Taylor's Feb. Rec for Woodward Boundary Study

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Anonymous wrote:Given Woodward will host special program for Drama, Art, Media etc having 35-40% FARMS will result in high achiveing kids leaving for WJ or Stem program in Wheaton. It will result in fewer kids who can take higher level courses and they will have no choice.

STEM at Wheaton - is it a good program? Comparable to Blair? I am so upset they are dividing us in 6 regions.

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Wheaton is the top high school for enrollment into UMD's School of Engineering. It's good - great principal.

Yes, that was due to picking good students from 6 DCC HS. I suspect situation will change now.

Was it criteria based?

Woodward/wj will provide many many smart kids that would easily fill the program at wheaton

It was criterion based. Anyway, it won' be the same program going forward.

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I wonder why they aren't sending the Summit Hills apartments to BCC

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

What do you mean by different?

Wealth. A lot less of it.

Don’t turn on the new Woodward families when MCPS divided the schools and even the WJ cluster in an unexpected way. The way they split KP and GP puts all the single family homes in WJ rather than Woodward.

Is there a more close up map to show where gp and kp split?

GPES has many multi family houses still going to WJ. The Parkside condos, stoneybrook, apts near Grosvenor.

The islands from GPES that didn’t get WJ make complete sense. They should go to Woodward. One is directly next to Woodward.

Option B was the right call.

They will do elementary boundary soon to mitigate some of the split articulation issues. KPES is under capacity and Ashburton is over capacity. It will get resolved.

Looks like all the Option B signs on Strathmore worked.

They were desperate to avoid Woodward.

I won't celebrate yet. MCPS may not ceoncentrate poverty in Woodward and make both schools more similar in final approval. It will depend on how hard Old Farm/North FArm and Luxmanor area lobbies.

As they should have been desperate to avoid Woodward. Fashion design? It grabs from Wheaton Woods now too. No thank you

Attention will be on Wootton. This Woodward rec is done deal.

Note that Taylor only submitted this rec for Woodward. In the Crown study he submitted a recommendation plus an alternative.

The BOE members can if they want to not appear completely useless stand up bravely against racial segregation by moving Viers Mill ES to WJ.

You lost credibility there. VM “improved” from Wheaton to Woodward too. You don’t see VM clamoring for WJ. GPE and KPE keeps status quo for its core.

I am from VM and prefer WJ.

Same. It’s a perfect solution. Move VM to WJ. Move all of GP to Woodward. FARMS rates are more evenly distributed. GP remains united just like they want

You are for the redistribution of wealth to VM. Shocking perspective for someone who lives in VM. You want to be able to better afford your addition. Woodward is an upgrade. You instead want to take WJ from GP where they have decades long relationship.

I have just as much a right as you do to advocate for what’s best for my child. Unlike you, I am advocating for something that would benefit the majority of the Woodward and WJ area as well

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Anonymous wrote:Given Woodward will host special program for Drama, Art, Media etc having 35-40% FARMS will result in high achiveing kids leaving for WJ or Stem program in Wheaton. It will result in fewer kids who can take higher level courses and they will have no choice.

STEM at Wheaton - is it a good program? Comparable to Blair? I am so upset they are dividing us in 6 regions.

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Wheaton is the top high school for enrollment into UMD's School of Engineering. It's good - great principal.

Yes, that was due to picking good students from 6 DCC HS. I suspect situation will change now.

Was it criteria based?

Woodward/wj will provide many many smart kids that would easily fill the program at wheaton

It was criterion based. Anyway, it won' be the same program going forward.

It will be a better program. NBMS kids are very bright. I am sure the parents will be a driving force. So many kids went to RM and Blair from our cluster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they aren't sending the Summit Hills apartments to BCC

I think they are. The recommendation says "Students assigned to Woodlin Elementary School who reside west of the MARC Brunswick train line will be reassigned to Silver Creek Middle School and Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School."

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Anonymous wrote:The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

What do you mean by different?

Wealth. A lot less of it.

Don’t turn on the new Woodward families when MCPS divided the schools and even the WJ cluster in an unexpected way. The way they split KP and GP puts all the single family homes in WJ rather than Woodward.

Is there a more close up map to show where gp and kp split?

GPES has many multi family houses still going to WJ. The Parkside condos, stoneybrook, apts near Grosvenor.

The islands from GPES that didn’t get WJ make complete sense. They should go to Woodward. One is directly next to Woodward.

Option B was the right call.

They will do elementary boundary soon to mitigate some of the split articulation issues. KPES is under capacity and Ashburton is over capacity. It will get resolved.

Looks like all the Option B signs on Strathmore worked.

They were desperate to avoid Woodward.

I won't celebrate yet. MCPS may not ceoncentrate poverty in Woodward and make both schools more similar in final approval. It will depend on how hard Old Farm/North FArm and Luxmanor area lobbies.

