What’s stopping you from trying a GLP / meds?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s stopping me is having success through diet and exercise. I’m mid-40s and have lost 20 pounds in the last year through a modest deficit (1850 calories a day), walking and strength training. I started this journey with the goal of longevity though. That really motivated me to show up and stay consistent. Losing weight was a great side effect.

This is an outstanding attitude and absolutely the correct position. Nobody over 40 should be concerned with vanity. Focus on your health, real food, and movement and the rest will fall into place.

Or make up a bunch of pseudo science to explain away an addiction to fat, sugar, and salt instead of Whole Foods.

Problem is that this approach just doesn’t work for some people. My doctor has been telling me I need to lose 10-12 more lbs to be healthier (I am slightly overweight) and I just can’t do it or keep it off. I am 44 and have been eating in a strict 1400 calorie deficit for years to be able to lose weight/maintain but the second I go even slightly above that I gain right back. I already work out 4-5 days per week. I eat protein, limit sugar and carbs, etc.

I just don’t know how I can lose/maintain weight to get to where I should be.

[Anonymous]

Oh dear, I saw a woman I hadn't seen in a year last night and now I understand what you all are talking about when you say that this drug AGES people. She used to have a little fat in her face and now she looks gaunt and about 15 years older than the last time I saw her. Do people's doctors tell them when they've lost too much weight? Are they going only by BMI and not what looks healthy? Don't we all know that BMI is not a great measure of health?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Oh dear, I saw a woman I hadn't seen in a year last night and now I understand what you all are talking about when you say that this drug AGES people. She used to have a little fat in her face and now she looks gaunt and about 15 years older than the last time I saw her. Do people's doctors tell them when they've lost too much weight? Are they going only by BMI and not what looks healthy? Don't we all know that BMI is not a great measure of health?

She prefers being called old than fat. As far as BMI, no, we don’t “all know”. I’ve been shamed for a slightly overweight BMI (and with great blood pressure and blood work) as a teen, in my 30s…Many doctors do focus on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s stopping me is having success through diet and exercise. I’m mid-40s and have lost 20 pounds in the last year through a modest deficit (1850 calories a day), walking and strength training. I started this journey with the goal of longevity though. That really motivated me to show up and stay consistent. Losing weight was a great side effect.

This is an outstanding attitude and absolutely the correct position. Nobody over 40 should be concerned with vanity. Focus on your health, real food, and movement and the rest will fall into place.

Or make up a bunch of pseudo science to explain away an addiction to fat, sugar, and salt instead of Whole Foods.

Problem is that this approach just doesn’t work for some people. My doctor has been telling me I need to lose 10-12 more lbs to be healthier (I am slightly overweight) and I just can’t do it or keep it off. I am 44 and have been eating in a strict 1400 calorie deficit for years to be able to lose weight/maintain but the second I go even slightly above that I gain right back. I already work out 4-5 days per week. I eat protein, limit sugar and carbs, etc.

I just don’t know how I can lose/maintain weight to get to where I should be.

You are not walking enough, 20k steps on top of your weight training should do the trick.
Wether a 44 year old (supposedly busy professional with children at home) has the time to do all that is another issue.

[Anonymous]

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To be clear, you don't have to take it forever - I think for those of you who might just take it to lose 15lbs you could probably just wean off it and maintain to keep the weight off.

That is because - again - this drug isn't for you. It is for people who are obese and have a lot more to lose, and obesity is a disease that the drugs treat but do not cure. (Think blood pressure meds, for example.)

That said, I get why people would want to use it to lose 15 pounds. And I think if you haven't struggled with weight and/or food noise your whole life, you would have an easier time weaning off of it and keeping the weight off. But I could be wrong about that!

I took it to lose 25lbs. I was overweight, not obese but gaining and bloating like a balloon as I got older despite pretty good nutrition and being active. My mom has had huge health issues due to type 2 diabetes and weight: I was not willing to go down that path. I think I will stay on it forever. For me the issue is food noise, weight thoughts, having to restrict hard and obsess to lose 2lbs and regain them, constantly feeling bad and guilty about my body...It has freed up so much mental space that I've been able to achieve many goals in life not weight related at all, all from not having to think so much to just not get obese. Based on prior experience going off of it, I don't believe I can do all this if off this drug. Some people need various meds for various issues and stay on them for life, and I think this is me with this. I'm not on a high dose and my cost is reasonable and a small price to pay for all the benefits and the gift of physical health and a clear, happier mind.

It's like swapping addictions.

Swapping with what addiction?

Obviously, you were addicted to food and now you’re addicted to the drug. Neither seems particularly healthy.

