Brutal Admissions Year!

[Anonymous]

Just got back from my kid's admitted student day at the college she chose. Lots of very pissed off parents asking about the admissions process during the Q/A with the admissions folks. All they kept repeating was they used a "holistic admissions process".

Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just got back from my kid's admitted student day at the college she chose. Lots of very pissed off parents asking about the admissions process during the Q/A with the admissions folks. All they kept repeating was they used a "holistic admissions process".

Ridiculous.

Why were they angry if their kids were admitted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just got back from my kid's admitted student day at the college she chose. Lots of very pissed off parents asking about the admissions process during the Q/A with the admissions folks. All they kept repeating was they used a "holistic admissions process".

Ridiculous.

Why were they angry if their kids were admitted?

That is my question too.

[Anonymous]

If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

[Anonymous]

My son is half Asian. As long as college is concerned, he is white. My friend's son is half white, but as long as college is concerned he is black, even though he looks more lily white than my son.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yea, please be aware that the top schools are not awash in diversity. 5-8% African American is the norm for the top schools.

They ARE awash in diversity, but a different source of it (asian Americans, foreigners, growing women and Latino...)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

Harvard has feeder schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But what the poster is saying is what we have observed -- My son's room mate is "Hispanic". His dad is an investment banker and he attended private schools and was waited on by a house full of servants. He drives a Lexus. I don't think that that was actually the target audience for the system of racial admissions preferences. One of my college roommates grew up on some kind of a ranch in Namibia. She was "African" -- even though she was white and quite wealthy. My son's friend is "African-American". Both her parents are neurosurgeons and her house is literally five times the size of ours. This feels like cheating to me. And no one wins in this scenario -- not the kids who don't get accepted, whether white or black, nor the students who are, who aren't really getting exposed to a diverse group of people, unless you consider Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous as a diverse group of people.

It sounds like you are assuming the son of the investment banker and the son of neurosurgeons only got in due to racial preference - do you know that they weren't top students anyway?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, if it's any consolation, it's also been a brutal year for all those poor and minority students. I work for an org that helps low-income students attend college-most of our students are black or latino. We've been hearing from various admissions offices that there is a huge pool this year, and while many of our students would have been likely admits if they could pay, schools don't want to spend a huge amount of aid on one student with a $0 EFC when they could spread that money around and give several students a decent amount of aid. It's tough out there.

Yes, I've heard that as well. I'm just not a believer in affirmative action. I think it is unconstitutional.

White males are admitted with lower qualifications than white females, or Asian males or females. What do you call that? The natural order of things, no doubt.

As a white male I think schools should take the most qualified kids, but I also understand why they might want to diversify their student body. If I were in charge though, it would be mostly grades, APs and SAT scores that drove the majority of the admission decision, diversity/legacy/athletics be damned.

As a white male (you), why do you think that all of the diversified student body have inferior grades or test scores. Off the top of my head, I know of three so-called diversity candidates who have superior scores.

Do you really think that HYP would let someone in who can't do the work?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

I just don't get why you think your kid is better than the other 30,000 comparable students with the same or better scores than your kid. Do you people realize there are just so many seats?

While I feel for your friend's son, you know that it's a crap shoot. No such thing as a 'feeder' school even if it's Exeter or Andover. Just so many seats are available. Period.

[Anonymous]

So why again is your child better than the other thousands and thousands who applied and those who got offers?

2014 Washington Post Article. The link is at the end.

Amherst College: 1,103 admission offers out of 8,468 applications, 13 percent.

Bowdoin College: 1,032 offers out of 6,935 apps, 15 percent.

Brown University: 2,619 offers out of 30,432 apps, 9 percent.

California Institute of Technology: 529 offers out of 6,524 apps, 8 percent.

Carleton College: 1,446 offers out of 6,293 apps, 23 percent.

Claremont McKenna College: 613 offers out of 6,043 apps, 10 percent.

Colgate University: 2,224 offers out of 8,713 apps, 26 percent.

Columbia University: 2,291 offers out of 32,967 apps, 7 percent.

