Is there anything better than marrying a rich guy you met in college?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Again, are you an actual adult? If the one and only objective in your life is to have the "best," in material goods and status and working little, then yes, marrying rich is a brilliant move.

But maybe there are plenty of happy, secure people who don't actually desire this.

I think there is a fallacy on this board that money = security for the rest of your life. That's not true. Money gives you the illusion of security, which for many people, is enough. But money cannot protect you from everything, including depression or unhappiness. Nor will money secure your children for the rest of their lives. Even with huge sums of money you can still lose that money, get sick, die, get divorced, raise screwed up kids, raise kids who lose all that money you wanted so much. It happens and it has happened to people who are smarter and nicer and more attractive than you or me. You might say "oh, but money makes all of those worst-case scenarios less likely," or "I'd rather have a problem WITH money than without it." Ok, sure, but wouldn't you rather just not have problems?

I make an average income, but I don't have a shit-ton of problems in my life. I definitely have problems, but they're problems I can handle. And you know what? That's enough. I don't need a luxury yacht, or trips to Europe, or fancy schools for my kids.

You know what money can't buy? Time. You have a finite time on this Earth, and you are wasting it on stupid shit like fantasizing about your rich friend and how she has it better than you.
I'm going to enjoy what I have instead of wasting my time.

x1000

It's just ridiculous that you can type it with a straight face and assume others will believe you. One of the great advantages of money is to buy time by paying others to do tedious, stupid, time-consuming stuff. Like cleaning, cooking, driving, picking up dry cleaning, doing your research, booking your travel etc. Why do you think CEOs have assistants? To free up their time for other stuff. So yes, money can buy time.

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I don't really understand your argument. Instead of spending your time getting your shit done without complaining, are you saying it would be better to fantasize and envy the .001% of people on the planet who have enough money to avoid basic chores? I don't like cleaning that much either, but I don't really think it is ruining my quality of life. It is just something I have to do, like brushing my teeth or using the bathroom. I have a relative who earns 300k a year and doesn't hire out a single task that she can physically accomplish - not cooking, not cleaning, not yard work. She even sews and mends her own clothes. What's going on there? Is she miserable or stupid or wasting her time? No, basic chores are not as unbearable as some of the giant babies on this board would have you believe. She just bakes in tidying up and cooking her food into her day. She LIKES cooking and sewing. They are just part of life. Work is part of life, and there is NO REASON to be miserable about it.

By the way, I do not vote Republican. I don't envy the rich, but they are also siphoning the wealth out of our country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'll have to let my best friend who is a pediatric oncologist and who saves babies who have cancer know that she's actually a failure compared to a former sorority girl who lives in a big house.

I'll have to let my sister who recently won a Fulbright scholarship know that she's also a failure because she's not a former sorority girl who lives in a big house.

I'll have to let my friend who runs a nonprofit for children with disabilities know as well.

I'll make sure to let them know that you think they are abject failures who have made poor decisions and are wasting their lives. I'm sure they will have some interesting opinions on that subject.

End of the day every woman wants to be rich, beautiful home, exotic travel, nice car, summer home, best schools for kids, best health care. Those you described worked their asses off and might still be miserable because they don’t make as much as a cute ditz married to a car dealer heir.

You do know that with auto manufacturers moving to direct sales and the advent of autonomous vehicles the days of the dealer are numbered. What’s the backup plan?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I live in the intellectual DC world. You live in a crasser, stupider world.

LOL. My husband is in the "intellectual" DC world. I work a corporate job. I've never seen a bunch of pettier, pickier whores who kiss a mind-numbing yardage of ass for this next fellowship, this next TV appearance, this next column. They are like spiders in a jar, legends in their own mind in polyester suits. It's very funny to watch how their opinions (because that's what they sell) get tweaked ever so slightly to ensure they remain callable and bookable. It's amusing to watch how they grovel before donors and foundations. They are just as crass as anyone but more pathetic because the stakes are so low.

