Literally every single MCPS kid I know has a tutor. Do YOU?

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I'm not concerned about your kids or what you're doing with them. Rather, your posts have such a condescending and judgmental ring to them, I was thinking it would kind of suck if our kids were on the same birthday party or social circuit and this is what you're thinking in your head all the time about the rest of us slacker parents. I don't need that in my life.

Whatever. I cannot do anything about your own insecurities. If another student's achievements makes you feel that you are a slacker mom or being judged (and that too in an anonymous forum where you do not know if anything I have said it true or false) then that is your problem. BTW - how would you know what anyone is thinking about you in their own heads? You do not get out much, do you?

So sorry. Such a packed social schedule the past few days I didn't see your response. I don't fear your child's achievements, or yours. What scares me about you is the idea that I might know you IRL, maybe have to socialize with you for our kids' sake. I just don't care to waste my time with people like you, and it's a pity that, living in MoCo, it is hard to avoid. But like I said, as an Asian mom myself, I just had to say something to dispel the caricature that people like you too often paint of Asian moms. And before you dismiss me as the kind of mom who "just" focuses on dance and sports classes, and who is just too clueless to apprehend all the faults you see in the inferior MCPS system, or too cheap and shortsighted to see the need to pay thousands to tutor my kids on the ES curriculum, I'm Ivy and my kids are HGC. I never had a tutor and never took a prep course and neither have my kids. If you want to win people over to your ideas about improving the curriculum, you should drop the condescending attitude.

+1 Asian mom that doesn't make my already smart kids go to tutors. I'd use one if my kid needed help or actually ASKED to have one. So glad I am not the only Asian mom that thinks this way.

Sorry - but Asian moms never call their kids "smart". You are are troll!

Do you know every Asian mom in this world? Wow! I'm Asian, and I do call my kids smart because they are. I make sure they know they are not the smartest or the best and to be humble, but I also let them know this so they know to not give up on something because it is hard. It gives them some confidence. And how wonderful for them that their parents think they are smart and have no problems complimenting them.

My parents also had a hard time complimenting us as kids. They do so now as adults, but it would've been nice to hear a compliment or two as a kid, like when I brought home 5 As and 1B, and all they could do was focus on the B - in PE for god's sake. Parents that never compliment their kids may end up having kids that have issues like "I'm never good enough" when they get older. How sad.

Why do I always find grown-up ABCs with such a huge chip on their shoulder. Oh my parents were never happy with my grades ...boo hoo hoo. God, grow up! Take care of your kids, raise them the way the way you want to. Why do you care about how others are raising their kids? Are you not falling in the same trap as your parents - of comparing you children with others?

I absolutely don't care what others think, and I do take care of them the way I want, much to my mother's chagrin. I'm just sick of the stereotypical Asian tiger-moms. And don't kid yourself, all parents, including you, to some degree or another, compare their kids with others, both the good and the bad parts.

Obviously *you* care about how others are raising their kids, or you wouldn't be here trying to convince people that it's normal to pay $80-100/hr to tutor kids on an elementary school curriculum.

I do not care one way or the other if someone wants to spend money to get their kids tutored. I am not the one spending the money and it is not my child. Sheesh!

Obviously this post has bubbled up some unresolved "mommy issues" with you. DId she cane you when you got a "B" in PE? Or did you being shame on the family in some other way?

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I'm not concerned about your kids or what you're doing with them. Rather, your posts have such a condescending and judgmental ring to them, I was thinking it would kind of suck if our kids were on the same birthday party or social circuit and this is what you're thinking in your head all the time about the rest of us slacker parents. I don't need that in my life.

Whatever. I cannot do anything about your own insecurities. If another student's achievements makes you feel that you are a slacker mom or being judged (and that too in an anonymous forum where you do not know if anything I have said it true or false) then that is your problem. BTW - how would you know what anyone is thinking about you in their own heads? You do not get out much, do you?