As they should have been desperate to avoid Woodward. Fashion design? It grabs from Wheaton Woods now too. No thank you

Attention will be on Wootton. This Woodward rec is done deal.

Note that Taylor only submitted this rec for Woodward. In the Crown study he submitted a recommendation plus an alternative.

The BOE members can if they want to not appear completely useless stand up bravely against racial segregation by moving Viers Mill ES to WJ.

You lost credibility there. VM “improved” from Wheaton to Woodward too. You don’t see VM clamoring for WJ. GPE and KPE keeps status quo for its core.

I am from VM and prefer WJ.

Same. It’s a perfect solution. Move VM to WJ. Move all of GP to Woodward. FARMS rates are more evenly distributed. GP remains united just like they want

You are for the redistribution of wealth to VM. Shocking perspective for someone who lives in VM. You want to be able to better afford your addition. Woodward is an upgrade. You instead want to take WJ from GP where they have decades long relationship.

I have just as much a right as you do to advocate for what’s best for my child. Unlike you, I am advocating for something that would benefit the majority of the Woodward and WJ area as well

Slinging nonsense on message boards is not advocacy.

It definitely would be to detriment to all of the new WJ area to do as you say.

Taylor was reasonable. Alleviated crowding at Wheaton by sending Wheaton Woods and VM rightfully to the brand spanking new Woodward to be with the rich kids of Farmland and Luxmanor.

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Isn’t this talk of which students will attend and how poor they will be a little premature, given that the new 6-region model will mean that students can select another school in their region for one of its programs? So, a couple of hundred “poor” kids from Einstein or Northwood or Blair will be going to BCC or Whitman every year, for example.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

What do you mean by different?

Wealth. A lot less of it.

Don’t turn on the new Woodward families when MCPS divided the schools and even the WJ cluster in an unexpected way. The way they split KP and GP puts all the single family homes in WJ rather than Woodward.

Is there a more close up map to show where gp and kp split?

GPES has many multi family houses still going to WJ. The Parkside condos, stoneybrook, apts near Grosvenor.

The islands from GPES that didn’t get WJ make complete sense. They should go to Woodward. One is directly next to Woodward.

Option B was the right call.

They will do elementary boundary soon to mitigate some of the split articulation issues. KPES is under capacity and Ashburton is over capacity. It will get resolved.

Looks like all the Option B signs on Strathmore worked.

They were desperate to avoid Woodward.

I won't celebrate yet. MCPS may not ceoncentrate poverty in Woodward and make both schools more similar in final approval. It will depend on how hard Old Farm/North FArm and Luxmanor area lobbies.

As they should have been desperate to avoid Woodward. Fashion design? It grabs from Wheaton Woods now too. No thank you

Attention will be on Wootton. This Woodward rec is done deal.

Note that Taylor only submitted this rec for Woodward. In the Crown study he submitted a recommendation plus an alternative.

The BOE members can if they want to not appear completely useless stand up bravely against racial segregation by moving Viers Mill ES to WJ.

You lost credibility there. VM “improved” from Wheaton to Woodward too. You don’t see VM clamoring for WJ. GPE and KPE keeps status quo for its core.

I am from VM and prefer WJ.

Same. It’s a perfect solution. Move VM to WJ. Move all of GP to Woodward. FARMS rates are more evenly distributed. GP remains united just like they want

You are for the redistribution of wealth to VM. Shocking perspective for someone who lives in VM. You want to be able to better afford your addition. Woodward is an upgrade. You instead want to take WJ from GP where they have decades long relationship.

Yah, it's a relationship between people, lol. Give it a break.

Nothing wrong in VM parents to want to join WJ. GP does not have any unuversal rights to attend WJ when its making Woodward so much higher FARMS.

- BCC parent

“BCC” (Woodward) chiming in when they get their IB and Engineering locally, access to Blair and Whitman.

Rich “BCC” desires FARMS at other schools but not their own.

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County needs revenue for schools.

WW and VM property values went up.

So did new WJ.

This will be good for the entire county. Higher values means more tax revenue. Helps all schools.

Who cares that Farmland and Luxmanor tread water in the property value game.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they aren't sending the Summit Hills apartments to BCC

I think they are. The recommendation says "Students assigned to Woodlin Elementary School who reside west of the MARC Brunswick train line will be reassigned to Silver Creek Middle School and Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School."

So it looks like for ES the Summit Hills apartments are currently split between RHES/CCES and Woodlin. The RHES/CCES ones are currently at BCC and staying that way in the Superintendent's recommendation.

If you look at the interactive map with the Superintendent's recommendation, the Summit Hills apartments that are currently zoned for Woodlin ES are recommended to stay at Einstein HS https://maulfoster.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/basic/index.html?appid=dbc077a0c6fe4b83bfc6593589a77c41

Maybe it's a mistake with the map?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why they aren't sending the Summit Hills apartments to BCC

I think they are. The recommendation says "Students assigned to Woodlin Elementary School who reside west of the MARC Brunswick train line will be reassigned to Silver Creek Middle School and Bethesda-Chevy Chase High School."

