Stephen Miller

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This article, which was on the front page of the WJ the day it published, is a BIG DEAL. I think the knives are coming out for Stephen Miller. The article is very comprehensive and quotes multiple unnamed sources at the WH. Clearly, a number of people who are talking to the press don't approve of what Miller is doing.

Here's a quick list of all the ways that Miller has developed and steered WH policy or has manipulated Trump to get him to support Miller's approach, which is usually more draconian than anyone else's. Some of us have commented before that he is the real president--this just proves it. At this point, Trump is just a figurehead.

Framing of Pretti shooting
Within minutes of the Pretti shooting, CBP officials texted Miller to let him know what happened [interesting that he was the one that was contact ASAP, and not Noem]. "Three hours after the shooting, Miller told the world via X that the slain VA nurse was a 'domestic terrorist' who had 'tried to assassinate federal law enforcement,' a description that set off one of the Trump administration’s biggest political crises of the president’s second term."

Raised idea of invoking Insurrection Act in MN
"When protests spread in Minneapolis, Miller raised the idea of the president invoking the Insurrection Act to send in military troops, a possibility that Trump later voiced publicly, according to White House officials familiar with the matter."

After Good shooting, advocated for increasing number of ICE/CBP officers
"After immigration agents fatally shot Renee Good in early January, senior officials from the White House and Department of Homeland Security discussed whether to continue the operation in Minneapolis, according to officials familiar with the discussions. Miller said even more officers should be deployed, a White House official said, both to continue raids and protect agents conducting them. Miller reminded the president of their original goal in the city: an immigration crackdown related to welfare fraud by Somali migrants."

He writes the EOs
"He personally drafted or edited every executive order the president signed, and faced little opposition from administration officials to his work to reshape immigration policy.'

He's behind idea to blow up drug boats and deport migrants to CECOT
"Miller helped come up with the idea to blow up drug boats, officials said, and to deport migrants to a prison in El Salvador using the wartime Alien Enemies Act, an action now under court challenge."

He's behind ICE arrest quotas, $50,000 signing bonus, and workplace raids
*"Miller urged the agents to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens,” without bothering with targeted lists, according to people familiar with the meeting. Miller’s comments marked the start of a more aggressive enforcement campaign focused on progressive, Democratic Party-led cities."
*"He demanded 3,000 arrests a day—a number deemed unrealistic by many federal agents—and came up with the idea of offering recruitment bonuses as high as $50,000 for thousands of new ICE agents."
*"Miller pushed for sweeps at Home Depot and other spots where day workers gather, though Trump has at times been asked to temper raids at businesses."
*"Following immigration arrests in September by federal agents at a Hyundai Motor factory in Georgia, Republican Gov. Brian Kemp called the president and asked for the release of 300 South Korean workers, according to administration officials. The president publicly said he opposed the raid and told Kemp privately that he didn’t know it was happening. He told aides repeatedly that he didn’t want any more sweeps at factories or farms, the officials said. Even after Trump signaled his displeasure, Miller continued to argue for large raids, according to people familiar with the discussions. He wanted the administration to surpass the 400,000 deportations tallied in 2014 under former President Barack Obama."  

He doesn't leave a paper/electronic trail of his communications
"Miller rarely leaves a written trail of his orders, using Signal, an encrypted voice and text-messaging app, to communicate." 

He "manages" the president
"His authority, officials said, derives from his ability to manage the president."
*Example of how he "managed" Trump into bringing the NG into DC: "He often uses gory images to persuade Trump. After a Department of Government Efficiency staffer, Edward Coristine, also known as “Big Balls,” was beaten in an attempted carjacking last summer, Miller brought the president a large photo of the bloodied man and told him that crime in Washington was climbing. Trump soon posted the photo himself on social media, and deployed the National Guard, saying it was necessary to make the city safe." 

After killing of Charlie Kirk, he:
*was behind EO "targeting liberal groups he said were promoting political violence
*pushed Treasury Dep. officials to target liberal groups by investigating their financing the same was foreign terrorist organizations were investigated after 9/11 attacks

He commented on foreign policy issues on TV, without prior approval from Trump
*boasted on CNN that the U.S. could pursue Trump’s ambitions to control the Arctic with an invasion
*talked about Venezuela, prompting Trump to ask aides why Miller was speaking. “He doesn’t do foreign policy,” Trump said, according to a senior administration official. 

https://apple.news/AL2Z5BvQwRq2lRlDKuHsGmw


We have known every one of these items since they took place. Many of us have been yelling that Miller (and Vought) are the "worst of the worst" since early last year. Why would anything change now? I don't know what power Miller has over Trump. It may just be that he is intelligent and Trump is supremely ignorant and lazy and has no interest in the job. It may be that he is very good at keeping Trump in the dark and everyone else is afraid of him.

