descended from people who followed the law in immigrating (from 1st world countries) and thus I am a citizen, as were they. Illegals and citizens are not the same, and liberals need to understand that their deranged insistence that illegals are every bit as entitled to be here as citizens is what cost them the election.

By following the law, you mean "boarded a ship and were let in unless they were diseased".

Whatever the law was, they followed. One ancestor did not meet medical requirements and had to remain in Europe. There were laws, and they abided by them.

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Anonymous wrote:This will not be PC to the liberals, but these Dreamers need to KNOW THEIR PLACE. Their parents snuck them in illegally, and they have been permitted to remain here and get a free K-12 education, thanks to to the good graces of Americans. Instead of showing appropriate appreciation - yes, appreciation! - this group of people, who graduate from college at a lower rate than Americans, showed nothing but disrespect and venom toward the very congressperson who is fighting on their behalf.

They came across as spoiled brats. I would suggest they organize themselves and elect a spokesperson, who should then write a letter to Congress thanking Americans for their generosity thus far and expressing appreciation for any forthcoming consideration on their behalf. They should include a mention of the wonderful opportunities they have been given here and pledge to be responsible, contributing members of society.

That works much better than saying " you f'ing a-holes better let us stay here, along with our parents!"

Where are you ancestors from, PP? Maybe they are from a shithole country and you need to know your place too.

See, I can be non PC too.

You liberal idiots can be so dense. They need to know their place because they are not here legally. They are GUESTS and need to show appreciation.

I on the other hand am descended from people who followed the law in immigrating (from 1st world countries) and thus I am a citizen, as were they. Illegals and citizens are not the same, and liberals need to understand that their deranged insistence that illegals are every bit as entitled to be here as citizens is what cost them the election.

By following the law, you mean "boarded a ship and were let in unless they were diseased".

Whatever the law was, they followed. One ancestor did not meet medical requirements and had to remain in Europe. There were laws, and they abided by them.

+1 to your relatives for following all the rules PP! Wish others could say the same

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

They got CHIP for six years. It's not everything, but it's sure not nothing.

Much more important to get funding for poor American children than an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. The latter can wait. Contrary to the alarm bells Schumer is sounding, nobody is waiting in the wings to deport them.

Tell that to the guy in Detroit who just got deported, leaving his wife and kids behind or the 40 year veteran polish doctor who was deported yesterday.

They're not DACA adults. They'll illegals so no protection. I'm talking about DACA.

I kinda hope stuff like The Day After Tomorrow happens, so then you have to beg for asylum in Mexico. That would be so fun!

Asylum seekers are different. These illegals simply snuck over the border.

Amazing how not a single liberal agrees that these DACA adults should show appreciation, and not one liberal is willing to condemn their belligerent behavior. Seems like standards of conduct are pretty low, as long as you're here illegally. Another example of the upside down values of liberals.

What, exactly, are you asking for when you say "show appreciation"? The Dreamers had a strict set of rules they had to adhere to in order to stay. Do you think there should be additional rules placed on them for gratitude?

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

They got CHIP for six years. It's not everything, but it's sure not nothing.

Much more important to get funding for poor American children than an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. The latter can wait. Contrary to the alarm bells Schumer is sounding, nobody is waiting in the wings to deport them.

Tell that to the guy in Detroit who just got deported, leaving his wife and kids behind or the 40 year veteran polish doctor who was deported yesterday.

They're not DACA adults. They'll illegals so no protection. I'm talking about DACA.

I kinda hope stuff like The Day After Tomorrow happens, so then you have to beg for asylum in Mexico. That would be so fun!

Asylum seekers are different. These illegals simply snuck over the border.

Amazing how not a single liberal agrees that these DACA adults should show appreciation, and not one liberal is willing to condemn their belligerent behavior. Seems like standards of conduct are pretty low, as long as you're here illegally. Another example of the upside down values of liberals.

It's pretty impressive that you've talked to every liberal to come to your conclusions.

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Anonymous wrote:I would not celebrate anything until the 8th.

Don't forget the CHIP blackmail is gone.

Chuck can still shut down the government, Trumpkins.

Nope. McConnell clearly stated he would allow a vote ONLY IF the government was.open on Feb 8th. If the dems try another shutdown he's off the hook.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

They got CHIP for six years. It's not everything, but it's sure not nothing.

Much more important to get funding for poor American children than an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. The latter can wait. Contrary to the alarm bells Schumer is sounding, nobody is waiting in the wings to deport them.

The GOP has 111 days to renew funding for the “poor American children” you mention. The troll farm needs to up its game.

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Anonymous wrote:My prediction, Ryan won't bring a DACA vote.

Yup. McConnell didn’t promise Ryan would bring a vote, just himself. Clever, clever.

No assurance that Ryan will go along with anything that his caucus finds unacceptable and Trump could still veto anything that does not meet his requirements.

I can't see the Democrats wanting to link DACA to another shut down because ultimately it was an unwinnable situation: shut down the government affecting tens of millions of Americans to champion the cause of illegals.

The Republicans agreed to make this contingent on a vote on February 8th. They set things up for another shutdown.

Nope you've got it backwards. No vote UNLESS govt is OPEN on Feb 8.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

Wrong. They got automatic consideration of their Dreamer bill.

LOL ...... they need 60 votes in the Senate, the House has to approve anything the Senate passes and Trump may veto it if he does not like it. No DACA bill will pass without funding for the wall, dealing with chain migration and doing away with the diversity lottery.