So sorry. Such a packed social schedule the past few days I didn't see your response. I don't fear your child's achievements, or yours. What scares me about you is the idea that I might know you IRL, maybe have to socialize with you for our kids' sake. I just don't care to waste my time with people like you, and it's a pity that, living in MoCo, it is hard to avoid. But like I said, as an Asian mom myself, I just had to say something to dispel the caricature that people like you too often paint of Asian moms. And before you dismiss me as the kind of mom who "just" focuses on dance and sports classes, and who is just too clueless to apprehend all the faults you see in the inferior MCPS system, or too cheap and shortsighted to see the need to pay thousands to tutor my kids on the ES curriculum, I'm Ivy and my kids are HGC. I never had a tutor and never took a prep course and neither have my kids. If you want to win people over to your ideas about improving the curriculum, you should drop the condescending attitude.

+1 Asian mom that doesn't make my already smart kids go to tutors. I'd use one if my kid needed help or actually ASKED to have one. So glad I am not the only Asian mom that thinks this way.

Sorry - but Asian moms never call their kids "smart". You are are troll!

Do you know every Asian mom in this world? Wow! I'm Asian, and I do call my kids smart because they are. I make sure they know they are not the smartest or the best and to be humble, but I also let them know this so they know to not give up on something because it is hard. It gives them some confidence. And how wonderful for them that their parents think they are smart and have no problems complimenting them.

My parents also had a hard time complimenting us as kids. They do so now as adults, but it would've been nice to hear a compliment or two as a kid, like when I brought home 5 As and 1B, and all they could do was focus on the B - in PE for god's sake. Parents that never compliment their kids may end up having kids that have issues like "I'm never good enough" when they get older. How sad.

Why do I always find grown-up ABCs with such a huge chip on their shoulder. Oh my parents were never happy with my grades ...boo hoo hoo. God, grow up! Take care of your kids, raise them the way the way you want to. Why do you care about how others are raising their kids? Are you not falling in the same trap as your parents - of comparing you children with others?

I absolutely don't care what others think, and I do take care of them the way I want, much to my mother's chagrin. I'm just sick of the stereotypical Asian tiger-moms. And don't kid yourself, all parents, including you, to some degree or another, compare their kids with others, both the good and the bad parts.

Obviously *you* care about how others are raising their kids, or you wouldn't be here trying to convince people that it's normal to pay $80-100/hr to tutor kids on an elementary school curriculum.

I do not care one way or the other if someone wants to spend money to get their kids tutored. I am not the one spending the money and it is not my child. Sheesh!

Obviously this post has bubbled up some unresolved "mommy issues" with you. DId she cane you when you got a "B" in PE? Or did you being shame on the family in some other way?

Did I say "upset"? And no, it wasn't the mom...my mom wasn't an asian tiger mom. It was my dad that "focused" on the B, and asked why the "B". Never said he was upset by it. And the chagrin my mother has about my parenting has to do with the Asian style of feeding and sleeping that I do not follow. Has nothing to do with kids' education. So you were so wrong about your dumb-ass assumptions. And BTW, I am not Chinese. ABC refers to American-Born-Chinese, neither of which I am. Again, another dumb assumption.

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My parents also had a hard time complimenting us as kids. They do so now as adults, but it would've been nice to hear a compliment or two as a kid, like when I brought home 5 As and 1B, and all they could do was focus on the B - in PE for god's sake. Parents that never compliment their kids may end up having kids that have issues like "I'm never good enough" when they get older. How sad.

Why do I always find grown-up ABCs with such a huge chip on their shoulder. Oh my parents were never happy with my grades ...boo hoo hoo. God, grow up! Take care of your kids, raise them the way the way you want to. Why do you care about how others are raising their kids? Are you not falling in the same trap as your parents - of comparing you children with others?

I absolutely don't care what others think, and I do take care of them the way I want, much to my mother's chagrin. I'm just sick of the stereotypical Asian tiger-moms. And don't kid yourself, all parents, including you, to some degree or another, compare their kids with others, both the good and the bad parts.

There is the stereotypical Asian tiger-mom and there is the stereotypical 2nd gen "Joy Luck Club" daughters! I suggest therapy!