Anyway, I'll believe that the knives are out when I see it.


I think the heritage funds have all the Epstein files and did before he was elected. He is simply their puppet for ushering in Project 2025 and the take over.-it saved him from prison All the uneducated MAGAs cheering about their corrupt little daddy treading on them. This truly is the stupidest timeline and little Stevie is king stupid
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


This article, which was on the front page of the WJ the day it published, is a BIG DEAL. I think the knives are coming out for Stephen Miller. The article is very comprehensive and quotes multiple unnamed sources at the WH. Clearly, a number of people who are talking to the press don't approve of what Miller is doing.

Here's a quick list of all the ways that Miller has developed and steered WH policy or has manipulated Trump to get him to support Miller's approach, which is usually more draconian than anyone else's. Some of us have commented before that he is the real president--this just proves it. At this point, Trump is just a figurehead.

Framing of Pretti shooting
Within minutes of the Pretti shooting, CBP officials texted Miller to let him know what happened [interesting that he was the one that was contact ASAP, and not Noem]. "Three hours after the shooting, Miller told the world via X that the slain VA nurse was a 'domestic terrorist' who had 'tried to assassinate federal law enforcement,' a description that set off one of the Trump administration’s biggest political crises of the president’s second term."

Raised idea of invoking Insurrection Act in MN
"When protests spread in Minneapolis, Miller raised the idea of the president invoking the Insurrection Act to send in military troops, a possibility that Trump later voiced publicly, according to White House officials familiar with the matter."

After Good shooting, advocated for increasing number of ICE/CBP officers
"After immigration agents fatally shot Renee Good in early January, senior officials from the White House and Department of Homeland Security discussed whether to continue the operation in Minneapolis, according to officials familiar with the discussions. Miller said even more officers should be deployed, a White House official said, both to continue raids and protect agents conducting them. Miller reminded the president of their original goal in the city: an immigration crackdown related to welfare fraud by Somali migrants."

He writes the EOs
"He personally drafted or edited every executive order the president signed, and faced little opposition from administration officials to his work to reshape immigration policy.'

He's behind idea to blow up drug boats and deport migrants to CECOT
"Miller helped come up with the idea to blow up drug boats, officials said, and to deport migrants to a prison in El Salvador using the wartime Alien Enemies Act, an action now under court challenge."

He's behind ICE arrest quotas, $50,000 signing bonus, and workplace raids
*"Miller urged the agents to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens,” without bothering with targeted lists, according to people familiar with the meeting. Miller’s comments marked the start of a more aggressive enforcement campaign focused on progressive, Democratic Party-led cities."
*"He demanded 3,000 arrests a day—a number deemed unrealistic by many federal agents—and came up with the idea of offering recruitment bonuses as high as $50,000 for thousands of new ICE agents."
*"Miller pushed for sweeps at Home Depot and other spots where day workers gather, though Trump has at times been asked to temper raids at businesses."
*"Following immigration arrests in September by federal agents at a Hyundai Motor factory in Georgia, Republican Gov. Brian Kemp called the president and asked for the release of 300 South Korean workers, according to administration officials. The president publicly said he opposed the raid and told Kemp privately that he didn’t know it was happening. He told aides repeatedly that he didn’t want any more sweeps at factories or farms, the officials said. Even after Trump signaled his displeasure, Miller continued to argue for large raids, according to people familiar with the discussions. He wanted the administration to surpass the 400,000 deportations tallied in 2014 under former President Barack Obama."  

He doesn't leave a paper/electronic trail of his communications
"Miller rarely leaves a written trail of his orders, using Signal, an encrypted voice and text-messaging app, to communicate." 

He "manages" the president
"His authority, officials said, derives from his ability to manage the president."
*Example of how he "managed" Trump into bringing the NG into DC: "He often uses gory images to persuade Trump. After a Department of Government Efficiency staffer, Edward Coristine, also known as “Big Balls,” was beaten in an attempted carjacking last summer, Miller brought the president a large photo of the bloodied man and told him that crime in Washington was climbing. Trump soon posted the photo himself on social media, and deployed the National Guard, saying it was necessary to make the city safe." 

