| I agree. |
Where on earth did you get the idea that most of the rest of the world is more accepting of immigrants? Especially visibly different ones. |
I do wonder if all of the Somali problems in MN were caused by culture & failure to assimilate, or endless welfare. If they’d been dropped somewhere without so many welfare programs, they might have assimilated faster and prospered. I read something recently that said how Virginia is a great place for immigrants. Yes, many immigrants groups have prospered here: the ones who came a while back from Vietnam, for example. But they weren’t given welfare at the levels seen today in MN. |
Still living the fantasy about Minnesota? |
the best time for US families was when immigration was limited and companies were forced to hire/train US citizens. “The economic and societal changes that followed the curtailment of immigration “made possible the success of the civil rights revolution of the 1950s and 1960s,” according to Stanford economic historian Gavin Wright. Without the immigration reduction, the Great Migration of Black southerners to the North and West would not have occurred as it did, and the civil rights movement would never have progressed as it did. The Great Migration and the resulting rapid rise in Black incomes spurred the increased enrollment at Historic Black Colleges and the elevated numbers of Black lawyers, physicians, clergy, and other professionals whose ranks produced the leaders of the civil rights movement. Without the Great Migration and the Great Leveling, it is difficult to imagine the civil rights movement successes in the 1950s and 1960s. “If the trends in Black progress during the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s had continued, America would be a far different society today. “But progress for the average Black wage earner stalled in the 1970s.” On immigration, the Angus Deaton, a Princeton professor writes: “I used to subscribe to the near consensus among economists that immigration to the US was a good thing, with great benefits to the migrants and little or no cost to domestic low-skilled workers. I no longer think so. Economists’ beliefs are not unanimous on this but are shaped by econometric designs that may be credible but often rest on short-term outcomes. Longer-term analysis over the past century and a half tells a different story. Inequality was high when America was open, was much lower when the borders were closed, and rose again post Hart-Celler (the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965) as the fraction of foreign-born people rose back to its levels in the Gilded Age. It has also been plausibly argued that the Great Migration of millions of African Americans from the rural South to the factories in the North would not have happened if factory owners had been able to hire the European migrants they preferred.” https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/fandd/issues/2024/03/Symposium-Rethinking-Economics-Angus-Deaton |
| You tend to do less and less for your community if it’s overwhelmed by immigrants. Especially if they look and act different than you. |
I grew up in the 80s and 90s where my friends were nearly all first generation and parents were immigrants with accents, different cultures, religions, and more, my best friends are from families from Haiti, India, South American countries, and more. And now I work in a super diverse place. Not my personal experience. This xenophobia is a newer trend to me and seems driven by right wing media Charlie Kirk types, etc. Sorry but your narrative contradicts what I actually lived and experience. |
DP. It’s just one small example (out of many) of something that was affordable 30-40 years ago and is now increasingly less so, another side effect of corruption and greed. Climate change is probably going to render it unprofitable anyway, except in very northern latitudes. |
OMG. your anti-immigrant rants are so tiresome. Who are these "real" Americans? Are they not descendants of immigrants? Unless your ancestors were forced here as slaves, or you are Native American, you are also a descendant of immigrants. The 1950s were "great" because the world had just come out of a world war, and the US was really the only power with a functioning economy and manufacturing sector. Women and "coloreds" could not get good paying jobs. Yay for for men, particularly white men. Do you really think the 1950s were great for black people here? Tell me you are white without telling me you are white. Gosh, what was so bad about the 50s and before for black people or any non white people here, do you think? What do you think happened in the 1970s that caused an increase in black men being incarcerated? You can't think that critically, can you. We all know that MAGA white men want to go back to a time when they didn't have to compete for jobs with women and those colored people. You are an idiot. Stop posting your stupidity on here. |
That's only true for racist people. |
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No - immigration was NEVER and is not and will never be our top problem causing the US to fall in disgrace in just about everything.
Immigration has been the best thing about the US. In no other country has immigration been so prevalent. In fact, I'd suggest that the greatest single reason for the US to achieve its glory has been because it's a melting pot of many cultures, nationalities, the ability to link the many talents of different kinds of people together. That is about the only strength actually of the US. The problem that's happening now to the US is that culturally, economically, academically, in every possible significant category, our internal policies and protocols have disintegrated. This means that our whole population suffers. It's not that immigration has caused this, it's leadership not being there, it's corruption and greed that's impacted, it's stupidity that's reigned and ignorance that's blossomed contributing to our hot mess of the country to date. The best and the brightest talent, intelligence, abilities have always come from immigrants so no, it's not that. It's our entire country losing our ways in values, violence and economically that's at the root of all our problems. |
Meanwhile, IGNORING your anecdotal data, where is the $20 BILLION lost in fraud, Minnesota??? |
Of course you would IGNORE the billions Trump and his cronies and families are siphoning off from taxpayers. Trump gave BILLIONS to Argentina, and they have universal healthcare. Trump gave BILLIONS to Israel for this unjustified war, not to mention the BILLIONS the US already gives Israel. BTW, the leader of the fraud in MN is a white women, American born. But, I realize that pathetic people find it easier to blame those who are weaker than themselves for their lot. I believe the Nazis convinced most of the Germans to do just that. |
First, this has ZERO to do with Trump. These are people who do not respect our culture. Take the case of Ladan Mohamad Ali. She is given money to bribe a jury but before she even tries to bribe them, she takes an 80,000 cut for herself. LOLOL! These people are tribal. They care nothing about our country, let alone their state or community. They care about only the race of people they belong to or even their immediate family. It doesn't work here. I have no sympathy for them. Just get out. "Ask not what your country can do for you Ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy |
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The Trump family are recent immigrants, so yes I agree immigrants are the problem.
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