Sanders can't win the general election--why are people so blind to that?

[Anonymous]

This is too funny. Note what is on the T-shirt.


And, he wasn’t the only one. There is another young man with the same shirt who is blocked by HRC.
Doesn’t the campaign staff choose who is going to sit in these seats?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is the basic flaw in logic I see with many of Sanders' supporters. If the problem is money in politics, a near-oligarchy of big money and special interests, which was caused in large part (or at least greatly facilitated) by the Citizens United decision, then why don't Sanders' supporters think through how that decision came about. That decision is due to Republican-appointed justices on the Supreme Court. Republican presidents can do a lot of damage-- especially the lunatics leading the pack in this election. If you're so concerned about maintaining our democracy and protecting the social safety-net, why is defeating the Republican candidate not THE most important thing? The Supreme Court is almost evenly divided now, what would happen with another conservative justice? What would happen with a Republican-controlled Congress and president? If you think things are bad now, just wait and see. Democrats need to be much more pragmatic and strategic or else we are truly going to hell in a hand-basket.

If defeating the Republican candidate is the most important thing than supporting Sanders IS the best option. Sanders beats HRC head-to-head against the various Republican candidates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when people say Sanders is their first choice and Bloomberg is second. So if Bernie doesn't make it, you'll vote for a billionaire Wall Street guy?

Yep. Because they've been brainwashed by the Right's constant Hillary bashing for the last 25 years. Pathetic.

Saw on FB today that some undecided voter is torn between Sanders and Cruz...wtf? That sort of shit is emblematic of the power of manipulation. The Right succeeded in painting the most competent female presidential candidate as a She Devil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. This is the basic flaw in logic I see with many of Sanders' supporters. If the problem is money in politics, a near-oligarchy of big money and special interests, which was caused in large part (or at least greatly facilitated) by the Citizens United decision, then why don't Sanders' supporters think through how that decision came about. That decision is due to Republican-appointed justices on the Supreme Court. Republican presidents can do a lot of damage-- especially the lunatics leading the pack in this election. If you're so concerned about maintaining our democracy and protecting the social safety-net, why is defeating the Republican candidate not THE most important thing? The Supreme Court is almost evenly divided now, what would happen with another conservative justice? What would happen with a Republican-controlled Congress and president? If you think things are bad now, just wait and see. Democrats need to be much more pragmatic and strategic or else we are truly going to hell in a hand-basket.

If defeating the Republican candidate is the most important thing than supporting Sanders IS the best option. Sanders beats HRC head-to-head against the various Republican candidates.

PP, surely you know that head to head polls of theoretical D-R matchups are completely meaningless at this stage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when people say Sanders is their first choice and Bloomberg is second. So if Bernie doesn't make it, you'll vote for a billionaire Wall Street guy?

Yep. Because they've been brainwashed by the Right's constant Hillary bashing for the last 25 years. Pathetic.

Saw on FB today that some undecided voter is torn between Sanders and Cruz...wtf? That sort of shit is emblematic of the power of manipulation. The Right succeeded in painting the most competent female presidential candidate as a She Devil.

At the end of Bill Clinton presidency, I half started to believe the propoganda about the Clintons. ,then I saw them demonize Kerry and Obama. Sanders is going to be destroyed by them, there is no new material Hillary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when people say Sanders is their first choice and Bloomberg is second. So if Bernie doesn't make it, you'll vote for a billionaire Wall Street guy?

Yep. Because they've been brainwashed by the Right's constant Hillary bashing for the last 25 years. Pathetic.

Saw on FB today that some undecided voter is torn between Sanders and Cruz...wtf? That sort of shit is emblematic of the power of manipulation. The Right succeeded in painting the most competent female presidential candidate as a She Devil.

At the end of Bill Clinton presidency, I half started to believe the propoganda about the Clintons. ,then I saw them demonize Kerry and Obama. Sanders is going to be destroyed by them, there is no new material Hillary.

I'll admit, I'd be a reluctant Sanders voter, but can you imagine the dirt they could find and spin on him? And it'd all be so fresh, unlike all the old dirt they've tried on Clinton.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10:54, I'm sorry - you feel bullied by Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem? That seems kind of dramatic. Have you not encountered much adversity in life or something?

I feel like feminists are trying to bully me into voting for HRC solely because she is a woman. But sure just attack me personally ...that lessons that impression of bullying for sure

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when people say Sanders is their first choice and Bloomberg is second. So if Bernie doesn't make it, you'll vote for a billionaire Wall Street guy?

Yep. Because they've been brainwashed by the Right's constant Hillary bashing for the last 25 years. Pathetic.

Saw on FB today that some undecided voter is torn between Sanders and Cruz...wtf? That sort of shit is emblematic of the power of manipulation. The Right succeeded in painting the most competent female presidential candidate as a She Devil.