After killing of Charlie Kirk, he:
*was behind EO "targeting liberal groups he said were promoting political violence
*pushed Treasury Dep. officials to target liberal groups by investigating their financing the same was foreign terrorist organizations were investigated after 9/11 attacks

He commented on foreign policy issues on TV, without prior approval from Trump
*boasted on CNN that the U.S. could pursue Trump’s ambitions to control the Arctic with an invasion
*talked about Venezuela, prompting Trump to ask aides why Miller was speaking. “He doesn’t do foreign policy,” Trump said, according to a senior administration official. 

https://apple.news/AL2Z5BvQwRq2lRlDKuHsGmw


We have known every one of these items since they took place. Many of us have been yelling that Miller (and Vought) are the "worst of the worst" since early last year. Why would anything change now? I don't know what power Miller has over Trump. It may just be that he is intelligent and Trump is supremely ignorant and lazy and has no interest in the job. It may be that he is very good at keeping Trump in the dark and everyone else is afraid of him.

Anyway, I'll believe that the knives are out when I see it.


At that age, would anyone want that job? That tells you a lot about what Americans are feeling to vote not once, but TWICE for a flaky orange gramps
Anonymous
Amazing he’s the grandson of Holocaust survivors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


This article, which was on the front page of the WJ the day it published, is a BIG DEAL. I think the knives are coming out for Stephen Miller. The article is very comprehensive and quotes multiple unnamed sources at the WH. Clearly, a number of people who are talking to the press don't approve of what Miller is doing.

Here's a quick list of all the ways that Miller has developed and steered WH policy or has manipulated Trump to get him to support Miller's approach, which is usually more draconian than anyone else's. Some of us have commented before that he is the real president--this just proves it. At this point, Trump is just a figurehead.

Framing of Pretti shooting
Within minutes of the Pretti shooting, CBP officials texted Miller to let him know what happened [interesting that he was the one that was contact ASAP, and not Noem]. "Three hours after the shooting, Miller told the world via X that the slain VA nurse was a 'domestic terrorist' who had 'tried to assassinate federal law enforcement,' a description that set off one of the Trump administration’s biggest political crises of the president’s second term."

Raised idea of invoking Insurrection Act in MN
"When protests spread in Minneapolis, Miller raised the idea of the president invoking the Insurrection Act to send in military troops, a possibility that Trump later voiced publicly, according to White House officials familiar with the matter."

After Good shooting, advocated for increasing number of ICE/CBP officers
"After immigration agents fatally shot Renee Good in early January, senior officials from the White House and Department of Homeland Security discussed whether to continue the operation in Minneapolis, according to officials familiar with the discussions. Miller said even more officers should be deployed, a White House official said, both to continue raids and protect agents conducting them. Miller reminded the president of their original goal in the city: an immigration crackdown related to welfare fraud by Somali migrants."

He writes the EOs
"He personally drafted or edited every executive order the president signed, and faced little opposition from administration officials to his work to reshape immigration policy.'

He's behind idea to blow up drug boats and deport migrants to CECOT
"Miller helped come up with the idea to blow up drug boats, officials said, and to deport migrants to a prison in El Salvador using the wartime Alien Enemies Act, an action now under court challenge."

He's behind ICE arrest quotas, $50,000 signing bonus, and workplace raids
*"Miller urged the agents to “just go out there and arrest illegal aliens,” without bothering with targeted lists, according to people familiar with the meeting. Miller’s comments marked the start of a more aggressive enforcement campaign focused on progressive, Democratic Party-led cities."
*"He demanded 3,000 arrests a day—a number deemed unrealistic by many federal agents—and came up with the idea of offering recruitment bonuses as high as $50,000 for thousands of new ICE agents."
*"Miller pushed for sweeps at Home Depot and other spots where day workers gather, though Trump has at times been asked to temper raids at businesses."
*"Following immigration arrests in September by federal agents at a Hyundai Motor factory in Georgia, Republican Gov. Brian Kemp called the president and asked for the release of 300 South Korean workers, according to administration officials. The president publicly said he opposed the raid and told Kemp privately that he didn’t know it was happening. He told aides repeatedly that he didn’t want any more sweeps at factories or farms, the officials said. Even after Trump signaled his displeasure, Miller continued to argue for large raids, according to people familiar with the discussions. He wanted the administration to surpass the 400,000 deportations tallied in 2014 under former President Barack Obama."  

