To dog owners (again): I don't want your dog to touch me.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

TIL that if something is “friendly” to a population (I.e. child friendly or lgbt friendly) it means that there are no restrictions on that population’s behavior!

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

You still don’t get it. A six foot leash AND you have to be able to stop your dog from bothering others. You are the insane one.

“Bothering” to people on this thread means passing a person on a narrow trail or a crowded sidewalk. Dogs are allowed to do that. Dogs are allowed to accidentally brush up against people or sniff in their direction. That doesn’t make the dog “out of control” or lawless, as many on this thread have said.

Again, stop playing dumb. No one is talking about that. Dogs are one hundred percent not allowed to brush up against anyone you idiot. Your dog is allowed to be there IF he is not touching anyone. What part of that is so hard for you to understand.

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I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

No such thing. There are public places where dogs are not banned, but it doesn't mean they are "dog friendly." A "dog friendly" place would be a place designed for dogs -- a dog park, a business that labels itself "dog friendly", an event designed for dogs like pups at the park or a festival where people are encouraged to bring dogs.

A sidewalk is designed for people, but dogs are allowed. They have to behave though, and they can't obstruct a person's ability to use the sidewalk. If your dog is doing things that make it hard for other people (including children, people in wheelchairs or with mobility problems, and people who don't want to come into physical contact with your dog for whatever reason) to use the sidewalk, you need to control your dog. The rights of people to use the sidewalk supersede your dog's access. It is not a place "for" dogs, it's just a place dogs are allowed to be (if well behaved).

Same with trails, which is why trails that permit dogs ALWAYS require them to be on leash, something dog owners constantly flout because you care more about your dog's needs than those of the other human beings for whom the trail was designed and built.

If you want a dog friendly place for your dog to run around, get a yard or visit a dog park.

Lmao you need to visit California or Colorado. Entire, unfenced parks with hiking trails permit off-leash dogs. Actually, the same is true in Old Town. A dog park right on the Potomac in Old Town has no fence and no leashes required. Sorry that the world doesn’t exist the way you want it to.

THE SIDEWALK IS NOT A DOG PARK YOU INSUFFERABLE IDIOTS.

-- Colorado native

So, to be clear, you’re good with urban, unfenced parks bordering crowded sidewalks allowing off-leash dogs? Because that’s how things are in San Francisco.

So move to San Francisco. Problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

Are sidewalks human friendly? Humans still have to behave on sidewalks. You’re absolutely insufferable. Leashed dogs are allowed to be on sidewalks. And they’re allowed to exhibit normal, safe behavior on sidewalks.

I don't know if anyone has explained this to you yet, but dogs and humans are different.

Both are allowed on sidewalks only under certain parameters.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

TIL that if something is “friendly” to a population (I.e. child friendly or lgbt friendly) it means that there are no restrictions on that population’s behavior!

Oh you didn't learn anything today, but I sense that's how most days go for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

No such thing. There are public places where dogs are not banned, but it doesn't mean they are "dog friendly." A "dog friendly" place would be a place designed for dogs -- a dog park, a business that labels itself "dog friendly", an event designed for dogs like pups at the park or a festival where people are encouraged to bring dogs.

A sidewalk is designed for people, but dogs are allowed. They have to behave though, and they can't obstruct a person's ability to use the sidewalk. If your dog is doing things that make it hard for other people (including children, people in wheelchairs or with mobility problems, and people who don't want to come into physical contact with your dog for whatever reason) to use the sidewalk, you need to control your dog. The rights of people to use the sidewalk supersede your dog's access. It is not a place "for" dogs, it's just a place dogs are allowed to be (if well behaved).

Same with trails, which is why trails that permit dogs ALWAYS require them to be on leash, something dog owners constantly flout because you care more about your dog's needs than those of the other human beings for whom the trail was designed and built.

If you want a dog friendly place for your dog to run around, get a yard or visit a dog park.

Lmao you need to visit California or Colorado. Entire, unfenced parks with hiking trails permit off-leash dogs. Actually, the same is true in Old Town. A dog park right on the Potomac in Old Town has no fence and no leashes required. Sorry that the world doesn’t exist the way you want it to.

THE SIDEWALK IS NOT A DOG PARK YOU INSUFFERABLE IDIOTS.

-- Colorado native

So, to be clear, you’re good with urban, unfenced parks bordering crowded sidewalks allowing off-leash dogs? Because that’s how things are in San Francisco.