Cornell University: 6,014 offers out of 43,041 apps, 14 percent.

Dartmouth College: 2,220 offers out of 19,296 apps, 12 percent.

Davidson College: 1,169 offers out of 5,558 apps, 21 percent.

Duke University: 3,499 offers out of 32,506 apps, 11 percent.

Emory University: 4,616 offers out of 17,797 apps, 26 percent.

Grinnell College: 1,626 offers out of 6,056 apps, 27 percent.

Hamilton College: 1,312 offers out of 5,071 apps, 26 percent.

Harvard University: 2,023 offers out of 34,295 apps, 6 percent.

Harvey Mudd College: 510 offers out of 3,678 apps, 14 percent. Note: Harvey Mudd’s figures are based on what it labels “actionable” applications, meaning those that are complete enough for the college to make a decision. Separately, it reports a higher figure for total apps. If that higher figure were used, its admission rate would be a percentage point lower.

Haverford College: no figures available yet.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology:1,419 offers out of 18,357 apps, 8 percent.

Middlebury College: 1,422 offers out of 8,196 apps, 17 percent.

Northwestern University: 4,349 offers out of 33,673 apps, 13 percent.

Pomona College: 938 offers out of 7,727 apps, 12 percent.

Princeton University: 1,939 offers out of 26,641 apps, 7 percent.

Rice University: 2,498 offers out of 17,720 apps, 14 percent.

Smith College: 1,802 offers out of 4,461 apps, 40 percent.

Stanford University: 2,138 offers out of 42,167 apps, 5 percent.

Swarthmore College: 930 offers out of 5,540 apps, 17 percent.

University of California at Berkeley: no figures available until April 18.

University of Chicago: 2,304 offers out of 27,503 apps, 8 percent.

University of Notre Dame: 3,720 offers out of 17,897 apps, 21 percent.

University of Pennsylvania: 3,583 offers out of 35,868 apps, 10 percent.

U.S. Military Academy: no figures available yet.

U.S. Naval Academy: no figures available yet.

Vanderbilt University: 3634 offers out of 29,490 apps, 12 percent.

Vassar College: 1,771 offers out of 7,784 apps, 23 percent.

Washington University in St. Louis: 5,002 offers out of 29,211 apps, 17 percent.

Wellesley College: 1,330 offers out of 4,710 apps, 28 percent.

Wesleyan University: 2,199 offers out of 9,477 apps, 23 percent.

Williams College: 1,150 offers out of 6,316 apps, 18 percent.

Yale University: 1,935 offers out of 30,932 apps, 6 percent.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/college-admission-rates-for-class-of-2018-an-imperfect-but-closely-watched-metric/2014/04/03/820ff578-b6af-11e3-8cc3-d4bf596577eb_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

Harvard has feeder schools?

I am skeptical there is any "feeder school" for Harvard that ranks their students numerically and typically gets "the top 5" into Harvard. People really like to think they can check some boxes and then deserve admission to an Ivy League school. It simply does not work that way, whether you are an Asian boy or a
black female.

[Anonymous]

And one more of the representation of the thousands and thousands of kids competing with yours.

2014 USC Admission by the Numbers (University of So. Cal)

The admitted pool of 9,225 students was selected from 51,800 applicants. This year’s admission rate, 17.8 percent, is the lowest in USC’s history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

Harvard has feeder schools?

I am skeptical there is any "feeder school" for Harvard that ranks their students numerically and typically gets "the top 5" into Harvard. People really like to think they can check some boxes and then deserve admission to an Ivy League school. It simply does not work that way, whether you are an Asian boy or a
black female.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you think your kids had it tough, count your lucky star that your kid is not an Asian boy.

My friend's son is in a "feeder" school for Harvard. Usually the top 5 gets in. He is #1, did not get into Harvard, did not get into any top choice schools, did not get into any second choice schools- even Tuft wait listed him. Two years ago his brother was passed over by Harvard as well, as #1 in his class, but at least he got into CMU.

I feel bad for the kid. So much for doing well in school.

Harvard has feeder schools?

It is a public school next to Harvard and sends a few there each year.