He doesn't leave a paper/electronic trail of his communications
"Miller rarely leaves a written trail of his orders, using Signal, an encrypted voice and text-messaging app, to communicate." 

He "manages" the president
"His authority, officials said, derives from his ability to manage the president."
*Example of how he "managed" Trump into bringing the NG into DC: "He often uses gory images to persuade Trump. After a Department of Government Efficiency staffer, Edward Coristine, also known as “Big Balls,” was beaten in an attempted carjacking last summer, Miller brought the president a large photo of the bloodied man and told him that crime in Washington was climbing. Trump soon posted the photo himself on social media, and deployed the National Guard, saying it was necessary to make the city safe." 

After killing of Charlie Kirk, he:
*was behind EO "targeting liberal groups he said were promoting political violence
*pushed Treasury Dep. officials to target liberal groups by investigating their financing the same was foreign terrorist organizations were investigated after 9/11 attacks

He commented on foreign policy issues on TV, without prior approval from Trump
*boasted on CNN that the U.S. could pursue Trump’s ambitions to control the Arctic with an invasion
*talked about Venezuela, prompting Trump to ask aides why Miller was speaking. “He doesn’t do foreign policy,” Trump said, according to a senior administration official. 

https://apple.news/AL2Z5BvQwRq2lRlDKuHsGmw


We have known every one of these items since they took place. Many of us have been yelling that Miller (and Vought) are the "worst of the worst" since early last year. Why would anything change now? I don't know what power Miller has over Trump. It may just be that he is intelligent and Trump is supremely ignorant and lazy and has no interest in the job. It may be that he is very good at keeping Trump in the dark and everyone else is afraid of him.

Anyway, I'll believe that the knives are out when I see it.


Why would anything change now?

Congress. Republicans in Congress are obviously increasingly nervous and at times aghast at what's been happening.

I mean, the GOP totally caved on the budget/ICE funding this week. They even set themselves up for a white hot spotlight to be focused totally on DHS/ICE. Everything else is funded - there aren't going to be any tales of woe about soldiers going without pay, or the IRS being offline during tax season.

And DHS funding includes FEMA and TSA. So in less than two weeks travel could be thrown into chaos and this regime is one natural disaster away from its own Katrina.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stephen Miller us so talented he manages to be a Jew and a Nazi at the same time.


This, exactly.

I know someone who had to work for him.

He was petrifying even before he had this much power.
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Anonymous wrote:You all realize that Miller is the evil mastermind behind the impending fascist regime? It’s happening. Enjoy your stupid cult, MAGA.


If Trump knew that his positive rating would increase by 40 point if he dumped Miller do you think he would do it?

Never. Dumping Miller would be an admission that he hired the wrong person. It's the same reason Hegseth and Noem still have jobs.


Nothing Trump ever does is an admission. Brand the guy a traitor, throw him under the bus, and make a big flashy show of punishment. MAGA will go along like they’ve gone along every other time. And maybe you’ll get some Independents and “if only Dear Leader knew” idiots back in your fold, too.

It’s a win win for Trump.
Anonymous
He has said that the person who should win is whoever is strongest (“might makes right”), which is such a brutish, uncivilized approach to leadership.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Stephen Miller: "Eventually elections don’t carry the day because violence beats votes… When we see a muscular response from the federal government, it’s because we’re not going to let violence beat votes."

Is he implying federal intervention determines political legitimacy, not ballots or courts?
He is saying he won't let Democrats destroy democracy through violence by their street militias.

In Chicago they planned an attack on ICE, and the local police were ordered not to help. They want to stop the deportations by using these street militias.


Wow, you have to find some credible sources of information.
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Anonymous wrote:What is extreme? Bring 10 million people in through gamesmanship and the minute you deport 200,000, it's extreme?

No, I don't think so.


Remember the bipartisan bill that candidate Trump told lawmakers not to vote for so he could have voters like you good and angry in November?

I do.

Talk about games…


Or, you could have just followed the LAWS on the books and not allowed them in, in the first place, in the name of your ideology.

Trump stopped the flow without any new immigration laws. As president, it's your job to enforce laws, not ignore them for your party's agenda.


Do you honestly think Trump and his DoJ follow the rule of law? Obey court orders? Honor their oaths to the Constitution?