DP. Being overweight does not automatically equate to being addicted to food. Especially when someone is only 25 pounds overweight. You're displaying either your sense of superiority and judgement or your ignorance of health and medicine. Perhaps both.

Someone who is 25 lbs overweight is habituated to consistently consuming significantly more calories than they require for basic bodily function and nutrition. You don't want to call it addiction, but what would cause someone to overeat day after day after day?

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To be clear, you don't have to take it forever - I think for those of you who might just take it to lose 15lbs you could probably just wean off it and maintain to keep the weight off.

That is because - again - this drug isn't for you. It is for people who are obese and have a lot more to lose, and obesity is a disease that the drugs treat but do not cure. (Think blood pressure meds, for example.)

That said, I get why people would want to use it to lose 15 pounds. And I think if you haven't struggled with weight and/or food noise your whole life, you would have an easier time weaning off of it and keeping the weight off. But I could be wrong about that!

I took it to lose 25lbs. I was overweight, not obese but gaining and bloating like a balloon as I got older despite pretty good nutrition and being active. My mom has had huge health issues due to type 2 diabetes and weight: I was not willing to go down that path. I think I will stay on it forever. For me the issue is food noise, weight thoughts, having to restrict hard and obsess to lose 2lbs and regain them, constantly feeling bad and guilty about my body...It has freed up so much mental space that I've been able to achieve many goals in life not weight related at all, all from not having to think so much to just not get obese. Based on prior experience going off of it, I don't believe I can do all this if off this drug. Some people need various meds for various issues and stay on them for life, and I think this is me with this. I'm not on a high dose and my cost is reasonable and a small price to pay for all the benefits and the gift of physical health and a clear, happier mind.

It's like swapping addictions.

Swapping with what addiction?

Obviously, you were addicted to food and now you’re addicted to the drug. Neither seems particularly healthy.

DP. Being overweight does not automatically equate to being addicted to food. Especially when someone is only 25 pounds overweight. You're displaying either your sense of superiority and judgement or your ignorance of health and medicine. Perhaps both.

Someone who is 25 lbs overweight is habituated to consistently consuming significantly more calories than they require for basic bodily function and nutrition. You don't want to call it addiction, but what would cause someone to overeat day after day after day?

It's much more complicated than that. Often, women who are fit and at a normal weight hit menopause and then start packing on weight despite eating the same amount they always have and doing the same amount of exercise. Sometimes, the number of calories an older woman can consume without gaining weight is shockingly low. It's absurd to call someone addicted to food when even 1500 calories per day causes them to gain weight. Most people, whether fat or thin, eat significantly more than that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s stopping me is having success through diet and exercise. I’m mid-40s and have lost 20 pounds in the last year through a modest deficit (1850 calories a day), walking and strength training. I started this journey with the goal of longevity though. That really motivated me to show up and stay consistent. Losing weight was a great side effect.

This is an outstanding attitude and absolutely the correct position. Nobody over 40 should be concerned with vanity. Focus on your health, real food, and movement and the rest will fall into place.

Or make up a bunch of pseudo science to explain away an addiction to fat, sugar, and salt instead of Whole Foods.

Problem is that this approach just doesn’t work for some people. My doctor has been telling me I need to lose 10-12 more lbs to be healthier (I am slightly overweight) and I just can’t do it or keep it off. I am 44 and have been eating in a strict 1400 calorie deficit for years to be able to lose weight/maintain but the second I go even slightly above that I gain right back. I already work out 4-5 days per week. I eat protein, limit sugar and carbs, etc.

I just don’t know how I can lose/maintain weight to get to where I should be.

You are not walking enough, 20k steps on top of your weight training should do the trick.
Wether a 44 year old (supposedly busy professional with children at home) has the time to do all that is another issue.

Walking more isn’t the solution. It’s cutting down on the intake. 10-12 pounds of fat tissue is a significant amount of energy storage from exceeding intake versus requirements for an extending period of time.

The overwhelming majority of 44 year old females don’t have the physical capacity to out exercise even 2000-3000 calories of additional intake a week.

There isn’t any special thermodynamics math here.

[Anonymous]

You need a tummy tuck with muscle repair and not weight loss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s stopping me is having success through diet and exercise. I’m mid-40s and have lost 20 pounds in the last year through a modest deficit (1850 calories a day), walking and strength training. I started this journey with the goal of longevity though. That really motivated me to show up and stay consistent. Losing weight was a great side effect.