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I'm not concerned about your kids or what you're doing with them. Rather, your posts have such a condescending and judgmental ring to them, I was thinking it would kind of suck if our kids were on the same birthday party or social circuit and this is what you're thinking in your head all the time about the rest of us slacker parents. I don't need that in my life.

Whatever. I cannot do anything about your own insecurities. If another student's achievements makes you feel that you are a slacker mom or being judged (and that too in an anonymous forum where you do not know if anything I have said it true or false) then that is your problem. BTW - how would you know what anyone is thinking about you in their own heads? You do not get out much, do you?

So sorry. Such a packed social schedule the past few days I didn't see your response. I don't fear your child's achievements, or yours. What scares me about you is the idea that I might know you IRL, maybe have to socialize with you for our kids' sake. I just don't care to waste my time with people like you, and it's a pity that, living in MoCo, it is hard to avoid. But like I said, as an Asian mom myself, I just had to say something to dispel the caricature that people like you too often paint of Asian moms. And before you dismiss me as the kind of mom who "just" focuses on dance and sports classes, and who is just too clueless to apprehend all the faults you see in the inferior MCPS system, or too cheap and shortsighted to see the need to pay thousands to tutor my kids on the ES curriculum, I'm Ivy and my kids are HGC. I never had a tutor and never took a prep course and neither have my kids. If you want to win people over to your ideas about improving the curriculum, you should drop the condescending attitude.

+1 Asian mom that doesn't make my already smart kids go to tutors. I'd use one if my kid needed help or actually ASKED to have one. So glad I am not the only Asian mom that thinks this way.

Sorry - but Asian moms never call their kids "smart". You are are troll!

Do you know every Asian mom in this world? Wow! I'm Asian, and I do call my kids smart because they are. I make sure they know they are not the smartest or the best and to be humble, but I also let them know this so they know to not give up on something because it is hard. It gives them some confidence. And how wonderful for them that their parents think they are smart and have no problems complimenting them.

My parents also had a hard time complimenting us as kids. They do so now as adults, but it would've been nice to hear a compliment or two as a kid, like when I brought home 5 As and 1B, and all they could do was focus on the B - in PE for god's sake. Parents that never compliment their kids may end up having kids that have issues like "I'm never good enough" when they get older. How sad.

Why do I always find grown-up ABCs with such a huge chip on their shoulder. Oh my parents were never happy with my grades ...boo hoo hoo. God, grow up! Take care of your kids, raise them the way the way you want to. Why do you care about how others are raising their kids? Are you not falling in the same trap as your parents - of comparing you children with others?

I absolutely don't care what others think, and I do take care of them the way I want, much to my mother's chagrin. I'm just sick of the stereotypical Asian tiger-moms. And don't kid yourself, all parents, including you, to some degree or another, compare their kids with others, both the good and the bad parts.

Obviously *you* care about how others are raising their kids, or you wouldn't be here trying to convince people that it's normal to pay $80-100/hr to tutor kids on an elementary school curriculum.

I do not care one way or the other if someone wants to spend money to get their kids tutored. I am not the one spending the money and it is not my child. Sheesh!

Obviously this post has bubbled up some unresolved "mommy issues" with you. DId she cane you when you got a "B" in PE? Or did you being shame on the family in some other way?

Did I say "upset"? And no, it wasn't the mom...my mom wasn't an asian tiger mom. It was my dad that "focused" on the B, and asked why the "B". Never said he was upset by it. And the chagrin my mother has about my parenting has to do with the Asian style of feeding and sleeping that I do not follow. Has nothing to do with kids' education. So you were so wrong about your dumb-ass assumptions. And BTW, I am not Chinese. ABC refers to American-Born-Chinese, neither of which I am. Again, another dumb assumption.

ABCD? Anyhow get therapy...it is very easy to get a rise out of you!

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Tiger tutor mom, you do come across as defensive with the personal attacks. Also a bit evasive--instead of generalities about how MCPS is bad, why not answer questions about what math courses you want your children to take by grade, especially in high school? That is actually relevant information for those who are considering whether tutoring is valuable or not. (And I am not one of the posters you have been arguing with today.)