So move to San Francisco. Problem solved.

I’m good in Old Town, which literally has the exact same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

You still don’t get it. A six foot leash AND you have to be able to stop your dog from bothering others. You are the insane one.

“Bothering” to people on this thread means passing a person on a narrow trail or a crowded sidewalk. Dogs are allowed to do that. Dogs are allowed to accidentally brush up against people or sniff in their direction. That doesn’t make the dog “out of control” or lawless, as many on this thread have said.

Again, stop playing dumb. No one is talking about that. Dogs are one hundred percent not allowed to brush up against anyone you idiot. Your dog is allowed to be there IF he is not touching anyone. What part of that is so hard for you to understand.

And there it is. This is a batshit insane take not reflected in any laws in this country.

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I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

Are sidewalks human friendly? Humans still have to behave on sidewalks. You’re absolutely insufferable. Leashed dogs are allowed to be on sidewalks. And they’re allowed to exhibit normal, safe behavior on sidewalks.

I don't know if anyone has explained this to you yet, but dogs and humans are different.

Both are allowed on sidewalks only under certain parameters.

Nope.

Humans are entitled to sidewalks. If a sidewalk doesn't accommodate a human because they are in a wheelchair, for instance, that human can sue the city and force them to change the sidewalk to ensure the human has access to it.

Dogs are merely permitted on sidewalks if their owners follow specific rules that are designed to ensure the presence of the dog doesn't inhibit the ability of other humans to use it. If a dog can't use a sidewalk (say it's a dachshund and the sidewalk has obstacles that would make it impossible for such a short animal to use it) it doesn't matter -- that dog owner just has to figure out something else.

Again, humans and dogs are different.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a dog and I am fully aware that there are people who are afraid of dogs. I don't take my dog to stores. I don't assume that people want to pet my dog. I keep my dog on a leash. I don't get people who find this hard to understand.

You are a decent human being, unlike some other 'pet parents' on this thread.
Btw, what's the deal with 'pet parents'? You haven't birthed you dog, so you arent the dog's parent.

I am adopted and yet my parent didn’t birth me either.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

Are sidewalks human friendly? Humans still have to behave on sidewalks. You’re absolutely insufferable. Leashed dogs are allowed to be on sidewalks. And they’re allowed to exhibit normal, safe behavior on sidewalks.

I don't know if anyone has explained this to you yet, but dogs and humans are different.

Both are allowed on sidewalks only under certain parameters.

Nope.

Humans are entitled to sidewalks. If a sidewalk doesn't accommodate a human because they are in a wheelchair, for instance, that human can sue the city and force them to change the sidewalk to ensure the human has access to it.

Dogs are merely permitted on sidewalks if their owners follow specific rules that are designed to ensure the presence of the dog doesn't inhibit the ability of other humans to use it. If a dog can't use a sidewalk (say it's a dachshund and the sidewalk has obstacles that would make it impossible for such a short animal to use it) it doesn't matter -- that dog owner just has to figure out something else.

Again, humans and dogs are different.

Nope! Humans have to comport themselves with care and control on sidewalks. They can’t jump on people or grab people. They can’t engage in illegal conduct. They typically aren’t allowed to ride bikes on the sidewalk. They are allowed on sidewalks only so long as they’re behaving lawfully and reasonably.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

No such thing. There are public places where dogs are not banned, but it doesn't mean they are "dog friendly." A "dog friendly" place would be a place designed for dogs -- a dog park, a business that labels itself "dog friendly", an event designed for dogs like pups at the park or a festival where people are encouraged to bring dogs.

A sidewalk is designed for people, but dogs are allowed. They have to behave though, and they can't obstruct a person's ability to use the sidewalk. If your dog is doing things that make it hard for other people (including children, people in wheelchairs or with mobility problems, and people who don't want to come into physical contact with your dog for whatever reason) to use the sidewalk, you need to control your dog. The rights of people to use the sidewalk supersede your dog's access. It is not a place "for" dogs, it's just a place dogs are allowed to be (if well behaved).

Same with trails, which is why trails that permit dogs ALWAYS require them to be on leash, something dog owners constantly flout because you care more about your dog's needs than those of the other human beings for whom the trail was designed and built.

If you want a dog friendly place for your dog to run around, get a yard or visit a dog park.

Lmao you need to visit California or Colorado. Entire, unfenced parks with hiking trails permit off-leash dogs. Actually, the same is true in Old Town. A dog park right on the Potomac in Old Town has no fence and no leashes required. Sorry that the world doesn’t exist the way you want it to.

