H1B application fees now cost $100k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The job market for recent 2025 US CS graduates is weak due to AI and H1B. Parents in the USA spent 150K to 400K for kid to get a CS degree and kid is back home playing video games in basement at 22 years of age unemployed. That is the issue

Whose kid? What kid? Are these the children of unemployed tech folks in US, who were never at the top of their game and then got laid off several years ago? CS students who have not got job placements out of college are only 4% of all the CS new graduates. Even now, 96% of CS graduates are employed when they leave college. So those without jobs are either the bottom of their CS class, or they were depending on an amazing salary, or they have not applied far and wide enough, or they are not willing to work in smaller cities.

These poor performers are the ones who -
- a) felt the need to spend insane amount of money for a CS degree instead of having their tuition paid at a state school by earning generous merit scholarships.
- b) did not have the chops to learn the CS skills that companies need and fail in all the coding and personality tests/interviews.
- c) did not have tech or research internships in the summer breaks.
- d) are unable to be flexible learners and adapt to tech changes.

My nephew who granted is a weirdo has a Tech degree top school. He is annoying like in a Sheldon way. He got recruited a super major IT company right of of college, relocated and had stipend and big salary. They had him due a bunch of crap to set something up like a tons of hours and since he is a reject he spend all the hours in monk mode doing it for 10 months and then they told him he has 60 days to train his replacement how to do what he set up and gave him good severance or be fired on spot. He is back in Mommy and Daddys basement since July.

His case none of above is applicable. He is just not someone you want to ever work with unless it is a specific task you really need. And when done toss him. I hate to say that is a lot of people in IT

That’s big tech and you have yo plan for this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American grads are locked out of careers, while San Jose State University brags about being ranked #1 for international student job and green card outcomes.

OPT tax breaks, tuition profits, and stacked rankings, the system favors foreign workers while U.S. grads are left behind.

Read the full story 👉
https://wnd.com/2025/09/tilted-against-them-design-u-s-college-grads/

My friend”s son got a degree from that school. Unemployed for 2 years.

Maybe he’s not really trying to get a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American grads are locked out of careers, while San Jose State University brags about being ranked #1 for international student job and green card outcomes.

OPT tax breaks, tuition profits, and stacked rankings, the system favors foreign workers while U.S. grads are left behind.

Read the full story 👉
https://wnd.com/2025/09/tilted-against-them-design-u-s-college-grads/

My friend”s son got a degree from that school. Unemployed for 2 years.

My kids have graduated from State Universities without student deby, majored in in-demand STEM degrees, done pretigious internships and have made sure that they have the professional credentials and are gainfully employed. A 5% unemployment rate means that 95% of students will get jobs. So only losers will not get jobs here.

You sound like as As”””le. Our kids are doing equally well, if not much better than yours but we don’t judge others children. Calling any child a loser reflects poorly on our character as a parent. Sad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

I’m a second generation immigrant. I don’t hire h1b workers for many reasons. I have hired and mentored them in past but no more. They have poor work ethic and most are not as skilled as you might think. As soon as they hire on, they are looking for another job or trying to do two jobs. They are takers and carry zero loyalty. I now only hire US college educated (citizens preferred) and yes, they can be of Indian or any other descent. We are happy to pay more over hiring h1bs workers. You get what you pay for - as the saying goes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

I am a descendant of immigrants, but my spouse and I were born in the United States. Both our parents married US spouses, and thats how they got citizenship. We both work in big tech and medical fields and do feel that it's been overrun by H1Bs, both doctors and IT workers. This was acceptable when unemployment was low, but it's not the time for them now, as college graduates are competing with their low wages and are facing unemployment. Therefore, we don't see a shortage and agree to shut off H1Bs for the next few years.

Are MAGAs willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant? If this PP “agrees to shut off H1Bs for the next few years” then it’s not going to magically bring thousands of American doctors out of unemployment. And she says she works in “medical fields”.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:American grads are locked out of careers, while San Jose State University brags about being ranked #1 for international student job and green card outcomes.

OPT tax breaks, tuition profits, and stacked rankings, the system favors foreign workers while U.S. grads are left behind.

Read the full story 👉
https://wnd.com/2025/09/tilted-against-them-design-u-s-college-grads/

My friend”s son got a degree from that school. Unemployed for 2 years.

My kids have graduated from State Universities without student debt, majored in in-demand STEM degrees, done prestigious internships and have made sure that they have the professional credentials and are gainfully employed. A 5% unemployment rate means that 95% of students will get jobs. So only losers will not get jobs here.

You sound like as As”””le. Our kids are doing equally well, if not much better than yours but we don’t judge others children. Calling any child a loser reflects poorly on our character as a parent. Sad

Whatever, loser parent of loser children!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

I’m a second generation immigrant. I don’t hire h1b workers for many reasons. I have hired and mentored them in past but no more. They have poor work ethic and most are not as skilled as you might think. As soon as they hire on, they are looking for another job or trying to do two jobs. They are takers and carry zero loyalty. I now only hire US college educated (citizens preferred) and yes, they can be of Indian or any other descent. We are happy to pay more over hiring h1bs workers. You get what you pay for - as the saying goes.

OK, MAGA troll. H1B visa holders are tied to a particular job and company, so no H1B visa holder is in the market looking for jobs without express permission of the sponsoring company.

The only reason a company cannot hire H1B workers is because they cannot prove to the govt that qualified Americans are not available for this job. H1B workers are not your day-laborers standing in front of the 7-11s/.

[Anonymous]

https://www.jobs.now/

Companies employing H-1B foreign workers seeking a green card are required to advertise roles to American-born workers, but those job ads in local newspapers are allegedly targeting immigrants instead.

