Texas Republicans unveil congressional map that could gift them five seats

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You would think that Democrats could find a state that isn't the most gerrymandered in the nation to flee to in order to protest..... gerrymandering.
LOL!

This is nothing whatsoever fair about the democrat-drawn 13th district; don’t you agree?

Illinois could do this if they wanted to.

We need blue states to do whatever is necessary to save the country.

The blue states have already gerrymandered the hell out of their maps.
Very little they can do.

Blue states with ZERO Republican House seats:

Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Vermont
New Hampshire
Hawaii
New Mexico
Connecticut
Delaware

Blue states with ONE Republican House seat:

Maryland
Oregon
Maine

Blue states with 2-5 Republican House seats:

Colorado
Minnesota
Illinois
Virginia
New Jersey

After that, you only have California & New York

The reason Democrats are screaming for Texas to stop redistricting is because Democrats have almost nothing left to gerrymander

They already rigged the map years ago and hate to see Republicans actually fighting back

Now do the red states with zero blue seats.
Let's also calculate how many people red state seats represent versus how many blue state seats represent.

At the end of the day, the minority in the House represents 56% of the population. The minority in the senate represents 56% of the population. That isn't how this is supposed to work.

This is the bigger issue for the GOP. After Texas there aren't many more games they can play to rig the districts because most red states are already heavily gerrymandered against Democrats.

Texas - already heavily gerrymandered, will be cartoonishly gerrymandered if they add 5 states

Florida - heavily gerrymandered

Wisconsin - one of the most gerrymandered states in the nation, Republicans hold a supermajority despite many statewide Democrat wins

Ohio - GOP holds 75% of seats despite only having 55% vote share

North Carolina - GOP maps repeatedly pushing racial and partisan bias

Utah - GOP-drawn map heavily dilutes Dem vote, particularly SLC

Arkansas - all 4 districts are GOP despite a significant Dem vote share

West Virginia - entire delegation is GOP despite urban Dem presence

Louisiana - GOP dominates the maps despite repeated court challenges

Kentucky - GOP drawn maps that heavily weight rural districts and dilute urban Dem votes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that Democrats could find a state that isn't the most gerrymandered in the nation to flee to in order to protest..... gerrymandering.
LOL!

This is nothing whatsoever fair about the democrat-drawn 13th district; don’t you agree?

Illinois could do this if they wanted to.

We need blue states to do whatever is necessary to save the country.

The blue states have already gerrymandered the hell out of their maps.
Very little they can do.

Blue states with ZERO Republican House seats:

Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Vermont
New Hampshire
Hawaii
New Mexico
Connecticut
Delaware

Blue states with ONE Republican House seat:

Maryland
Oregon
Maine

Blue states with 2-5 Republican House seats:

Colorado
Minnesota
Illinois
Virginia
New Jersey

After that, you only have California & New York

The reason Democrats are screaming for Texas to stop redistricting is because Democrats have almost nothing left to gerrymander

They already rigged the map years ago and hate to see Republicans actually fighting back

Now do the red states with zero blue seats.
Let's also calculate how many people red state seats represent versus how many blue state seats represent.

At the end of the day, the minority in the House represents 56% of the population. The minority in the senate represents 56% of the population. That isn't how this is supposed to work.

This is the bigger issue for the GOP. After Texas there aren't many more games they can play to rig the districts because most red states are already heavily gerrymandered against Democrats.

Texas - already heavily gerrymandered, will be cartoonishly gerrymandered if they add 5 states

Florida - heavily gerrymandered

Wisconsin - one of the most gerrymandered states in the nation, Republicans hold a supermajority despite many statewide Democrat wins

Ohio - GOP holds 75% of seats despite only having 55% vote share

North Carolina - GOP maps repeatedly pushing racial and partisan bias

Utah - GOP-drawn map heavily dilutes Dem vote, particularly SLC

Arkansas - all 4 districts are GOP despite a significant Dem vote share

West Virginia - entire delegation is GOP despite urban Dem presence

Louisiana - GOP dominates the maps despite repeated court challenges

Kentucky - GOP drawn maps that heavily weight rural districts and dilute urban Dem votes

You know this is nonsense because it is light on hard facts. For instance, California has maxxed out gerrymandering because Republicans get about 40% of the vote and hold about 20% of the Congressional seats. In MA, it's about 36% Republicans with ZERO Republicans in Congress.

Democrats are panicking that Republicans are finally willing to start playing the same game. With reduced apportionment coming with the 2030 census, Dems need to worry. Moreover, a Dem recently admitted that voter identification reduced Democratic votes. Imagine that: Democratic voters can't even present an ID. Such people should be disenfranchised.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Republicans redistricting hard. When you can't win fairly...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-unveil-congressional-map-that-could-gift-them-five-seats/ar-AA1JADro?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=7f1c90dc109d475c88285f6d195627e9&ei=10

Republicans have unveiled a new congressional map in Texas that would allow the party to pick up as many as five additional congressional seats, an aggressive maneuver that has already met decisive outcry from Democrats and comes as the GOP tries to stave off losses in next year’s midterm elections.