THE SIDEWALK IS NOT A DOG PARK YOU INSUFFERABLE IDIOTS.

-- Colorado native

So, to be clear, you’re good with urban, unfenced parks bordering crowded sidewalks allowing off-leash dogs? Because that’s how things are in San Francisco.

So move to San Francisco. Problem solved.

I’m good in Old Town, which literally has the exact same thing.

Have fun but don't be surprised if that park gets fenced and greater control imposed because those dogs are out of control.

I have seen this happen in my neighborhood where the "free range dog" situation got out of control during and after Covid, and then the rest of us started fighting back. For a time, it was common for people to let dogs off leash at the park near my house, but other people just started literally yelling at them and calling the cops, posting photos of off leash dogs and their owners on Nextdoor, etc., until it stopped. Same with dogs in grocery stores and restaurants -- businesses started getting aggressive about enforcing those laws and other customers would vocally complain until it stopped.

If you are a crappy dog owner who loves taking your rambunctious dog to public spaces and letting them run amok, you should understand that your hey day was 2020-2023 and it is over now. I wouldn't count on the Old Town situation continuing unless dog populations start declining or people get very responsible with their dogs (which I know from experience they are NOT in Old Town, so many people who walk around with off leash dogs and a strong sense of entitlement, it wont' last).

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

Are sidewalks human friendly? Humans still have to behave on sidewalks. You’re absolutely insufferable. Leashed dogs are allowed to be on sidewalks. And they’re allowed to exhibit normal, safe behavior on sidewalks.

I don't know if anyone has explained this to you yet, but dogs and humans are different.

Both are allowed on sidewalks only under certain parameters.

Nope.

Humans are entitled to sidewalks. If a sidewalk doesn't accommodate a human because they are in a wheelchair, for instance, that human can sue the city and force them to change the sidewalk to ensure the human has access to it.

Dogs are merely permitted on sidewalks if their owners follow specific rules that are designed to ensure the presence of the dog doesn't inhibit the ability of other humans to use it. If a dog can't use a sidewalk (say it's a dachshund and the sidewalk has obstacles that would make it impossible for such a short animal to use it) it doesn't matter -- that dog owner just has to figure out something else.

Again, humans and dogs are different.

Nope! Humans have to comport themselves with care and control on sidewalks. They can’t jump on people or grab people. They can’t engage in illegal conduct. They typically aren’t allowed to ride bikes on the sidewalk. They are allowed on sidewalks only so long as they’re behaving lawfully and reasonably.

We don't currently have a scourge of people jumping on or grabbing other people on sidewalks because, and say it with me this time: humans and dogs are different.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a dog and I am fully aware that there are people who are afraid of dogs. I don't take my dog to stores. I don't assume that people want to pet my dog. I keep my dog on a leash. I don't get people who find this hard to understand.

You are a decent human being, unlike some other 'pet parents' on this thread.
Btw, what's the deal with 'pet parents'? You haven't birthed you dog, so you arent the dog's parent.

I am adopted and yet my parent didn’t birth me either.

And yet, you are a human being whereas a dog is a dog.

Humans and dogs are different. It's so weird that this is a controversial statement for some of you.

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I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

Are sidewalks human friendly? Humans still have to behave on sidewalks. You’re absolutely insufferable. Leashed dogs are allowed to be on sidewalks. And they’re allowed to exhibit normal, safe behavior on sidewalks.

I don't know if anyone has explained this to you yet, but dogs and humans are different.

Both are allowed on sidewalks only under certain parameters.

Nope.

Humans are entitled to sidewalks. If a sidewalk doesn't accommodate a human because they are in a wheelchair, for instance, that human can sue the city and force them to change the sidewalk to ensure the human has access to it.

Dogs are merely permitted on sidewalks if their owners follow specific rules that are designed to ensure the presence of the dog doesn't inhibit the ability of other humans to use it. If a dog can't use a sidewalk (say it's a dachshund and the sidewalk has obstacles that would make it impossible for such a short animal to use it) it doesn't matter -- that dog owner just has to figure out something else.

Again, humans and dogs are different.

Nope! Humans have to comport themselves with care and control on sidewalks. They can’t jump on people or grab people. They can’t engage in illegal conduct. They typically aren’t allowed to ride bikes on the sidewalk. They are allowed on sidewalks only so long as they’re behaving lawfully and reasonably.

