Betsy DeVos and Vouchers - Yes!!!

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Anonymous wrote:^^^^ DCPS troll.

Why would DCPS care, get real

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Anonymous wrote:Read this, everyone: https://www.brookings.edu/research/on-negative-effects-of-vouchers/

Increased school choice is probably coming to DC, but we should try to make sure it comes in the form of quality charters, not vouchers.

Read this it says " Recent research on statewide voucher programs in Louisiana and Indiana has found that public school students that received vouchers to attend private schools subsequently scored lower on reading and math tests compared to similar students that remained in public schools..."

The vouchers are coming, the vouchers are coming, the vouchers are coming ...

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Anonymous wrote:DeVos as Sec of Ed is the Republican and Trump strategy to keep the electorate un- or under-educated to help these fools get re-elected. It's not so much the economic divide that determined whether you voted for Trump or Clinton. It's the educational divide. The most uneducated counties voted overwhelmingly for Trump. It behooves the Republican party to dismantle public education.

+10000

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For the ignorant, school choice promotes property value because it's actually beneficial and what people want. Ask Bernie Sanders, he ought to know.

http://www.thevermontstandard.com/2015/10/school-choice-is-a-selling-point-in-real-estate-market/

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Anonymous wrote:For the ignorant, school choice promotes property value because it's actually beneficial and what people want. Ask Bernie Sanders, he ought to know.

http://www.thevermontstandard.com/2015/10/school-choice-is-a-selling-point-in-real-estate-market/

go away Breitbart troll. until you provide a detailed analysis, using facts, showing how vouchers are going to create more high quality schools in DC, nobody is listening.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't have to become Catholic but you do have to be fine with your kids being taught catholic doctrine and going to church in school.

Indian poster here. I do not mind all this if the overall education is top-notch in Catholic schools, and would enroll my child there in a heartbeat. However, the truth is that the quality of education is the at best the same as a public school and precious instruction time will be wasted learning catholic doctrine and going to church. So, it is not something that will find traction with someone like me who is education focused. I would be more than happy that the people who want to go to Catholic schools using vouchers go there instead of being in public schools.

We are still a democracy and not a military dictatorship or a monarchy. This too shall pass in 4 years. However, my kids need to be well educated and be strong in all subjects, sports, extracurricular activities etc during these 4 years. So, we will continue to do what we have been doing all this while.

I have a kid in Catholic school. The school he attends has a longer day just FYI. He's in school 7 hours a day rather than 6 hours 25 minutes that our school district allows.

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Anonymous wrote:Indian poster again. I am fine with Islamic, Jewish, Buddhist and Hindu schools too. The more the merrier. The main point is that schools and curriculum in general suck here for K-12. Then people will bitch about that international students are being enrolled in the colleges and universities here. Well, duh! They are prepared and we are not.

It has nothing to do with preparation. Foreign students have to pay in full up front, no financial aid. Lots of foreign students aren't that well prepared.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't have to become Catholic but you do have to be fine with your kids being taught catholic doctrine and going to church in school.

Indian poster here. I do not mind all this if the overall education is top-notch in Catholic schools, and would enroll my child there in a heartbeat. However, the truth is that the quality of education is the at best the same as a public school and precious instruction time will be wasted learning catholic doctrine and going to church. So, it is not something that will find traction with someone like me who is education focused. I would be more than happy that the people who want to go to Catholic schools using vouchers go there instead of being in public schools.

We are still a democracy and not a military dictatorship or a monarchy. This too shall pass in 4 years. However, my kids need to be well educated and be strong in all subjects, sports, extracurricular activities etc during these 4 years. So, we will continue to do what we have been doing all this while.

I have a kid in Catholic school. The school he attends has a longer day just FYI. He's in school 7 hours a day rather than 6 hours 25 minutes that our school district allows.

Of course they need more hours, part of the day is spent learning religious doctrine.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't have to become Catholic but you do have to be fine with your kids being taught catholic doctrine and going to church in school.

Indian poster here. I do not mind all this if the overall education is top-notch in Catholic schools, and would enroll my child there in a heartbeat. However, the truth is that the quality of education is the at best the same as a public school and precious instruction time will be wasted learning catholic doctrine and going to church. So, it is not something that will find traction with someone like me who is education focused. I would be more than happy that the people who want to go to Catholic schools using vouchers go there instead of being in public schools.

We are still a democracy and not a military dictatorship or a monarchy. This too shall pass in 4 years. However, my kids need to be well educated and be strong in all subjects, sports, extracurricular activities etc during these 4 years. So, we will continue to do what we have been doing all this while.