At the end of Bill Clinton presidency, I half started to believe the propoganda about the Clintons. ,then I saw them demonize Kerry and Obama. Sanders is going to be destroyed by them, there is no new material Hillary.

I'll admit, I'd be a reluctant Sanders voter, but can you imagine the dirt they could find and spin on him? And it'd all be so fresh, unlike all the old dirt they've tried on Clinton.

Let's guess what they'll dig up or straight up lie about.

Another out-of-wedlock hippie dippie love child? Too easy.

Drug fueled sex romps? Probably.

Secret luxury villa in the Caymans? Perhaps.

[Anonymous]

You do realize that although the Republicans may have done a number on Hillary, she has played a sizable role in making herself a target for attacks.

Seriously, she is totally tone deaf when it comes to understanding the ramifications of her actions. For a woman who is as intelligent as she is, she does the dumbest things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
PP, surely you know that head to head polls of theoretical D-R matchups are completely meaningless at this stage.

You are completely correct ......... however, that does not stop Hillary supporters from citing polls when they are favorable to her on the issue of electability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't understand when people say Sanders is their first choice and Bloomberg is second. So if Bernie doesn't make it, you'll vote for a billionaire Wall Street guy?

Yep. Because they've been brainwashed by the Right's constant Hillary bashing for the last 25 years. Pathetic.

Saw on FB today that some undecided voter is torn between Sanders and Cruz...wtf? That sort of shit is emblematic of the power of manipulation. The Right succeeded in painting the most competent female presidential candidate as a She Devil.

At the end of Bill Clinton presidency, I half started to believe the propoganda about the Clintons. ,then I saw them demonize Kerry and Obama. Sanders is going to be destroyed by them, there is no new material Hillary.

I'll admit, I'd be a reluctant Sanders voter, but can you imagine the dirt they could find and spin on him? And it'd all be so fresh, unlike all the old dirt they've tried on Clinton.

Let's guess what they'll dig up or straight up lie about.

Another out-of-wedlock hippie dippie love child? Too easy.

Drug fueled sex romps? Probably.

Secret luxury villa in the Caymans? Perhaps.

There's no need to lie or make stuff up. People in this country HATE socialism. I know that seems surmountable to people listening to their filtered social media feeds, their liberal blogs, their friends who have the same exact positions as them but that is the reality and even if you could change hearts and minds on such a massive scale, is that really going to happen by November? Look - I get voting for Sanders - even if it's just a protest vote, those are not totally worthless in a democracy. However, anyone who thinks he has any chance whatsoever in the general is in absolute and ridiculous denial. I almost hope he does get the nomination so that we can experience another landslide republican win like we had in the 80s with Reagan or with Nixon/McGovern. Not that I want a president trump or Cruz but it seems that a massive national drubbing every few decades is what ultra-liberals in this country demand for whatever reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
There's no need to lie or make stuff up. People in this country HATE socialism. I know that seems surmountable to people listening to their filtered social media feeds, their liberal blogs, their friends who have the same exact positions as them but that is the reality and even if you could change hearts and minds on such a massive scale, is that really going to happen by November? Look - I get voting for Sanders - even if it's just a protest vote, those are not totally worthless in a democracy. However, anyone who thinks he has any chance whatsoever in the general is in absolute and ridiculous denial. I almost hope he does get the nomination so that we can experience another landslide republican win like we had in the 80s with Reagan or with Nixon/McGovern. Not that I want a president trump or Cruz but it seems that a massive national drubbing every few decades is what ultra-liberals in this country demand for whatever reason.

Whatever became of the demographic advantages we enjoy with Hispanics, African-Americans and Asians? Are they all going to stay home if Sanders is the nominee? Are they going to vote Republican if Sanders is the nominee? I thought the presidency was assured for Democrats because the Republicans were not able to attract minorities.

Oh, I get it ....... they will only vote for Hillary!

[Anonymous]

So what?

So you think Sanders can't win? I don't care. I'm going to vote for Sanders anyway because I like his politics and policies.

When are you going to stop trying to shill Hillary to people who don't want to vote for her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:10:54, I'm sorry - you feel bullied by Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem? That seems kind of dramatic. Have you not encountered much adversity in life or something?

I feel like feminists are trying to bully me into voting for HRC solely because she is a woman. But sure just attack me personally ...that lessons that impression of bullying for sure

Stop trying to think honey. Just vote for the woman and shut your trap.

[Anonymous]

So, the reports are that Sanders is meeting with Al Sharpton tomorrow. Probably in an effort to gain more AA votes.
I have heard repeatedly on this board that Sharpton is not the “spokesperson” for the AA community.
So, why has Sanders chosen to meet with him?