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Anonymous wrote:Tiger tutor mom, you do come across as defensive with the personal attacks. Also a bit evasive--instead of generalities about how MCPS is bad, why not answer questions about what math courses you want your children to take by grade, especially in high school? That is actually relevant information for those who are considering whether tutoring is valuable or not. (And I am not one of the posters you have been arguing with today.)

Actually I do not believe that any one gets swayed by some anonymous posting on DCUM, when they are deciding to get their children tutored or not.

As for what Math courses my kid will take or has taken is a trajectory that is based on his needs and capabilities. Please do your own research and ask your friends in your social group for recommendations. Some of my own friends have children older than mine and I do ask their opinions abouit my child's academic path. I also keep a track of the tutors that are highly recommended by my friends just in case my child ever needs tutoring. Good tutors are hard to come by!

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Anonymous wrote:Tiger tutor mom, you do come across as defensive with the personal attacks. Also a bit evasive--instead of generalities about how MCPS is bad, why not answer questions about what math courses you want your children to take by grade, especially in high school? That is actually relevant information for those who are considering whether tutoring is valuable or not. (And I am not one of the posters you have been arguing with today.)

BTW...if you are asking me to share info that you think will be relevant to you - should you not have a more polite way of addressing me than "Tiger tutor mom" ?

You are hysterical! If MCPS works for you and your child's needs there is NO reason for tutoring. You don't have to jump on this bandwagon, you know.

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why not answer questions about what math courses you want your children to take by grade, especially in high school?

I'm not the poster you rudely called a Tiger mom but I'll answer this question. Many parents who teach math at home, tutor, or do math enrichment courses are not focused on the arbitrary definitions of MCPS grade levels or the course labels. You can play with a shape sorter and call it Geometry. You can ask what is the missing number from 1 + X =2 and call it Algebra.

This is one of the reasons that Montessori programs are so strong in developing strong conceptual math skills with 3-6 years olds. They don't take the perspective that since MCPS doesn't do X concept until 3rd grade that younger kids must not be able to comprehend the concept.

My goal in replacing the math curriculum at home is to expose my kids to math presented in rational, logical and not out of sequence order, allow them to build deeper understanding and number sense by not being stopped by arbitrary ceilings, allow them to work at their own pace and develop the ability to come up with their own strategies to develop reasoning skills and not just regurgitate the 5 ways some MCPS administrator dictated.

Math in MCPS isn't just easy, basic and boring..its broken and does not present the subject appropriately. Other posters have written eloquently about this and provided examples.

If some MCPS staffer doesn't like it that parents replace their curriculum, and consistently ignores all the examples of what is missing and wrong to simply defend their own existence, who cares? These people are meaningless and just a barrier to education.

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MCPS is full of lifers and people who have worked in the system for decades. There is a very insular universe mentality throughout the organization. This creates so many problems. Smaller school systems need to look outside themselves but a system as large as MCPS just looks to each other and there is a huge echo chamber of self congratulatory behavior.

From their perspective what they define as grade level is a law of their universe and they will always be in their universe. Our kids will not grow up to live out their lives as MCPS teachers and administrators so ensuring that they receive an education that is competitive with the rest of the world is important.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS is full of lifers and people who have worked in the system for decades. There is a very insular universe mentality throughout the organization. This creates so many problems. Smaller school systems need to look outside themselves but a system as large as MCPS just looks to each other and there is a huge echo chamber of self congratulatory behavior.

From their perspective what they define as grade level is a law of their universe and they will always be in their universe. Our kids will not grow up to live out their lives as MCPS teachers and administrators so ensuring that they receive an education that is competitive with the rest of the world is important.

NP here. Paranoid much?

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Not sure the previous comment makes any sense. There's nothing paranoid about pointing out how MCPS staff are insular, lifers and this is one of the problems.

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why not answer questions about what math courses you want your children to take by grade, especially in high school?


I'm not the poster you rudely called a Tiger mom but I'll answer this question. Many parents who teach math at home, tutor, or do math enrichment courses are not focused on the arbitrary definitions of MCPS grade levels or the course labels. You can play with a shape sorter and call it Geometry. You can ask what is the missing number from 1 + X =2 and call it Algebra.