So it looks like for ES the Summit Hills apartments are currently split between RHES/CCES and Woodlin. The RHES/CCES ones are currently at BCC and staying that way in the Superintendent's recommendation.

If you look at the interactive map with the Superintendent's recommendation, the Summit Hills apartments that are currently zoned for Woodlin ES are recommended to stay at Einstein HS https://maulfoster.maps.arcgis.com/apps/instant/basic/index.html?appid=dbc077a0c6fe4b83bfc6593589a77c41

Maybe it's a mistake with the map?

Either the map is wrong or the recommendation is wrong, as they don't match.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

What do you mean by different?

Wealth. A lot less of it.

Don’t turn on the new Woodward families when MCPS divided the schools and even the WJ cluster in an unexpected way. The way they split KP and GP puts all the single family homes in WJ rather than Woodward.

Is there a more close up map to show where gp and kp split?

GPES has many multi family houses still going to WJ. The Parkside condos, stoneybrook, apts near Grosvenor.

The islands from GPES that didn’t get WJ make complete sense. They should go to Woodward. One is directly next to Woodward.

Option B was the right call.

They will do elementary boundary soon to mitigate some of the split articulation issues. KPES is under capacity and Ashburton is over capacity. It will get resolved.

Looks like all the Option B signs on Strathmore worked.

But you agree that all the single family homes from GP and KP are going to WJ (granted that includes some mutifamily units going to WJ).

I think it’s just an interesting point. I thought GP, Farmland and Luxmanor were trying to stay together - that was the goal. But not how it played out.

No I do not agree. There are single family homes in the GPES islands that are going to Woodward. Some are very expensive off Tuckerman.

I know those homes. Very few though.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The issue is the demographics of the new WJ. Do the math.

It’s another Whitman (less diverse and richer than current WJ) while Woodward is just a mile away and will be a very different school.

What do you mean by different?

Wealth. A lot less of it.

Don’t turn on the new Woodward families when MCPS divided the schools and even the WJ cluster in an unexpected way. The way they split KP and GP puts all the single family homes in WJ rather than Woodward.

Is there a more close up map to show where gp and kp split?

GPES has many multi family houses still going to WJ. The Parkside condos, stoneybrook, apts near Grosvenor.

The islands from GPES that didn’t get WJ make complete sense. They should go to Woodward. One is directly next to Woodward.

Option B was the right call.

They will do elementary boundary soon to mitigate some of the split articulation issues. KPES is under capacity and Ashburton is over capacity. It will get resolved.

Looks like all the Option B signs on Strathmore worked.

They were desperate to avoid Woodward.

I won't celebrate yet. MCPS may not ceoncentrate poverty in Woodward and make both schools more similar in final approval. It will depend on how hard Old Farm/North FArm and Luxmanor area lobbies.

As they should have been desperate to avoid Woodward. Fashion design? It grabs from Wheaton Woods now too. No thank you

Attention will be on Wootton. This Woodward rec is done deal.

Note that Taylor only submitted this rec for Woodward. In the Crown study he submitted a recommendation plus an alternative.

The BOE members can if they want to not appear completely useless stand up bravely against racial segregation by moving Viers Mill ES to WJ.

You lost credibility there. VM “improved” from Wheaton to Woodward too. You don’t see VM clamoring for WJ. GPE and KPE keeps status quo for its core.

I am from VM and prefer WJ.

Same. It’s a perfect solution. Move VM to WJ. Move all of GP to Woodward. FARMS rates are more evenly distributed. GP remains united just like they want[b]

Yes, I see no harms in it and see many positives.

Is there a theory on why this wasn't done already?

Not enough noise from Old Farm/North Farm/Luxmanor families. Loud voices got heard so far.

Probably won’t hear from them. Not the loud type.
But mcps should still do the right thing here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Given Woodward will host special program for Drama, Art, Media etc having 35-40% FARMS will result in high achiveing kids leaving for WJ or Stem program in Wheaton. It will result in fewer kids who can take higher level courses and they will have no choice.

STEM at Wheaton - is it a good program? Comparable to Blair? I am so upset they are dividing us in 6 regions.

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Wheaton is the top high school for enrollment into UMD's School of Engineering. It's good - great principal.

Yes, that was due to picking good students from 6 DCC HS. I suspect situation will change now.

Was it criteria based?

Woodward/wj will provide many many smart kids that would easily fill the program at wheaton

What will happen to kids who are not able to join, even fewer courses in Woodward?

Taylor promises that all students who meet the criteria and apply will be able to move to these programs. That’s what I think his projected enrollment charts are bogus. We know what schools kids will move to based on the school’s demographics and programs offerings. Any current 5th grader in compacted math only has Wheaton as a HS option until MCPS adds new HS courses after IM

[Anonymous]

Honestly the loss of diversity is a big loss for WJ. That is part of what makes it such a special place. I’m sorry for them.