I have been on 1200, strength train for over a decade and can't lose weight. I think the prime muscle development years was 14-24 and that boat sailed decades ago. Heavy weights can help you keep whatever you had but no woman is going to be the Rock in this life time.

This is definitely untrue -- you can absolutely transform your body composition and develop more muscle after the age of 24 and well into middle age. The older you are, the harder it is, but it's certainly possible. I never had much muscle until I put effort into it staring in my late 30s, post pregnancies, and now (mid-40s) I'm more muscular than I've ever been.

That 1200 calorie diet is a big part of what is keeping you from building muscle. And if it's not helping you lose weight, what is the point? You should take a page out of PP's book and just focus on health and fitness, and see what happens.

[Anonymous]

I've had pancreatitis. Never again. Plus I don't want to have to take any drug for the next forty years if I can avoid it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s stopping me is having success through diet and exercise. I’m mid-40s and have lost 20 pounds in the last year through a modest deficit (1850 calories a day), walking and strength training. I started this journey with the goal of longevity though. That really motivated me to show up and stay consistent. Losing weight was a great side effect.

This is an outstanding attitude and absolutely the correct position. Nobody over 40 should be concerned with vanity. Focus on your health, real food, and movement and the rest will fall into place.

Or make up a bunch of pseudo science to explain away an addiction to fat, sugar, and salt instead of Whole Foods.

Problem is that this approach just doesn’t work for some people. My doctor has been telling me I need to lose 10-12 more lbs to be healthier (I am slightly overweight) and I just can’t do it or keep it off. I am 44 and have been eating in a strict 1400 calorie deficit for years to be able to lose weight/maintain but the second I go even slightly above that I gain right back. I already work out 4-5 days per week. I eat protein, limit sugar and carbs, etc.

I just don’t know how I can lose/maintain weight to get to where I should be.

You are not walking enough, 20k steps on top of your weight training should do the trick.
Wether a 44 year old (supposedly busy professional with children at home) has the time to do all that is another issue.

Walking more isn’t the solution. It’s cutting down on the intake. 10-12 pounds of fat tissue is a significant amount of energy storage from exceeding intake versus requirements for an extending period of time.

The overwhelming majority of 44 year old females don’t have the physical capacity to out exercise even 2000-3000 calories of additional intake a week.

There isn’t any special thermodynamics math here.

You don’t know what you are talking about. Without the bare minimal of walking (10k +), not even 900 cal a day can save you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What’s stopping me is having success through diet and exercise. I’m mid-40s and have lost 20 pounds in the last year through a modest deficit (1850 calories a day), walking and strength training. I started this journey with the goal of longevity though. That really motivated me to show up and stay consistent. Losing weight was a great side effect.

I have been on 1200, strength train for over a decade and can't lose weight. I think the prime muscle development years was 14-24 and that boat sailed decades ago. Heavy weights can help you keep whatever you had but no woman is going to be the Rock in this life time.

This is definitely untrue -- you can absolutely transform your body composition and develop more muscle after the age of 24 and well into middle age. The older you are, the harder it is, but it's certainly possible. I never had much muscle until I put effort into it staring in my late 30s, post pregnancies, and now (mid-40s) I'm more muscular than I've ever been.

That 1200 calorie diet is a big part of what is keeping you from building muscle. And if it's not helping you lose weight, what is the point? You should take a page out of PP's book and just focus on health and fitness, and see what happens.

Because I’d hit true overweight from borderline overweight if I consume more than 1400 a day.
I haven’t had sugar for 16 years lol.

[Anonymous]

Nothing ! I'm all in!!

[Anonymous]

I will say the majority of women I know using GLPs simply don't want to do the hard work of cleaning up their diets and exercising regularly. There are no particular obstacles there, they just don't want to. Some women were dealt a more challenging genetic hand, for sure, but I do believe prescription meds should always be the last resort. If you end up really needing them, fine, but why put any medication into your body unnecessarily? Especially when most will need to stay on it forever?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will say the majority of women I know using GLPs simply don't want to do the hard work of cleaning up their diets and exercising regularly. There are no particular obstacles there, they just don't want to. Some women were dealt a more challenging genetic hand, for sure, but I do believe prescription meds should always be the last resort. If you end up really needing them, fine, but why put any medication into your body unnecessarily? Especially when most will need to stay on it forever?

Cleaning up diet and exercising require a regimented life style, because you need sufficient sleep to recover from workouts. Which means workout can't be too early or too late. During the years where I was super lean, I made little progression in my career. During the years where I made moves good for my comp, I tend to gain a bit of weight. Not saying meds are the solution. But don't pretend we live in a upper middle class bubble where someone else took care of you.