This is one of the reasons that Montessori programs are so strong in developing strong conceptual math skills with 3-6 years olds. They don't take the perspective that since MCPS doesn't do X concept until 3rd grade that younger kids must not be able to comprehend the concept.

My goal in replacing the math curriculum at home is to expose my kids to math presented in rational, logical and not out of sequence order, allow them to build deeper understanding and number sense by not being stopped by arbitrary ceilings, allow them to work at their own pace and develop the ability to come up with their own strategies to develop reasoning skills and not just regurgitate the 5 ways some MCPS administrator dictated.

Math in MCPS isn't just easy, basic and boring..its broken and does not present the subject appropriately. Other posters have written eloquently about this and provided examples.

If some MCPS staffer doesn't like it that parents replace their curriculum, and consistently ignores all the examples of what is missing and wrong to simply defend their own existence, who cares? These people are meaningless and just a barrier to education.


But you didn't answer the question. The question is about math course goals by grade in high school. You just said MCPS math is broken and boring and that MCPS staffers who disagree with you are meaningless.

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GT+Magnet DD.
Need tutors? No.
Have tutors? Yes.

Need piano/violin/foreign language teachers? No.
Have piano/violin/foreign language teachers? Yes.

Why all the fuss. Families have different priority and value.
A friend of mine lost her part time job, and the first thing she did was to pull her pre-k DD out of school, not dropping her monthly iPhone, direct TV, bills.
Who to judge...

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Anonymous wrote:GT+Magnet DD.
Need tutors? No.
Have tutors? Yes.

Need piano/violin/foreign language teachers? No.
Have piano/violin/foreign language teachers? Yes.

Why all the fuss. Families have different priority and value.
A friend of mine lost her part time job, and the first thing she did was to pull her pre-k DD out of school, not dropping her monthly iPhone, direct TV, bills.
Who to judge...

If you post on DCUM, you will get judged. Don't wanna be judged or hear judgemental opinions? Stay away from DCUM. Simple.

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I'm not the poster you rudely called a Tiger mom but I'll answer this question. Many parents who teach math at home, tutor, or do math enrichment courses are not focused on the arbitrary definitions of MCPS grade levels or the course labels. You can play with a shape sorter and call it Geometry. You can ask what is the missing number from 1 + X =2 and call it Algebra.

This is one of the reasons that Montessori programs are so strong in developing strong conceptual math skills with 3-6 years olds. They don't take the perspective that since MCPS doesn't do X concept until 3rd grade that younger kids must not be able to comprehend the concept.

My goal in replacing the math curriculum at home is to expose my kids to math presented in rational, logical and not out of sequence order, allow them to build deeper understanding and number sense by not being stopped by arbitrary ceilings, allow them to work at their own pace and develop the ability to come up with their own strategies to develop reasoning skills and not just regurgitate the 5 ways some MCPS administrator dictated.

Math in MCPS isn't just easy, basic and boring..its broken and does not present the subject appropriately. Other posters have written eloquently about this and provided examples.

If some MCPS staffer doesn't like it that parents replace their curriculum, and consistently ignores all the examples of what is missing and wrong to simply defend their own existence, who cares? These people are meaningless and just a barrier to education.


But you didn't answer the question. The question is about math course goals by grade in high school.

I'm not sure why I am engaging you. Parents who are replacing the curriculum do not do it with an MCPS course goal by grade in mind. In fact, you can't track along MCPS grade levels because there is so much repetition. My 7 year old is enjoying division right now. I understand that this isn't introduced until 3rd grade and only at a basic level. It repeats again in 4th grade at a slightly high level but not much. Is my 7 year old doing 4th grade math, 3rd grade math, 5th grade math? By MCPS standards sure but that wasn't the goal nor do I think it matters what MCPS calls on grade level.

In high school, I would want my child to continue with his love of math and be able to apply it to fields where math reasoning aligns. This isn't a course by grade goal as defined by MCPS.