So perfect. I wouldn't want to be a rich housewife in flyover country, because I'm somebody. No, you're not.

[Anonymous]

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You do know that with auto manufacturers moving to direct sales and the advent of autonomous vehicles the days of the dealer are numbered. What’s the backup plan?

Way to be hyper-literal -- OP didn't say marry a car dealership heir.

But I'll bite. Auto manufacturers would have to buy out dealers, then the commercial land the dealerships are on (which is probably owned outright if this is a multi-gen dealer family) will be sold for mega millions. Now they're liquid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Again, are you an actual adult? If the one and only objective in your life is to have the "best," in material goods and status and working little, then yes, marrying rich is a brilliant move.

But maybe there are plenty of happy, secure people who don't actually desire this.

I think there is a fallacy on this board that money = security for the rest of your life. That's not true. Money gives you the illusion of security, which for many people, is enough. But money cannot protect you from everything, including depression or unhappiness. Nor will money secure your children for the rest of their lives. Even with huge sums of money you can still lose that money, get sick, die, get divorced, raise screwed up kids, raise kids who lose all that money you wanted so much. It happens and it has happened to people who are smarter and nicer and more attractive than you or me. You might say "oh, but money makes all of those worst-case scenarios less likely," or "I'd rather have a problem WITH money than without it." Ok, sure, but wouldn't you rather just not have problems?

I make an average income, but I don't have a shit-ton of problems in my life. I definitely have problems, but they're problems I can handle. And you know what? That's enough. I don't need a luxury yacht, or trips to Europe, or fancy schools for my kids.

You know what money can't buy? Time. You have a finite time on this Earth, and you are wasting it on stupid shit like fantasizing about your rich friend and how she has it better than you.
I'm going to enjoy what I have instead of wasting my time.

x1000

It's just ridiculous that you can type it with a straight face and assume others will believe you. One of the great advantages of money is to buy time by paying others to do tedious, stupid, time-consuming stuff. Like cleaning, cooking, driving, picking up dry cleaning, doing your research, booking your travel etc. Why do you think CEOs have assistants? To free up their time for other stuff. So yes, money can buy time.

**


I don't really understand your argument. Instead of spending your time getting your shit done without complaining, are you saying it would be better to fantasize and envy the .001% of people on the planet who have enough money to avoid basic chores? I don't like cleaning that much either, but I don't really think it is ruining my quality of life. It is just something I have to do, like brushing my teeth or using the bathroom. I have a relative who earns 300k a year and doesn't hire out a single task that she can physically accomplish - not cooking, not cleaning, not yard work. She even sews and mends her own clothes. What's going on there? Is she miserable or stupid or wasting her time? No, basic chores are not as unbearable as some of the giant babies on this board would have you believe. She just bakes in tidying up and cooking her food into her day. She LIKES cooking and sewing. They are just part of life. Work is part of life, and there is NO REASON to be miserable about it.

By the way, I do not vote Republican. I don't envy the rich, but they are also siphoning the wealth out of our country.

OK. You don't understand my argument. (Actually, you do but let's pretend that you don't). Let's put it in simple terms.

My house takes about 4 hours to clean top to bottom. Every two weeks, I pay a crew of people to do this while I do other things I like better. There, I've just bought four hours of time. No, cleaning isn't anything I HAVE to do. I can't pay people to use the bathroom for me. But I certainly can, and do, pay them to clean it for me.

No one cares about what you like or what you think ruins a quality of your life. No one cares about your relative either. Nothing you said negates a basic truth that you can buy time by paying other people to do things you don't like that would otherwise occupy your time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Person I never in a million years would be envious of:
Woman who left NYC at 27 to marry into a midwest car dealer family and live in a giant lake house and drive a new SUV.

+ high community status
+ best private schools
+ travel anywhere
+ in-laws' winter home in Naples, FL
+ in-laws' ski house in Vail, CO

Not a bad come up for a cute ditz who studied communications at a crummy college.

