Brutal Admissions Year!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

I just don't get why you think your kid is better than the other 30,000 comparable students with the same or better scores than your kid. Do you people realize there are just so many seats?

While I feel for your friend's son, you know that it's a crap shoot. No such thing as a 'feeder' school even if it's Exeter or Andover. Just so many seats are available. Period.

But he did not even get into Tufts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

Harvard has feeder schools?

It is a public school next to Harvard and sends a few there each year.

If that is the case, then it is probably the children of professors that got in- not the school. I went to a suburban Boston public and 23 out of our class of 625 went to Harvard- most for the same reason. I don't know if it is the same these days.

[Anonymous]

If your kid was wait listed at 8 schools and all his classmates with worse grades, less extracurricular got into the schools he applied, you would be fuming, knowing how spoiled you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

I just don't get why you think your kid is better than the other 30,000 comparable students with the same or better scores than your kid. Do you people realize there are just so many seats?

While I feel for your friend's son, you know that it's a crap shoot. No such thing as a 'feeder' school even if it's Exeter or Andover. Just so many seats are available. Period.

But he did not even get into Tufts.

You said he was at a school in Cambridge. Too close to Tufts,they want more regional diversity. He would have done better applying to western schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid was wait listed at 8 schools and all his classmates with worse grades, less extracurricular got into the schools he applied, you would be fuming, knowing how spoiled you are.

By you, I mean DCUMers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

But you didn't tell us where he did get in. There are many, many excellent schools in this country and he will do well wherever he goes. I know it must have been disappointing to not get into Harvard or any of his "top choice schools," but he sounds like the kind of kid who will excel anywhere, and who may actually shine at another school where he will be the big fish.

[Anonymous]

Those admission rates posted are so low for all those schools. Is is the same 30,000 students applying to all the same schools. How do colleges determine their yield rates with so many qualified students applying to do many of the same schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

I just don't get why you think your kid is better than the other 30,000 comparable students with the same or better scores than your kid. Do you people realize there are just so many seats?

While I feel for your friend's son, you know that it's a crap shoot. No such thing as a 'feeder' school even if it's Exeter or Andover. Just so many seats are available. Period.

But he did not even get into Tufts.

What do you mean even Tufts? Tufts ranks No. 27 and that ain't too shabby. It had 19,000 applicants with acceptances of 3,288.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

I just don't get why you think your kid is better than the other 30,000 comparable students with the same or better scores than your kid. Do you people realize there are just so many seats?

While I feel for your friend's son, you know that it's a crap shoot. No such thing as a 'feeder' school even if it's Exeter or Andover. Just so many seats are available. Period.

But he did not even get into Tufts.

What do you mean even Tufts? Tufts ranks No. 27 and that ain't too shabby. It had 19,000 applicants with acceptances of 3,288.

PP again. It sounds like your friend's son had a lot of competition from his "feeder" school for Harvard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

I just don't get why you think your kid is better than the other 30,000 comparable students with the same or better scores than your kid. Do you people realize there are just so many seats?

While I feel for your friend's son, you know that it's a crap shoot. No such thing as a 'feeder' school even if it's Exeter or Andover. Just so many seats are available. Period.

But he did not even get into Tufts.

You said he was at a school in Cambridge. Too close to Tufts,they want more regional diversity. He would have done better applying to western schools.

I agree with you. DC had local friends who applied to Georgetown and didn't get in but one did get into Northwestern and the other Pomona. I think there were just so many local kids applying that Georgetown probably had to draw the local applicant line somewhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those admission rates posted are so low for all those schools. Is is the same 30,000 students applying to all the same schools. How do colleges determine their yield rates with so many qualified students applying to do many of the same schools?

I'll bet you ten bucks that the bulk of the thousands are all the same kids applying to all the Ivys.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So why again is your child better than the other thousands and thousands who applied and those who got offers?

2014 Washington Post Article. The link is at the end.

Amherst College: 1,103 admission offers out of 8,468 applications, 13 percent.

Bowdoin College: 1,032 offers out of 6,935 apps, 15 percent.