Republicans already hold 25 of Texas’s 38 congressional seats. But at the urging of Donald Trump, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, called a special session this month to redraw the state’s congressional districts. After contentious hearings across the state, Republicans unveiled their proposed map on Wednesday.

Had the map been in place for the 2024 election, Trump would have carried 30 of the districts, while Kamala Harris would have carried just eight, according to data from Dave’s Redistricting App, an online tool that allows for analysis of voting districts.

The map unveiled on Wednesday represents the most aggressive effort for Republicans. While analysts said Republicans could target three Democratic seats easily, trying to claim more risked spreading GOP voters too thin.

How can you possibly object to this, when Hochul did the exact same thing in NY just last year?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans redistricting hard. When you can't win fairly...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-unveil-congressional-map-that-could-gift-them-five-seats/ar-AA1JADro?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=7f1c90dc109d475c88285f6d195627e9&ei=10

Republicans have unveiled a new congressional map in Texas that would allow the party to pick up as many as five additional congressional seats, an aggressive maneuver that has already met decisive outcry from Democrats and comes as the GOP tries to stave off losses in next year’s midterm elections.

Republicans already hold 25 of Texas’s 38 congressional seats. But at the urging of Donald Trump, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, called a special session this month to redraw the state’s congressional districts. After contentious hearings across the state, Republicans unveiled their proposed map on Wednesday.

Had the map been in place for the 2024 election, Trump would have carried 30 of the districts, while Kamala Harris would have carried just eight, according to data from Dave’s Redistricting App, an online tool that allows for analysis of voting districts.

The map unveiled on Wednesday represents the most aggressive effort for Republicans. While analysts said Republicans could target three Democratic seats easily, trying to claim more risked spreading GOP voters too thin.

How can you possibly object to this, when Hochul did the exact same thing in NY just last year?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922

NY was the result of a court ruling.
Texas technically is in response to a DOJ letter that they are in violation of civil rights law, but we know the real reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans redistricting hard. When you can't win fairly...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-unveil-congressional-map-that-could-gift-them-five-seats/ar-AA1JADro?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=7f1c90dc109d475c88285f6d195627e9&ei=10

Republicans have unveiled a new congressional map in Texas that would allow the party to pick up as many as five additional congressional seats, an aggressive maneuver that has already met decisive outcry from Democrats and comes as the GOP tries to stave off losses in next year’s midterm elections.

Republicans already hold 25 of Texas’s 38 congressional seats. But at the urging of Donald Trump, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, called a special session this month to redraw the state’s congressional districts. After contentious hearings across the state, Republicans unveiled their proposed map on Wednesday.

Had the map been in place for the 2024 election, Trump would have carried 30 of the districts, while Kamala Harris would have carried just eight, according to data from Dave’s Redistricting App, an online tool that allows for analysis of voting districts.

The map unveiled on Wednesday represents the most aggressive effort for Republicans. While analysts said Republicans could target three Democratic seats easily, trying to claim more risked spreading GOP voters too thin.

How can you possibly object to this, when Hochul did the exact same thing in NY just last year?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922

NY was the result of a court ruling.
Texas technically is in response to a DOJ letter that they are in violation of civil rights law, but we know the real reason.

NY courts have zero credibility. They may be more partisan than the legislature because they are less accountable.

[Anonymous]

All this back and forth about which party has the worst gerrymandering policies is irrelevant. We're in a slow motion civil war, and the courts have decided to stay out of it. Neither party can (or should) lay down arms and curtail gerrymandering at this point. For my part, I'm hoping California, New York, and New England act quickly to eliminate all Republican-majority districts. The best long-term outcome is for states to become more uniformly Red or Blue, so that we can peacefully divide into two countries in the future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans redistricting hard. When you can't win fairly...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-unveil-congressional-map-that-could-gift-them-five-seats/ar-AA1JADro?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=7f1c90dc109d475c88285f6d195627e9&ei=10

Republicans have unveiled a new congressional map in Texas that would allow the party to pick up as many as five additional congressional seats, an aggressive maneuver that has already met decisive outcry from Democrats and comes as the GOP tries to stave off losses in next year’s midterm elections.

Republicans already hold 25 of Texas’s 38 congressional seats. But at the urging of Donald Trump, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, called a special session this month to redraw the state’s congressional districts. After contentious hearings across the state, Republicans unveiled their proposed map on Wednesday.

Had the map been in place for the 2024 election, Trump would have carried 30 of the districts, while Kamala Harris would have carried just eight, according to data from Dave’s Redistricting App, an online tool that allows for analysis of voting districts.