It's pretty funny that you think the best private schools are in flyover country.

[Anonymous]

I divorced a wealthy douchebsg after 7monthz into marriage, after 3yrs married my DH, a super intelligent, self made man. We both work and have an awesome UMC life. There are few things I hate more than compromising my self respect for free money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Person I never in a million years would be envious of:
Woman who left NYC at 27 to marry into a midwest car dealer family and live in a giant lake house and drive a new SUV.

+ high community status
+ best private schools
+ travel anywhere
+ in-laws' winter home in Naples, FL
+ in-laws' ski house in Vail, CO

Not a bad come up for a cute ditz who studied communications at a crummy college.

It's pretty funny that you think the best private schools are in flyover country.

Yeah a flyover state day school is no match for DC’s Wilson. LOL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Again, are you an actual adult? If the one and only objective in your life is to have the "best," in material goods and status and working little, then yes, marrying rich is a brilliant move.

But maybe there are plenty of happy, secure people who don't actually desire this.

I think there is a fallacy on this board that money = security for the rest of your life. That's not true. Money gives you the illusion of security, which for many people, is enough. But money cannot protect you from everything, including depression or unhappiness. Nor will money secure your children for the rest of their lives. Even with huge sums of money you can still lose that money, get sick, die, get divorced, raise screwed up kids, raise kids who lose all that money you wanted so much. It happens and it has happened to people who are smarter and nicer and more attractive than you or me. You might say "oh, but money makes all of those worst-case scenarios less likely," or "I'd rather have a problem WITH money than without it." Ok, sure, but wouldn't you rather just not have problems?

I make an average income, but I don't have a shit-ton of problems in my life. I definitely have problems, but they're problems I can handle. And you know what? That's enough. I don't need a luxury yacht, or trips to Europe, or fancy schools for my kids.

You know what money can't buy? Time. You have a finite time on this Earth, and you are wasting it on stupid shit like fantasizing about your rich friend and how she has it better than you.
I'm going to enjoy what I have instead of wasting my time.

x1000

It's just ridiculous that you can type it with a straight face and assume others will believe you. One of the great advantages of money is to buy time by paying others to do tedious, stupid, time-consuming stuff. Like cleaning, cooking, driving, picking up dry cleaning, doing your research, booking your travel etc. Why do you think CEOs have assistants? To free up their time for other stuff. So yes, money can buy time.

**


I don't really understand your argument. Instead of spending your time getting your shit done without complaining, are you saying it would be better to fantasize and envy the .001% of people on the planet who have enough money to avoid basic chores? I don't like cleaning that much either, but I don't really think it is ruining my quality of life. It is just something I have to do, like brushing my teeth or using the bathroom. I have a relative who earns 300k a year and doesn't hire out a single task that she can physically accomplish - not cooking, not cleaning, not yard work. She even sews and mends her own clothes. What's going on there? Is she miserable or stupid or wasting her time? No, basic chores are not as unbearable as some of the giant babies on this board would have you believe. She just bakes in tidying up and cooking her food into her day. She LIKES cooking and sewing. They are just part of life. Work is part of life, and there is NO REASON to be miserable about it.

By the way, I do not vote Republican. I don't envy the rich, but they are also siphoning the wealth out of our country.

OK. You don't understand my argument. (Actually, you do but let's pretend that you don't). Let's put it in simple terms.

My house takes about 4 hours to clean top to bottom. Every two weeks, I pay a crew of people to do this while I do other things I like better. There, I've just bought four hours of time. No, cleaning isn't anything I HAVE to do. I can't pay people to use the bathroom for me. But I certainly can, and do, pay them to clean it for me.

No one cares about what you like or what you think ruins a quality of your life. No one cares about your relative either. Nothing you said negates a basic truth that you can buy time by paying other people to do things you don't like that would otherwise occupy your time.

