Why is abortion such a personal issue for most women?

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Anonymous wrote:That's untrue. A baby goes to heaven in the Catholic Church.

As a Catholic I do not believe this is true. Babies need to be baptized to go to heaven.

This is why your church gets so much well deserved sh*t

Exactly. That is some messed up sh1t.

Yup. I baptized babies go to Limbo. Not Hell, but not Heaven either. They lost me not too long after I learned that in CCD.

I think the dogma on this point changed recently. Look it up.

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Anonymous wrote:That's untrue. A baby goes to heaven in the Catholic Church.

As a Catholic I do not believe this is true. Babies need to be baptized to go to heaven.

This is why your church gets so much well deserved sh*t

Exactly. That is some messed up sh1t.

Yup. I baptized babies go to Limbo. Not Hell, but not Heaven either. They lost me not too long after I learned that in CCD.

I think the dogma on this point changed recently. Look it up.

Okay, did the Flying Spaghetti Monster whisper the truth to the latest pope or something? Way too little, way too late.

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Either pay now (abortion) or pay later (welfare); pick your poison.

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Anonymous wrote:Either pay now (abortion) or pay later (welfare); pick your poison.

Taxpayers don't pay for anyone's abortion.

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Anonymous wrote:Either pay now (abortion) or pay later (welfare); pick your poison.

Taxpayers don't pay for anyone's abortion.

You would think if they cared enough about this issue to take a stand they would bother to know this
Either the woman pays on a scale or it comes from the clinic's budget to provide those services. Hyde Amendment. Google it. Live it. Love it. You literally have zero standing on this issue since it's not your body OR your money.

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So my questions is: do you think all those white middle class Christians would care so much if it weren't young, white, healthy women having the majority of abortions? I bet they wished we could go back to the time when there were homes for unwed mothers, where the young mothers were coerced or forced to give up their babies to be redistributed to "good Christian homes." That's why I have a problem with this. I don't believe for one minute that this isn't what this has always been about. They need the numbers. The white Christian demographic is in decline, and they're looking to get their numbers back up. No birth control or abortions to help them build their army.

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George Carlin is spot on.

"Pro-life" had (obviously) nothing to do with caring about human lives. It's helps keep class, and economic interests in check. It's not about the sanctity of live, but enabling a cycle in which some benefit off of the living poor (in addition to the slut shaming of women, of course).

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Anonymous wrote:Here's what I don't understand about the pro-choice talking points, coming from someone who has no particular religious beliefs:

When I see a fetus, I know it looks like a baby. It has a head, a torso, arms, etc.

When I'm pregnant, I can feel the fetus. That isn't a ghost kicking me.

When I look at a sonogram, I know I'm looking at life. A heartbeat. Bodily organs that will never be mine.

The pro-choice movement would have me believe that it's all about "my body, my choice." I agree with that, so I exert control over my body...my hair, my teeth, my fingernails, etc.

That fetus inside of me that looks like a baby, acts like a baby, and will eventually be a baby...why do you believe that it's just "part of my body?"

Yeah, I get that it's growing in me, and yeah, I get that it's dependent on me, but it's still something separate from. That fetus will always have separate DNA from me. How do I justify that my fetus with its own DNA is just "part of my body?"

I appreciate the desire for independent liberty and bodily autonomy, but why should a fetus with its own DNA, its own organs, its own veins, etc. have no rights, and no liberty?

Ironic to me that in many jurisdictions, a pregnant woman's killing will result in 2 counts of murder. I guess that's because it was assumed that any mother carrying a baby wanted that life to live, so we are supposed to mourn, and the law provides justice for mother and the unborn life. However, the minute that the mother decides she doesn't want the baby, we're supposed to support her decision to terminate, and not emote. I don't get that at all.

Look, I get all those points, and women making choice to terminate pregnancy don't do it lightly. It always a struggle.
Also, until that fetus cannot survive outside of the woman's body - it is part of that body.
Just my 2 c

Some actually don't think much about how many abortions they have. My kid worked for a lobbyist who had three. What's one more?

False. Why on earth would someone tell their intern such personal information?

Do you really think you speak for every woman? Here's a little secret for you. You don't.

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Anonymous wrote:So my questions is: do you think all those white middle class Christians would care so much if it weren't young, white, healthy women having the majority of abortions? I bet they wished we could go back to the time when there were homes for unwed mothers, where the young mothers were coerced or forced to give up their babies to be redistributed to "good Christian homes." That's why I have a problem with this. I don't believe for one minute that this isn't what this has always been about. They need the numbers. The white Christian demographic is in decline, and they're looking to get their numbers back up. No birth control or abortions to help them build their army.

why no birth control?
Do their superstitions tell them birth control brings bad luck?

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Some actually don't think much about how many abortions they have. My kid worked for a lobbyist who had three. What's one more?

False. Why on earth would someone tell their intern such personal information?

Do you really think you speak for every woman? Here's a little secret for you. You don't.

It beggars belief that your kid worked for someone who casually tossed off the info that she's had three abortions. My guess? Your child heard office gossip and you believe it.

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Anonymous wrote:So my questions is: do you think all those white middle class Christians would care so much if it weren't young, white, healthy women having the majority of abortions? I bet they wished we could go back to the time when there were homes for unwed mothers, where the young mothers were coerced or forced to give up their babies to be redistributed to "good Christian homes." That's why I have a problem with this. I don't believe for one minute that this isn't what this has always been about. They need the numbers. The white Christian demographic is in decline, and they're looking to get their numbers back up. No birth control or abortions to help them build their army.

why no birth control?
Do their superstitions tell them birth control brings bad luck?

No, they want more white Christian babies to be born, so that is why they don't like birth control. They don't care about anything other than numbers. They want women to be pumping out as many babies as physically possible. Even if it drives her crazy and results in her drowning all her children in a bathtub.