Schumer has already conceded on all those issues.

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Anonymous wrote:This will not be PC to the liberals, but these Dreamers need to KNOW THEIR PLACE. Their parents snuck them in illegally, and they have been permitted to remain here and get a free K-12 education, thanks to to the good graces of Americans. Instead of showing appropriate appreciation - yes, appreciation! - this group of people, who graduate from college at a lower rate than Americans, showed nothing but disrespect and venom toward the very congressperson who is fighting on their behalf.

They came across as spoiled brats. I would suggest they organize themselves and elect a spokesperson, who should then write a letter to Congress thanking Americans for their generosity thus far and expressing appreciation for any forthcoming consideration on their behalf. They should include a mention of the wonderful opportunities they have been given here and pledge to be responsible, contributing members of society.

That works much better than saying " you f'ing a-holes better let us stay here, along with our parents!"

Where are you ancestors from, PP? Maybe they are from a shithole country and you need to know your place too.

See, I can be non PC too.

You liberal idiots can be so dense. They need to know their place because they are not here legally. They are GUESTS and need to show appreciation.

I on the other hand am descended from people who followed the law in immigrating (from 1st world countries) and thus I am a citizen, as were they. Illegals and citizens are not the same, and liberals need to understand that their deranged insistence that illegals are every bit as entitled to be here as citizens is what cost them the election.

By following the law, you mean "boarded a ship and were let in unless they were diseased".

Whatever the law was, they followed. One ancestor did not meet medical requirements and had to remain in Europe. There were laws, and they abided by them.

Ancestor? Really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

They got CHIP for six years. It's not everything, but it's sure not nothing.

Much more important to get funding for poor American children than an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. The latter can wait. Contrary to the alarm bells Schumer is sounding, nobody is waiting in the wings to deport them.

Tell that to the guy in Detroit who just got deported, leaving his wife and kids behind or the 40 year veteran polish doctor who was deported yesterday.

They're not DACA adults. They'll illegals so no protection. I'm talking about DACA.

I kinda hope stuff like The Day After Tomorrow happens, so then you have to beg for asylum in Mexico. That would be so fun!

Asylum seekers are different. These illegals simply snuck over the border.

Amazing how not a single liberal agrees that these DACA adults should show appreciation, and not one liberal is willing to condemn their belligerent behavior. Seems like standards of conduct are pretty low, as long as you're here illegally. Another example of the upside down values of liberals.

What makes you think Dreamers aren’t grateful? Or at least were grateful until they were told they would probably be deported! How do you suggest they show their gratitude in a way that would satisfy you?

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

Wrong. They got automatic consideration of their Dreamer bill.

LOL ...... they need 60 votes in the Senate, the House has to approve anything the Senate passes and Trump may veto it if he does not like it. No DACA bill will pass without funding for the wall, dealing with chain migration and doing away with the diversity lottery.

Schumer has already conceded on all those issues.

That is only the start. He will have to give up more. Suckers! Lol

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

They got CHIP for six years. It's not everything, but it's sure not nothing.

Much more important to get funding for poor American children than an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. The latter can wait. Contrary to the alarm bells Schumer is sounding, nobody is waiting in the wings to deport them.

Tell that to the guy in Detroit who just got deported, leaving his wife and kids behind or the 40 year veteran polish doctor who was deported yesterday.

They're not DACA adults. They'll illegals so no protection. I'm talking about DACA.

The doctor was a LPR. He had a green card. Think before you post.

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Anonymous wrote:Liberals got nothing. Chuck caved. LOL

They got CHIP for six years. It's not everything, but it's sure not nothing.

Much more important to get funding for poor American children than an amnesty bill for illegal immigrants. The latter can wait. Contrary to the alarm bells Schumer is sounding, nobody is waiting in the wings to deport them.

Tell that to the guy in Detroit who just got deported, leaving his wife and kids behind or the 40 year veteran polish doctor who was deported yesterday.

They don't vote.

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So as I see it, between now and Feb 8, McConnell effectively has three choices:

1. Negotiate a package deal with Dems that gives something for everyone. This would include a DACA fix, maybe other immigration reform, border security money, wall money for Trump, etc. Quite frankly, I don't see that there's enough time between now and Feb 8 to cobble together something that makes enough people happy to get this passed.

2. Allow a reasonable DACA fix to come up for a vote, as he promised today. If McConnell allows that, DACA passes. It will have 49 votes from Dems plus several votes from Republicans. I read that something like 56 or 57 Senators are already on record supporting a clean DACA fix.

3. Use a dirty trick to renege on his promise. There are a few ways he could do this. For example, he could refuse to let a clean DACA fix get a vote, and insist that it has to be dirtied up with Tea Party amendments that he knows won't pass. He could simply walk away from his promise and say there's more pressing business. If he does that though, he takes all the heat himself, and Trump will happily push blame on McConnell.

McConnell's no fool, so I suspect he'll do #2. DACA (DREAM Act) will pass the Senate.

So then the questions become:

1. Will Paul Ryan refuse to give a vote in the House? That's a lot harder to do if the Senate has passed it. I'm not sure Paul Ryan wants to become the face of anti-immigration. He's too invested in people liking him. Plus, a lot of Republican House members also want a clean DACA bill they can vote for.

2. If Ryan allows a vote in the House, and DACA passes there too, then the weight is on Trump to veto or not. I've got no idea what he'd do. He's too squishy to judge.