I think you missed my larger point, which was that it doesn’t really matter how much money you have. The time you waste comparing yourself to others or trying to convince other people that money is the end all and be all is time wasted. You may be able to pay for a cleaning lady, but you then waste your precious time arguing with strangers on a silly website. So you think that you “bought” time, but all you did was waste the time you bought. People think that what money buys them is freedom, but you can never be free from yourself. That middle class person who has to cook her own food and clean her own house and do other things you find oppressive may be gaining something you’re not aware of. It feels like our culture worships money to the point where people think they are literally living a fuller life and “making time” because they can finally afford a cleaning lady. Please. This is pathetic. I know a lot of rich people, and the ones living fulfilling lives would still be fulfilled without oodles of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I think you missed my larger point, which was that it doesn’t really matter how much money you have. The time you waste comparing yourself to others or trying to convince other people that money is the end all and be all is time wasted. You may be able to pay for a cleaning lady, but you then waste your precious time arguing with strangers on a silly website. So you think that you “bought” time, but all you did was waste the time you bought. People think that what money buys them is freedom, but you can never be free from yourself. That middle class person who has to cook her own food and clean her own house and do other things you find oppressive may be gaining something you’re not aware of. It feels like our culture worships money to the point where people think they are literally living a fuller life and “making time” because they can finally afford a cleaning lady. Please. This is pathetic. I know a lot of rich people, and the ones living fulfilling lives would still be fulfilled without oodles of money.

No one cares about your personal philosophy or meaning of your life. You said money can't buy time and it is obviously untrue. You've been caught saying silly things so you're trying to weasel out of it by pretending it's all pointless anyway.

You're amazingly sheltered and dumb if you think it doesn't matter how much money you have. No one whose child can't afford medical treatment would ever say that. No one who ever spent a night in the shelter would ever say that. No one who can't buy a winter coat or meat dinner for their child would ever say that.

Dumb.

[Anonymous]

Penning 500-600 word responses on how money or a rich husband doesn’t matter SCREAMS bitter cat lady.

[Anonymous]

The threads about women who marry rich guys always get the most impassioned responses on here for some reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think you missed my larger point, which was that it doesn’t really matter how much money you have. The time you waste comparing yourself to others or trying to convince other people that money is the end all and be all is time wasted. You may be able to pay for a cleaning lady, but you then waste your precious time arguing with strangers on a silly website. So you think that you “bought” time, but all you did was waste the time you bought. People think that what money buys them is freedom, but you can never be free from yourself. That middle class person who has to cook her own food and clean her own house and do other things you find oppressive may be gaining something you’re not aware of. It feels like our culture worships money to the point where people think they are literally living a fuller life and “making time” because they can finally afford a cleaning lady. Please. This is pathetic. I know a lot of rich people, and the ones living fulfilling lives would still be fulfilled without oodles of money.

No one cares about your personal philosophy or meaning of your life. You said money can't buy time and it is obviously untrue. You've been caught saying silly things so you're trying to weasel out of it by pretending it's all pointless anyway.

You're amazingly sheltered and dumb if you think it doesn't matter how much money you have. No one whose child can't afford medical treatment would ever say that. No one who ever spent a night in the shelter would ever say that. No one who can't buy a winter coat or meat dinner for their child would ever say that.

Dumb.

I think it’s really interesting that you are being so rude and aggressive over something so silly. I’m not really interested in reading or responding to you as a result . But you’ve kind of revealed some things about yourself , and it’s not good. Perhaps I hit a nerve and something is bothering you in your life? Fix it instead of being nasty on the internet.

[Anonymous]

I think it would be better to become very successful after college and marry a guy you love.

[Anonymous]

I guess we all wish the 'one' could be financially blessed as well. Money doesn't improve misery but it makes things easier in general. No shame in admitting that. But I agree with PPs that driving luxury SUV is not my fantasy. I like nice clothes but the attention that a car can bring is not what I want.