The map unveiled on Wednesday represents the most aggressive effort for Republicans. While analysts said Republicans could target three Democratic seats easily, trying to claim more risked spreading GOP voters too thin.

How can you possibly object to this, when Hochul did the exact same thing in NY just last year?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922

NY could have ensured the House of Representatives stayed with the Dems in 2024 and didn't. Why are you complaining?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this back and forth about which party has the worst gerrymandering policies is irrelevant. We're in a slow motion civil war, and the courts have decided to stay out of it. Neither party can (or should) lay down arms and curtail gerrymandering at this point. For my part, I'm hoping California, New York, and New England act quickly to eliminate all Republican-majority districts. The best long-term outcome is for states to become more uniformly Red or Blue, so that we can peacefully divide into two countries in the future.

Yeah right. There was violence in the former Yugoslavia for 10 years. There are nearly 200 armed groups in Africa.

The USA is not perfect, and it sure doesn't seem to be sustainable for too many more decades. But it provides stability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this back and forth about which party has the worst gerrymandering policies is irrelevant. We're in a slow motion civil war, and the courts have decided to stay out of it. Neither party can (or should) lay down arms and curtail gerrymandering at this point. For my part, I'm hoping California, New York, and New England act quickly to eliminate all Republican-majority districts. The best long-term outcome is for states to become more uniformly Red or Blue, so that we can peacefully divide into two countries in the future.

Off topic to the thread, but its not like the red states/GOP would let the economic engines of the country go peacefully. Without NY and CA, the US is dead oin the water. The GOP knows that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All this back and forth about which party has the worst gerrymandering policies is irrelevant. We're in a slow motion civil war, and the courts have decided to stay out of it. Neither party can (or should) lay down arms and curtail gerrymandering at this point. For my part, I'm hoping California, New York, and New England act quickly to eliminate all Republican-majority districts. The best long-term outcome is for states to become more uniformly Red or Blue, so that we can peacefully divide into two countries in the future.

Off topic to the thread, but it’s not like the red states/GOP would let the economic engines of the country go peacefully. Without NY and CA, the US is dead oin the water. The GOP knows that.

MAGA is too stupid to know where their interests lay. They honestly believe that California is sucking off the teat of Mississippi.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You would think that Democrats could find a state that isn't the most gerrymandered in the nation to flee to in order to protest..... gerrymandering.
LOL!

This is nothing whatsoever fair about the democrat-drawn 13th district; don’t you agree?

Illinois could do this if they wanted to.

We need blue states to do whatever is necessary to save the country.

The blue states have already gerrymandered the hell out of their maps.
Very little they can do.

Blue states with ZERO Republican House seats:

Massachusetts
Rhode Island
Vermont
New Hampshire
Hawaii
New Mexico
Connecticut
Delaware

Blue states with ONE Republican House seat:

Maryland
Oregon
Maine

Blue states with 2-5 Republican House seats:

Colorado
Minnesota
Illinois
Virginia
New Jersey

After that, you only have California & New York

The reason Democrats are screaming for Texas to stop redistricting is because Democrats have almost nothing left to gerrymander

They already rigged the map years ago and hate to see Republicans actually fighting back

Now do the red states with zero blue seats.
Let's also calculate how many people red state seats represent versus how many blue state seats represent.

At the end of the day, the minority in the House represents 56% of the population. The minority in the senate represents 56% of the population. That isn't how this is supposed to work.

This is the bigger issue for the GOP. After Texas there aren't many more games they can play to rig the districts because most red states are already heavily gerrymandered against Democrats.

Texas - already heavily gerrymandered, will be cartoonishly gerrymandered if they add 5 states

Florida - heavily gerrymandered

Wisconsin - one of the most gerrymandered states in the nation, Republicans hold a supermajority despite many statewide Democrat wins

Ohio - GOP holds 75% of seats despite only having 55% vote share

North Carolina - GOP maps repeatedly pushing racial and partisan bias

Utah - GOP-drawn map heavily dilutes Dem vote, particularly SLC

Arkansas - all 4 districts are GOP despite a significant Dem vote share

West Virginia - entire delegation is GOP despite urban Dem presence

Louisiana - GOP dominates the maps despite repeated court challenges

Kentucky - GOP drawn maps that heavily weight rural districts and dilute urban Dem votes

You know this is nonsense because it is light on hard facts. For instance, California has maxxed out gerrymandering because Republicans get about 40% of the vote and hold about 20% of the Congressional seats. In MA, it's about 36% Republicans with ZERO Republicans in Congress.

Democrats are panicking that Republicans are finally willing to start playing the same game. With reduced apportionment coming with the 2030 census, Dems need to worry. Moreover, a Dem recently admitted that voter identification reduced Democratic votes. Imagine that: Democratic voters can't even present an ID. Such people should be disenfranchised.