How about the anti-corruption and conflict of interest laws?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Stephen Miller us so talented he manages to be a Jew and a Nazi at the same time.


This, exactly.

I know someone who had to work for him.

He was petrifying even before he had this much power.

What did he do as a boss? Other than being himself that is….
Anonymous
From everything that I've read or heard on podcasts from people who know Trump and who have worked at the WH, the one thing that might really get Trump to fire Miller is if Trump perceives Miller to be regarded as more powerful than him. Dems should openly refer to Miller as "President Miller" or "the guy who really runs things" and the like. Miller is drunk with power and will go too far one day. Even Trump has limits.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all realize that Miller is the evil mastermind behind the impending fascist regime? It’s happening. Enjoy your stupid cult, MAGA.


If Trump knew that his positive rating would increase by 40 point if he dumped Miller do you think he would do it?

Never. Dumping Miller would be an admission that he hired the wrong person. It's the same reason Hegseth and Noem still have jobs.


Nothing Trump ever does is an admission. Brand the guy a traitor, throw him under the bus, and make a big flashy show of punishment. MAGA will go along like they’ve gone along every other time. And maybe you’ll get some Independents and “if only Dear Leader knew” idiots back in your fold, too.

It’s a win win for Trump.

Something has changed though. In the first year of Trump's first term he threw lots of people under the bus. Some were because they were establishment Republicans (Priebus, Spicer), some diverted too much attention away from him (Bannon, Mooch), some because they failed to sufficiently protect him from Russiagate (Comey, Sessions), some because they got into scandals that even Trump couldn't defend (Price, Flynn).

Who's gone under the bus this year? Mike Waltz took the fall for Signalgate but is now UN ambassador. Matt Gaetz maybe?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You all realize that Miller is the evil mastermind behind the impending fascist regime? It’s happening. Enjoy your stupid cult, MAGA.


If Trump knew that his positive rating would increase by 40 point if he dumped Miller do you think he would do it?

Never. Dumping Miller would be an admission that he hired the wrong person. It's the same reason Hegseth and Noem still have jobs.


Nothing Trump ever does is an admission. Brand the guy a traitor, throw him under the bus, and make a big flashy show of punishment. MAGA will go along like they’ve gone along every other time. And maybe you’ll get some Independents and “if only Dear Leader knew” idiots back in your fold, too.

It’s a win win for Trump.

Something has changed though. In the first year of Trump's first term he threw lots of people under the bus. Some were because they were establishment Republicans (Priebus, Spicer), some diverted too much attention away from him (Bannon, Mooch), some because they failed to sufficiently protect him from Russiagate (Comey, Sessions), some because they got into scandals that even Trump couldn't defend (Price, Flynn).

Who's gone under the bus this year? Mike Waltz took the fall for Signalgate but is now UN ambassador. Matt Gaetz maybe?


There are two key reasons for what's changed in his second term:

1) The key staff he hired during his second term were chosen specifically because they are trusted MAGA loyalists. They are not the "normies" that were thrust on him by the GOP during his first term and who he feels betrayed him or did not obey him sufficiently. And he values loyalty (albeit a one-way one) above all else.

2) He apparently has a "no scalps" policy when it comes to the people he has personally hired. Firing them would be perceived as a "win" for Democrats, the media, or critics so he avoids giving them the satisfaction regardless of his true feelings about the person. He never wants to appear as if he is conceding to pressure to fire anyone.

Trump, famous for firing people, has parted with few top aides this term. Why?
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2025/12/18/newsletters/starting-point-trump-susie-wiles-dan-bongino/
bostonglobe.com
Anonymous
Lutnick bragged on an AllIn podcast interview that he was responsible for hiring all of Trump's team. It was a cringey listen even before his Epstein revelation. He claimed Trumps cabinet was chosen on their appearance and believability- my interpretation. There is a reason they are mainly Fox talking heads. It was strategic because they knew their base would continue to believe their lies and they also wouldn't be smart enough to question authority. I doubt it was really Nutlick that came up with this though- I believe it was Miller.
Anonymous
This one is easy: if you cannot get yourself to irrevocably condemn an individual whose identity as an adolescent was summed up by his infamous “why should I clean up after myself, that’s what the janitors are for!” screed, just go F yourself right now and start preparing right now for the fight of your life when this insanity comes to an end.

There’s not going to be any of that “when they go low, we go high” bullshit. What there IS going to be is making sure this can NEVER happen again.
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