We don't currently have a scourge of people jumping on or grabbing other people on sidewalks because, and say it with me this time: humans and dogs are different.

lol have you ever gone into DC

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly this is something YOU have to get over. You are clearly not well mentally and while I feel sorry for your history, you do live in a society where people have pets and children, etc and there will be interactions with them. Most mentally healthy people find these interactions pleasant and fulfilling even, but clearly you do not. That is not typical and the world should not be required to adjust to your extreme hypersensitivity. Try meds, therapy or consider in patient treatment. I wish you well

I managed to own a dog for 15 years, living in an apartment in urban areas, without him touching a single person on our walk who didn't specifically ask to pet him. Most people do not find a strange dog they don't know touching them without a clear affirmative consent "pleasant and fulfilling". They find it invasive. The fact that you think that's "extreme hypersensitivity" is bizarre.

There is middle ground here. I am a dog owner. I absolutely hate off-leash dogs, and I never intentionally bring my dog to someone without them expressly inviting it. But also if you're walking on a city sidewalk, my dog might turn around to sniff you and might even boop you with his snout because there just isn't a lot of room to pass and my dog isn't perfect. The interaction won't be long because I keep his leash very short when we pass someone, but I can't guarantee perfect.

Shorten your leash or don't have a dog if you cannot walk them without it touching other people or invading their space

I grab dog’s leash so he’s right up against me. The sidewalk is like 6 feet wide or less. Two people plus a dog means we’re all coming in close proximity.

So when you’re coming into close proximity with someone who is indicating they want to avoid your dog, stop, put yourself between your dog and the other person and make your dog is secure. If shortening the leash can’t assure your control, then hold the collar, use both hands, sit on the ground with the dog in your lap while you hug it, pick it up altogether, step off the sidewalk so the other person can pass, hire a dog walker who can control the dog, take it some place where there’s no chance of it being too close to others who don’t welcome interaction, or leave the dog home altogether. The fact is that every single human has the right to use the sidewalk without being accosted by a dog. Dogs are extended the privilege of sidewalk access only when the owner’s control insures they don’t inconvenience other people.

This cannot be a serious post. You would rather I sit on the sidewalk and hug my well behaved properly leashed dog than literally step to the side, as I will do, as we pass?

The dog hating insanity has gone off the deep end.

DP here: If your dog is so well behaved then you can see someone who is approaching and move him to the other side. Or stop and put them in a sit. Or have them on a head collar so you can keep them looking at you.

If none of those work then your dog doesn’t belong on crowded sidewalks, so your options would include driving to a less crowded place or physically restraining your dog, or getting a dog trainer.

No. I have no obligation to do that. Keeping
My dog on a short leash is plenty. Both my dog and I are allowed to be there. If you hate dogs that much, then YOU move. We’re not talking about a restaurant or grocery store where dogs are prohibited. These are dog-friendly sidewalks and walking trails.

Who made them dog friendly? You don’t get to just proclaim that.

Your dog will never have as many rights as the person walking, you lunatic.

The “dogs permitted on a six-foot leash” sign, the county ordinances, the laws? Are you insane?

These are laws that allow dogs, it doesn't make the place dog-friendly. The laws are saying "you MAY bring your dog here, but only if the dog doesn't bother people."

It's like how there are lots of place kids are allowed but are not "kid-friendly" places. Restaurants and airplanes, for instance. You can bring kids there, but if your kid is running around, bothering other people, screaming, etc, then you will be asked to leave or you might be banned from the airline or. held accountable for your kids' behavior in other ways. A "kid-friendly" place is a playground, a school, a kid's birthday party, a family restaurant, Chuck-e-Cheese, etc. Places where kids can run amok and no one cares.

Honey, these places are literally listed on the county website as “dog-friendly” places.

Yes, parks where dogs are free to run around and are encouraged to congregate.

There is no such thing as a "dog friendly sidewalk." Dogs must be controlled on sidewalks. Always.

HONEY.

Are sidewalks human friendly? Humans still have to behave on sidewalks. You’re absolutely insufferable. Leashed dogs are allowed to be on sidewalks. And they’re allowed to exhibit normal, safe behavior on sidewalks.

I don't know if anyone has explained this to you yet, but dogs and humans are different.

Both are allowed on sidewalks only under certain parameters.

Certain parameters, but different.

Humans are not required to be leashed on sidewalks, for instance.

Because humans are not dogs and dogs are not humans.

You know this, right?