Brown University: 2,619 offers out of 30,432 apps, 9 percent.

California Institute of Technology: 529 offers out of 6,524 apps, 8 percent.

Carleton College: 1,446 offers out of 6,293 apps, 23 percent.

Claremont McKenna College: 613 offers out of 6,043 apps, 10 percent.

Colgate University: 2,224 offers out of 8,713 apps, 26 percent.

Columbia University: 2,291 offers out of 32,967 apps, 7 percent.

Cornell University: 6,014 offers out of 43,041 apps, 14 percent.

Dartmouth College: 2,220 offers out of 19,296 apps, 12 percent.

Davidson College: 1,169 offers out of 5,558 apps, 21 percent.

Duke University: 3,499 offers out of 32,506 apps, 11 percent.

Emory University: 4,616 offers out of 17,797 apps, 26 percent.

Grinnell College: 1,626 offers out of 6,056 apps, 27 percent.

Hamilton College: 1,312 offers out of 5,071 apps, 26 percent.

Harvard University: 2,023 offers out of 34,295 apps, 6 percent.

Harvey Mudd College: 510 offers out of 3,678 apps, 14 percent. Note: Harvey Mudd’s figures are based on what it labels “actionable” applications, meaning those that are complete enough for the college to make a decision. Separately, it reports a higher figure for total apps. If that higher figure were used, its admission rate would be a percentage point lower.

Haverford College: no figures available yet.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology:1,419 offers out of 18,357 apps, 8 percent.

Middlebury College: 1,422 offers out of 8,196 apps, 17 percent.

Northwestern University: 4,349 offers out of 33,673 apps, 13 percent.

Pomona College: 938 offers out of 7,727 apps, 12 percent.

Princeton University: 1,939 offers out of 26,641 apps, 7 percent.

Rice University: 2,498 offers out of 17,720 apps, 14 percent.

Smith College: 1,802 offers out of 4,461 apps, 40 percent.

Stanford University: 2,138 offers out of 42,167 apps, 5 percent.

Swarthmore College: 930 offers out of 5,540 apps, 17 percent.

University of California at Berkeley: no figures available until April 18.

University of Chicago: 2,304 offers out of 27,503 apps, 8 percent.

University of Notre Dame: 3,720 offers out of 17,897 apps, 21 percent.

University of Pennsylvania: 3,583 offers out of 35,868 apps, 10 percent.

U.S. Military Academy: no figures available yet.

U.S. Naval Academy: no figures available yet.

Vanderbilt University: 3634 offers out of 29,490 apps, 12 percent.

Vassar College: 1,771 offers out of 7,784 apps, 23 percent.

Washington University in St. Louis: 5,002 offers out of 29,211 apps, 17 percent.

Wellesley College: 1,330 offers out of 4,710 apps, 28 percent.

Wesleyan University: 2,199 offers out of 9,477 apps, 23 percent.

Williams College: 1,150 offers out of 6,316 apps, 18 percent.

Yale University: 1,935 offers out of 30,932 apps, 6 percent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/college-admission-rates-for-class-of-2018-an-imperfect-but-closely-watched-metric/2014/04/03/820ff578-b6af-11e3-8cc3-d4bf596577eb_story.html

Were any of those kids given a seat over another because they were black or hispanic? If so, that's not really the equality everyone wants, now is it....

Holistic admissions is a euphemism for race balancing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got back from my kid's admitted student day at the college she chose. Lots of very pissed off parents asking about the admissions process during the Q/A with the admissions folks. All they kept repeating was they used a "holistic admissions process".

Ridiculous.

Why were they angry if their kids were admitted?

That is my question too.

Two reasons - this was Emory's Oxford campus - the admitted students to Oxford were pretty damn impressive and parents wanted to know why they were turned down at the main campus of Emory, i.e. how the admissions teams made their choices as to who got into the main campus, and who got into the satellite. I knew why re: my own kid - classes for her chosen major are considered more in-depth at this campus, she indicated she enjoyed smaller classes/good relationships with teachers, something Oxford delivers.