I have a kid in Catholic school. The school he attends has a longer day just FYI. He's in school 7 hours a day rather than 6 hours 25 minutes that our school district allows.

Longer day doesn't mean better quality. Additionally it's been shown that Catholic schools are inferior to public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, you're poorly informed. DC has a school voucher program that is a miserable failure. Most of the students go to schools that are almost entirely voucher-funded and there is no accredation or accountability process for these voucher schools. The state of these schools is extremely bad. Vouchers will not fix the public education challenges in our city or in our country.

They go to parochial schools that cost less than $10,000, many of which are Blue Ribbon schools where kids learn a great deal in a safe environment. What's wrong with that? PP, you sound like a DCPS troll.

Really? Can you name some since folks on here will be needing to enroll their kids.

Also, you all need to become catholic.

BS, my lying friend

The market will open up to accommodate the voucher amount. Waterside Academy is within the range, and no one gets beat up there. Parochial schools that went out of business will restart. There will be privates that are reasonably priced,and parochials. And no, you don't have to be Catholic to be in a parochial school; sometimes the majority aren't and never become Catholic -> check your prejudice.

DC already has a voucher program and Catholic schools have closed anyway. You are being sold a lie.

Also Catholic schools have been shown to be worse academically than public schools. Let's also not forget how the church allowed children to be abused and then covered it up. http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2013/10/are-private-schools-worth-it/280693/

Agree

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Anonymous wrote:Read this, everyone: https://www.brookings.edu/research/on-negative-effects-of-vouchers/

Increased school choice is probably coming to DC, but we should try to make sure it comes in the form of quality charters, not vouchers.

PP, I have my facts straight. One fact is you're both ill-informed and specious. Don't tell me what's best for my family. I know it's vouchers and not DCPS. If you even have a family in this city, then say what's best for it. But I don't need to be told what's best for my family - and vouchers will allow me freedom to decide versus insensitive District bureaucrats who live in Maryland telling me what's best for my kids actually living in DC.

What's best for your kids could very well be homeschooling or going back to work to pay your own way into private.

I am happy to pay my fair share of taxes to benefit our public schools. Your snowflake getting a subsidized ride at a religious school, no, that is not okay.

Ha! Love this! Totally Agree.

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It's cute how you guys think you'd qualify for vouchers. Wouldn't it be income based?

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Anonymous wrote:It's cute how you guys think you'd qualify for vouchers. Wouldn't it be income based?

ding, ding, ding.
We have a winner.

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Anonymous wrote:For the ignorant, school choice promotes property value because it's actually beneficial and what people want. Ask Bernie Sanders, he ought to know.

http://www.thevermontstandard.com/2015/10/school-choice-is-a-selling-point-in-real-estate-market/

go away Breitbart troll. until you provide a detailed analysis, using facts, showing how vouchers are going to create more high quality schools in DC, nobody is listening.

Lady, you need to get back on your meds; I truly don't think you are well. Dissing on Catholic schools when you know nothing of the academic successes going on there is preposterous. Catholic schools in DC are getting US Dept. Ed. Blue Ribbons. Many are excelling well over any DCPS or charter in PARCC scores. The Vermont voucher system has been around for 100 plus years. I don't know anything about Breibart, but why don't you ask Bernie Sanders. The Vermont Standard is a long-standing county publication. You can check out too: http://www.vtindependentschools.org/tuition-vouchers.html

Long and short is that you should consider calming down and reflecting. Sock-puppeting on this issue at 3:00 AM leaves questions.

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Anonymous wrote:You don't have to become Catholic but you do have to be fine with your kids being taught catholic doctrine and going to church in school.

Indian poster here. I do not mind all this if the overall education is top-notch in Catholic schools, and would enroll my child there in a heartbeat. However, the truth is that the quality of education is the at best the same as a public school and precious instruction time will be wasted learning catholic doctrine and going to church. So, it is not something that will find traction with someone like me who is education focused. I would be more than happy that the people who want to go to Catholic schools using vouchers go there instead of being in public schools.

We are still a democracy and not a military dictatorship or a monarchy. This too shall pass in 4 years. However, my kids need to be well educated and be strong in all subjects, sports, extracurricular activities etc during these 4 years. So, we will continue to do what we have been doing all this while.

I have a kid in Catholic school. The school he attends has a longer day just FYI. He's in school 7 hours a day rather than 6 hours 25 minutes that our school district allows.[/quote

I'm guessing he goes to school fewer days than the kids in the local public school, though.