FCPS Proposal to close down AAP Centers at Greenbriar West ES and Carson MS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PP, I think you need to just speak for your own school.

In our part of the county the AAP kids are neither hot housed or priveleged. They are just normal middle class kids just like every kid in our neighborhood with normal involved and loving parents.

Your anger is astonishing. I am sorry that you feel such rage against a bunch of kids. It must be a challenge to live like that and have AAP consume your life.

+1

+1. I cannot believe the amount of time and energy some of these AAP haters put into the AAP board. No wonder their kids feel bad.

Yes, because we're all sitting around discussing AAP with our kids. Good grief. This is a forum for adults (or is it?) and a place to discuss issues that are on our minds. I have much better things to do with my child than discuss AAP. And, for what it's worth, you are all spending an inordinate amount of time on these boards too, so please get off your high horse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They should all be shut down. The idea of cherry picking in public schools is unfair to the taxpayers. If low achieving students are going to slow down high achieving student, then why should mid-level achieving students be slowed down by the same measure?

Schools can accommodate all levels of learning. If children need and want different or special instruction they should go private.

THIS x100.

While we are cutting things, let us start with eliminating all AP, IB, and honors classes, as AAP (including Levels II and III) are intended to ready students for more challenging AP/IB/honors coursework in high school. If we get rid of all AAP then we do not need the AP/IB/honors classes either. Let's just have a single English class to accommodate all levels of learning.

Faulty comparison. AP, IB and honors classes are open to ALL. And surprise, surprise, non-AAP kids do quite well in them.

And so do kids that have received Level II and Level III services. You do know that AAP is not just Level IV.

And so do kids who never receive AAP center or level service!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They should all be shut down. The idea of cherry picking in public schools is unfair to the taxpayers. If low achieving students are going to slow down high achieving student, then why should mid-level achieving students be slowed down by the same measure?

Schools can accommodate all levels of learning. If children need and want different or special instruction they should go private.

THIS x100.

While we are cutting things, let us start with eliminating all AP, IB, and honors classes, as AAP (including Levels II and III) are intended to ready students for more challenging AP/IB/honors coursework in high school. If we get rid of all AAP then we do not need the AP/IB/honors classes either. Let's just have a single English class to accommodate all levels of learning.

Faulty comparison. AP, IB and honors classes are open to ALL. And surprise, surprise, non-AAP kids do quite well in them.

And so do kids that have received Level II and Level III services. You do know that AAP is not just Level IV.

And so do kids who never receive AAP center or level service!!!

Not the poster you are fighting with.

Your post is confusing.

Are you saying there should be no AAP services at all? As in no enrichment, no level II or III? Not just no level IV?

Is that what you mean by so emphatically saying that there are kids who never receive any AAP services? That because some kids are not ready or needing of any enrichment whatsoever that no children should receive any enrichment at all, even the most basic supplementing that occurs with level II?

Please explain with more details.

[Anonymous]

I spent a lot of money buying a house so that my kid (3rd grade AAP) could go to Carson, and Oakton (or TJ, if he's smart). If they close down Carson, my kid will have to go to Franklin (crappy school).

I bought my house for a reason. I hope they don't shut down Carson

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I spent a lot of money buying a house so that my kid (3rd grade AAP) could go to Carson, and Oakton (or TJ, if he's smart). If they close down Carson, my kid will have to go to Franklin (crappy school).

I bought my house for a reason. I hope they don't shut down Carson

I understand your point. But if kids who would normally go to Carson and end up in Franklin, automatically Franklin standard will go high too, Right? Hopefully teachers are good there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I spent a lot of money buying a house so that my kid (3rd grade AAP) could go to Carson, and Oakton (or TJ, if he's smart). If they close down Carson, my kid will have to go to Franklin (crappy school).

I bought my house for a reason. I hope they don't shut down Carson

I understand your point. But if kids who would normally go to Carson and end up in Franklin, automatically Franklin standard will go high too, Right? Hopefully teachers are good there.

Besides, Franklin is not that crappy a school. I believe right now a couple of kids from Franklin go to TJ every year. This is after the cream goes to Carson. So now if the cream doesnt go to Carson, there will be more kids going to TJ from Franklin. Also, the number of going to TJ from Carson will come down substantially in the coming years. I think it could be a good thing. Lets wait and see. Btwn I have a 3rd grader too.

[Anonymous]

Franklin is a great school.

[Anonymous]

Also the HS that Carson goes to is not that great. Now parents with one kid in MS and one in HS will not want to move/ live in that pyramid (unless their DC gets into TJ). So the value and quality of Carson will come down substantially in the years to come. This is one ripple effect that the school board has not considered.