The admissions people were not really answering the questions to the parents' satisfaction - the parents felt they were using too many euphemisms and not enough specifics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

My sister's Asian exchange student is experiencing the same thing. Makes me so sad! Something is amiss. There is a scandal brewing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So why again is your child better than the other thousands and thousands who applied and those who got offers?

2014 Washington Post Article. The link is at the end.

Amherst College: 1,103 admission offers out of 8,468 applications, 13 percent.

Bowdoin College: 1,032 offers out of 6,935 apps, 15 percent.

Brown University: 2,619 offers out of 30,432 apps, 9 percent.

California Institute of Technology: 529 offers out of 6,524 apps, 8 percent.

Carleton College: 1,446 offers out of 6,293 apps, 23 percent.

Claremont McKenna College: 613 offers out of 6,043 apps, 10 percent.

Colgate University: 2,224 offers out of 8,713 apps, 26 percent.

Columbia University: 2,291 offers out of 32,967 apps, 7 percent.

Cornell University: 6,014 offers out of 43,041 apps, 14 percent.

Dartmouth College: 2,220 offers out of 19,296 apps, 12 percent.

Davidson College: 1,169 offers out of 5,558 apps, 21 percent.

Duke University: 3,499 offers out of 32,506 apps, 11 percent.

Emory University: 4,616 offers out of 17,797 apps, 26 percent.

Grinnell College: 1,626 offers out of 6,056 apps, 27 percent.

Hamilton College: 1,312 offers out of 5,071 apps, 26 percent.

Harvard University: 2,023 offers out of 34,295 apps, 6 percent.

Harvey Mudd College: 510 offers out of 3,678 apps, 14 percent. Note: Harvey Mudd’s figures are based on what it labels “actionable” applications, meaning those that are complete enough for the college to make a decision. Separately, it reports a higher figure for total apps. If that higher figure were used, its admission rate would be a percentage point lower.

Haverford College: no figures available yet.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology:1,419 offers out of 18,357 apps, 8 percent.

Middlebury College: 1,422 offers out of 8,196 apps, 17 percent.

Northwestern University: 4,349 offers out of 33,673 apps, 13 percent.

Pomona College: 938 offers out of 7,727 apps, 12 percent.

Princeton University: 1,939 offers out of 26,641 apps, 7 percent.

Rice University: 2,498 offers out of 17,720 apps, 14 percent.

Smith College: 1,802 offers out of 4,461 apps, 40 percent.

Stanford University: 2,138 offers out of 42,167 apps, 5 percent.

Swarthmore College: 930 offers out of 5,540 apps, 17 percent.

University of California at Berkeley: no figures available until April 18.

University of Chicago: 2,304 offers out of 27,503 apps, 8 percent.

University of Notre Dame: 3,720 offers out of 17,897 apps, 21 percent.

University of Pennsylvania: 3,583 offers out of 35,868 apps, 10 percent.

U.S. Military Academy: no figures available yet.

U.S. Naval Academy: no figures available yet.

Vanderbilt University: 3634 offers out of 29,490 apps, 12 percent.

Vassar College: 1,771 offers out of 7,784 apps, 23 percent.

Washington University in St. Louis: 5,002 offers out of 29,211 apps, 17 percent.

Wellesley College: 1,330 offers out of 4,710 apps, 28 percent.

Wesleyan University: 2,199 offers out of 9,477 apps, 23 percent.

Williams College: 1,150 offers out of 6,316 apps, 18 percent.

Yale University: 1,935 offers out of 30,932 apps, 6 percent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/college-admission-rates-for-class-of-2018-an-imperfect-but-closely-watched-metric/2014/04/03/820ff578-b6af-11e3-8cc3-d4bf596577eb_story.html

Were any of those kids given a seat over another because they were black or hispanic? If so, that's not really the equality everyone wants, now is it....

Holistic admissions is a euphemism for race balancing.

And gender balancing and major balancing and geographic balancing and interest balancing..... Boys have an edge over girls- unless it is mainly a stem school, underrepresented minorities have en edge over over represented minorities, Alaskans and North Dakotan have and edge over New Yorkers and Virginians. Odd sports have an edge over normal sports...