Why is abortion such a personal issue for most women?

[Anonymous]

Why wouldn't it be?

[Anonymous]

I was raped in college and got pregnant and I had no money and considered killing myself because I was too ashamed to tell my parents. I walked around in a daze for weeks trying to figure out where I would run away to, or how I would kill myself, how I prayed and wished that baby would go away and finally miscarried. Never in my life would I wish what I went through on anyone. Ever. Fuck you "pro-life" people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If abortion was made illegal except for cases due to life of mother or life of baby, whose life would be more important? If carrying the baby to term will kill the mother, but save the baby- whose life do you save?

Would like to see an answer to this.

Also, making abortion illegal won't end abortion, it will just end (relatively) safe abortions with medical oversight. People have been finding ways to end unwanted, unsustainable, and/or dangerous pregnancies for most of recorded history, it just used to involve dangerous or unsanitary methods that often ended in a loss of the parent as well as of the fetus... for those who believe the fetus is already a human life, that's two lives lost rather than one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was raped in college and got pregnant and I had no money and considered killing myself because I was too ashamed to tell my parents. I walked around in a daze for weeks trying to figure out where I would run away to, or how I would kill myself, how I prayed and wished that baby would go away and finally miscarried. Never in my life would I wish what I went through on anyone. Ever. Fuck you "pro-life" people.

I'm so sorry PP.

And yes, fuck them.

[Anonymous]

Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:

When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.

When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.

When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.

The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.

That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"

Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"

I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?

Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:

When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.

When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.

When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.

The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.

That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"

Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"

I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?

Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.

Look, I get all those points, and women making choice to terminate pregnancy don't do it lightly. It always a struggle.
Also, until that fetus cannot survive outside of the woman's body - it is part of that body.
Just my 2 c

[Anonymous]

http://www.marchforlife.org

has excellent tips about getting there on the metro and exactly where to go and detailed schedule of events.

Also, dress in layers and wear boots, as the mall can be muddy.

"My rights stop where your rights start,
whether you're born or not."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:

When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.

When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.

When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.

The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.

That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"

Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"

I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?

Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.

The vast majority of abortions take place between 4-8 weeks of pregnancy when that is not the case. Sometimes there's not even a heartbeat yet in which case you're simply terminating a fertilized egg. Look, that's just science. For later term (12-20 week) abortions I have to assume there is some extenuating circumstance that made an abortion necessary. Is it unfortunate, sure. I take umbrage with this idea that any woman who has an abortion does it lightly with no emotional impact. By it's kind of like divorce: it's painful, it's not ideal, but for the good of everyone in the family it needs to happen sometimes. I wish no woman ever felt she needed an abortion. In a perfect world we would have tons of support for pregnancy and child raising but we as a country do not and many women individually do not. So it's not my place to say what they should do and that is why I'm pro choice.

It's a hard choice for most women and not undertaken breezily or happily. I think this is where the pro life argument always fails. You assume that because women are glad they have the choice that they're glad to make this choice.

[Anonymous]

My thoughts are also about the baby who can often be just fine if allowed to live without the mother. Why are these babies still aborted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My thoughts are also about the baby who can often be just fine if allowed to live without the mother. Why are these babies still aborted?

This doesn't happen. A baby is viable--able to live outside of the mother's body--around 24-26 weeks. No one is aborting babies that would be able to live by themselves. In the extreme (and extremely rare) case of a late-term abortion, it is because the baby will not live.

This story is eye-opening: jezebel.com/interview-with-a-woman-who-recently-had-an-abortion-at-1781972395/amp?

Here's more about so-called "partial birth abortions": https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbes.com/sites/tarahaelle/2016/10/20/no-late-term-abortions-dont-rip-babies-out-of-wombs-but-they-are-needed/?client=safari

If you don't read that second link: it takes Trump's argument that abortions can "rip a baby from its mother's womb in the ninth month, even on the last day." That's called a cesarean section. It's how my very wanted and very healthy DS as born. Abortions don't happen that way.

[Anonymous]

Lots of street closures today downtown for the March For Life. Best to do Metro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:

When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.

When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.

When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.

The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.

That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"

Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"

I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?

Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.

Look, I get all those points, and women making choice to terminate pregnancy don't do it lightly. It always a struggle.
Also, until that fetus cannot survive outside of the woman's body - it is part of that body.
Just my 2 c

Some actually don't think much about how many abortions they have. My kid worked for a lobbyist who had three. What's one more?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My thoughts are also about the baby who can often be just fine if allowed to live without the mother. Why are these babies still aborted?

This. Never. Happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:

When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.

When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.

When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.

The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.

That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"

Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"

I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?

Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.

Look, I get all those points, and women making choice to terminate pregnancy don't do it lightly. It always a struggle.
Also, until that fetus cannot survive outside of the woman's body - it is part of that body.
Just my 2 c

Some actually don't think much about how many abortions they have. My kid worked for a lobbyist who had three. What's one more?

Some people are morons and some are child abusers who shouldn't have kids

There are also some with high fertility when birth control doesn't work. I knew a woman like that - after 3 kids and couple of abortions she had to get her tubes tied.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If abortion was made illegal except for cases due to life of mother or life of baby, whose life would be more important? If carrying the baby to term will kill the mother, but save the baby- whose life do you save?

Catholics will save the baby. The mom has presumably been baptized and is therefore OK. The baby has not been baptized, and needs to be born so that it can be baptized.