[Anonymous]

Also the HS that Carson goes to is not that great. Now parents with one kid in MS and one in HS will not want to move/ live in that pyramid (unless their DC gets into TJ). So the value and quality of Carson will come down substantially in the years to come. This is one ripple effect that the school board has not considered.

Shows how little you know. Carson feeds into four high schools: Oakton; Chantilly; Westfield; and South Lakes.

[Anonymous]

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Also the HS that Carson goes to is not that great. Now parents with one kid in MS and one in HS will not want to move/ live in that pyramid (unless their DC gets into TJ). So the value and quality of Carson will come down substantially in the years to come. This is one ripple effect that the school board has not considered.

Shows how little you know. Carson feeds into four high schools: Oakton; Chantilly; Westfield; and South Lakes.

Very small portion feeds to Oakton and Chantilly (right now more due to AAP). Bulk of the kids go to Westfield and South lakes. Both are not that great.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Also the HS that Carson goes to is not that great. Now parents with one kid in MS and one in HS will not want to move/ live in that pyramid (unless their DC gets into TJ). So the value and quality of Carson will come down substantially in the years to come. This is one ripple effect that the school board has not considered.

Shows how little you know. Carson feeds into four high schools: Oakton; Chantilly; Westfield; and South Lakes.

Very small portion feeds to Oakton and Chantilly (right now more due to AAP). Bulk of the kids go to Westfield and South lakes. Both are not that great.

59 students at South Lakes had weighted GPAs of 4.5 and higher last year -- seems pretty decent to me.

http://www.fcps.edu/schlbd/docs/sb%20follow%20up%20responses/fy%202014/SBfollow-up14-25.pdf

[Anonymous]

Actually looks like grade inflation at South Lakes compared to other schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Also the HS that Carson goes to is not that great. Now parents with one kid in MS and one in HS will not want to move/ live in that pyramid (unless their DC gets into TJ). So the value and quality of Carson will come down substantially in the years to come. This is one ripple effect that the school board has not considered.

Shows how little you know. Carson feeds into four high schools: Oakton; Chantilly; Westfield; and South Lakes.

Very small portion feeds to Oakton and Chantilly (right now more due to AAP). Bulk of the kids go to Westfield and South lakes. Both are not that great.

59 students at South Lakes had weighted GPAs of 4.5 and higher last year -- seems pretty decent to me.

http://www.fcps.edu/schlbd/docs/sb%20follow%20up%20responses/fy%202014/SBfollow-up14-25.pdf

good info! South lakes per this table is better than woodson, Langley, marshall, mclean...And the only 2 schools better than so lakes are TJ and oakton?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Also the HS that Carson goes to is not that great. Now parents with one kid in MS and one in HS will not want to move/ live in that pyramid (unless their DC gets into TJ). So the value and quality of Carson will come down substantially in the years to come. This is one ripple effect that the school board has not considered.

Shows how little you know. Carson feeds into four high schools: Oakton; Chantilly; Westfield; and South Lakes.

Very small portion feeds to Oakton and Chantilly (right now more due to AAP). Bulk of the kids go to Westfield and South lakes. Both are not that great.

59 students at South Lakes had weighted GPAs of 4.5 and higher last year -- seems pretty decent to me.

http://www.fcps.edu/schlbd/docs/sb%20follow%20up%20responses/fy%202014/SBfollow-up14-25.pdf

good info! South lakes per this table is better than woodson, Langley, marshall, mclean...And the only 2 schools better than so lakes are TJ and oakton?

When GPAs are higher, but test scores are lower, it suggests SL teachers give good grades to students who stay out of trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Also the HS that Carson goes to is not that great. Now parents with one kid in MS and one in HS will not want to move/ live in that pyramid (unless their DC gets into TJ). So the value and quality of Carson will come down substantially in the years to come. This is one ripple effect that the school board has not considered.

Shows how little you know. Carson feeds into four high schools: Oakton; Chantilly; Westfield; and South Lakes.

Very small portion feeds to Oakton and Chantilly (right now more due to AAP). Bulk of the kids go to Westfield and South lakes. Both are not that great.

59 students at South Lakes had weighted GPAs of 4.5 and higher last year -- seems pretty decent to me.

http://www.fcps.edu/schlbd/docs/sb%20follow%20up%20responses/fy%202014/SBfollow-up14-25.pdf

good info! South lakes per this table is better than woodson, Langley, marshall, mclean...And the only 2 schools better than so lakes are TJ and oakton?

When GPAs are higher, but test scores are lower, it suggests SL teachers give good grades to students who stay out of trouble.

Not necessarily. If you were to look at the SAT scores of those 59 students, it is quite possible that they would be significantly higher than SL test scores. SAT scores for the HS are average scores whereas the GPA in the board docs is at the individual level.