Wrong, and wrong (as is usual with you)

First, you're conflating vote share with gerrymandering outcomes while ignoring the mechanics behind them. California uses an independent redistricting commission, not partisan map-drawing, and its geographic vote distribution naturally favors Democrats in urban centers. Meanwhile, states like Texas, Ohio, and Wisconsin have GOP-drawn maps that consistently defy proportional representation: 75% of seats from 55% of votes isn’t just skewed, it’s engineered.

Second, you suggesting that voters who lack ID "should be disenfranchised" is not just morally bankrupt, it’s anti-democratic. Voter ID laws disproportionately affect the elderly, low-income, and minority voters, and there’s no credible evidence that Democrats "admitted" it suppresses their vote. If your argument hinges on stripping rights from citizens rather than earning their votes, it says more about your platform than the Democrats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gerrymandering needs to be illegal at a federal and national level.

The Democrats proposed a bill that did that and zero Republicans voted for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans redistricting hard. When you can't win fairly...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-unveil-congressional-map-that-could-gift-them-five-seats/ar-AA1JADro?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=7f1c90dc109d475c88285f6d195627e9&ei=10

Republicans have unveiled a new congressional map in Texas that would allow the party to pick up as many as five additional congressional seats, an aggressive maneuver that has already met decisive outcry from Democrats and comes as the GOP tries to stave off losses in next year’s midterm elections.

Republicans already hold 25 of Texas’s 38 congressional seats. But at the urging of Donald Trump, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, called a special session this month to redraw the state’s congressional districts. After contentious hearings across the state, Republicans unveiled their proposed map on Wednesday.

Had the map been in place for the 2024 election, Trump would have carried 30 of the districts, while Kamala Harris would have carried just eight, according to data from Dave’s Redistricting App, an online tool that allows for analysis of voting districts.

The map unveiled on Wednesday represents the most aggressive effort for Republicans. While analysts said Republicans could target three Democratic seats easily, trying to claim more risked spreading GOP voters too thin.

How can you possibly object to this, when Hochul did the exact same thing in NY just last year?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922

Good point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans redistricting hard. When you can't win fairly...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-unveil-congressional-map-that-could-gift-them-five-seats/ar-AA1JADro?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=7f1c90dc109d475c88285f6d195627e9&ei=10

Republicans have unveiled a new congressional map in Texas that would allow the party to pick up as many as five additional congressional seats, an aggressive maneuver that has already met decisive outcry from Democrats and comes as the GOP tries to stave off losses in next year’s midterm elections.

Republicans already hold 25 of Texas’s 38 congressional seats. But at the urging of Donald Trump, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, called a special session this month to redraw the state’s congressional districts. After contentious hearings across the state, Republicans unveiled their proposed map on Wednesday.

Had the map been in place for the 2024 election, Trump would have carried 30 of the districts, while Kamala Harris would have carried just eight, according to data from Dave’s Redistricting App, an online tool that allows for analysis of voting districts.

The map unveiled on Wednesday represents the most aggressive effort for Republicans. While analysts said Republicans could target three Democratic seats easily, trying to claim more risked spreading GOP voters too thin.

How can you possibly object to this, when Hochul did the exact same thing in NY just last year?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922

New York’s “new map” was based on the 2020 census, it just took forever due to legal battles. It wasn’t re-gerrymandered by presidential fiat. And if New York had actually gerrymandered as much as it could the House wouldn’t be Republican now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Republicans redistricting hard. When you can't win fairly...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/texas-republicans-unveil-congressional-map-that-could-gift-them-five-seats/ar-AA1JADro?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=7f1c90dc109d475c88285f6d195627e9&ei=10

Republicans have unveiled a new congressional map in Texas that would allow the party to pick up as many as five additional congressional seats, an aggressive maneuver that has already met decisive outcry from Democrats and comes as the GOP tries to stave off losses in next year’s midterm elections.

Republicans already hold 25 of Texas’s 38 congressional seats. But at the urging of Donald Trump, Texas’s governor, Greg Abbott, called a special session this month to redraw the state’s congressional districts. After contentious hearings across the state, Republicans unveiled their proposed map on Wednesday.

Had the map been in place for the 2024 election, Trump would have carried 30 of the districts, while Kamala Harris would have carried just eight, according to data from Dave’s Redistricting App, an online tool that allows for analysis of voting districts.

The map unveiled on Wednesday represents the most aggressive effort for Republicans. While analysts said Republicans could target three Democratic seats easily, trying to claim more risked spreading GOP voters too thin.

How can you possibly object to this, when Hochul did the exact same thing in NY just last year?

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/28/new-york-house-maps-approved-00143922

Good point.

Apparently neither of you can read.