"Americans are not aware that major companies are routinely discriminating against them for the simple fact of being Americans in their own country," the team behind Jobs.Now, a website seeking out H-1B roles to share them with Americans, told Newsweek on condition their identities were kept anonymous.

https://www.newsweek.com/h1b-job-ads-green-cards-targeted-immigrant-workers-2113714

A mysterious new job listings website recently went live, solely showing roles companies want to offer to their H-1B holders seeking Green Cards in an attempt to get Americans into the jobs instead.

https://www.jobs.now/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

I am a descendant of immigrants, but my spouse and I were born in the United States. Both our parents married US spouses, and thats how they got citizenship. We both work in big tech and medical fields and do feel that it's been overrun by H1Bs, both doctors and IT workers. This was acceptable when unemployment was low, but it's not the time for them now, as college graduates are competing with their low wages and are facing unemployment. Therefore, we don't see a shortage and agree to shut off H1Bs for the next few years.

Are MAGAs willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant? If this PP “agrees to shut off H1Bs for the next few years” then it’s not going to magically bring thousands of American doctors out of unemployment. And she says she works in “medical fields”.

American doctors are not unemployed. There is a shortage of doctors in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

I’m a second generation immigrant. I don’t hire h1b workers for many reasons. I have hired and mentored them in past but no more. They have poor work ethic and most are not as skilled as you might think. As soon as they hire on, they are looking for another job or trying to do two jobs. They are takers and carry zero loyalty. I now only hire US college educated (citizens preferred) and yes, they can be of Indian or any other descent. We are happy to pay more over hiring h1bs workers. You get what you pay for - as the saying goes.

OK, MAGA troll. H1B visa holders are tied to a particular job and company, so no H1B visa holder is in the market looking for jobs without express permission of the sponsoring company.

The only reason a company cannot hire H1B workers is because they cannot prove to the govt that qualified Americans are not available for this job. H1B workers are not your day-laborers standing in front of the 7-11s/.

It’s always easy to game the system to hire foreign workers. You run an ad saying the US person needs to be fluent in some arcane Indian dialect because they will be dealing with offshore labor, even though all those meetings will happen in English.

Heck…my company made a complete bullshit ad for me to transfer to our London office and I am a white American. Even a company transfer to most countries require you to prove you couldn’t find a local and the way you do it is to tailor the job info ridiculously bespoke.

[Anonymous]

Someone wants American companies to be dismantled and work shifted to other countries. Hmmm....who could it be?

MAGA, I too love that you are poorly educated. It is delicious to see how your delulu brain works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

The point you make so well - H1B workers are willing.

They are resilient enough to do well with lower wages, they are smart enough to earn new credentials and skills, they are capable enough to live in US, speak the language, and paying expenses and taxes in dollars, they are super intelligent enough to learn new technologies while American students are falling behind in Math every single year.

Also, with just 30% of white men going to college, where do you think your future scientists, engineers, doctors are going to come from? LOL. Only thing you can do well MAGA is get your people on OnlyFans.

As for your statement "...we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"..." - Well, well, well - this seems to be a socialist, anti-fascist statement. Awww....do you want the federal govt back now? You want socialism? Govt subsidies? Medicare, medicaid, social security, food stamps, vaccines and Tylenol?

American workers are being gang-raped by GOP billionaires and CEOs. And MAGA is just their uneducated spot boy in the room where this porn is being made. Carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m third gen Indian. Grandfather immigrated here during the late 1950s on a student visa. In those days, Indian workers were prized and highly sought after by US employers for their incredible work ethic, professionalism, skills, etc. He had planned to return to India after his education however a major corp made a lucrative offer (and he received his green card within months after joining) he could not refuse it. Many of his college buddies did the same, but not all of them. Most all of the Indians who emigrated here prior to the 1980s were extremely talented and hard working. I recall most all being scientists, engineers or medical docs. It’s sad to see the Indian worker, and particularly h1b worker so vilified these days.

The vilification has happened due to racism and general inability of America and Americans to compete with the rest of the world, in hard STEM fields that requires intelligence and hard work.

The poor standard of K-12 education and general inability of parents to teach their kids at home means that many cannot compete in these subjects.

The vilification is due to resentment and jealously.

The vilification is because they are willing to pimp themselves out so cheaply and be manipulated for a visa. In the US the general term for that is a Scab (look it up- we may have a short history, but we have a long history of workers standing up against "the man"). The Indians undercut all of that. The Indian grandfather in this story, who came over in the 1950s for a lucrative deal, would be shamed by the system today.

I’m a second generation immigrant. I don’t hire h1b workers for many reasons. I have hired and mentored them in past but no more. They have poor work ethic and most are not as skilled as you might think. As soon as they hire on, they are looking for another job or trying to do two jobs. They are takers and carry zero loyalty. I now only hire US college educated (citizens preferred) and yes, they can be of Indian or any other descent. We are happy to pay more over hiring h1bs workers. You get what you pay for - as the saying goes.

OK, MAGA troll. H1B visa holders are tied to a particular job and company, so no H1B visa holder is in the market looking for jobs without express permission of the sponsoring company.

The only reason a company cannot hire H1B workers is because they cannot prove to the govt that qualified Americans are not available for this job. H1B workers are not your day-laborers standing in front of the 7-11s/.

It’s always easy to game the system to hire foreign workers. You run an ad saying the US person needs to be fluent in some arcane Indian dialect because they will be dealing with offshore labor, even though all those meetings will happen in English.

Heck…my company made a complete bullshit ad for me to transfer to our London office and I am a white American. Even a company transfer to most countries require you to prove you couldn’t find a local and the way you do it is to tailor the job info ridiculously bespoke.

Heck...but you are incompetent and will lose your job anyways. So, too bad that you are a "white" American - why is that adjective not striking fear in the heart? You seem to be a troll.