Bryan Kohberger Pled Guilty

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He convicted himself. He should have pled not guilty. I think he had a chance to win.


+1


Based on what? The evidence was pretty strong (DNA, surveillance cameras, internet shopping history, cell phone data) and the defense had no exculpatory evidence or plausible alternate theory of the crime.

Xana interrupting him killing the first two is probably what got her and Ethan killed sadly, but I also think that is the reason he accidentally left the sheath behind, which was the key to the entire thing. But had she been asleep in the room with Ethan, I think BK would have only killed Kaylee and Maddie and likely would have gotten away with it.


Even if you have video of the killing, it's not enough for DCUM posters.
Anonymous
So what happens to guys like him in prison? Will the other prisoners fear/respect/loathe/disrespect/violate him? I know there’s a hierarchy in prison and wondering where a quadruple murderer of innocent young adults falls in that.
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Anonymous wrote:I will not judge grieving families.

But personally, I believe this person is a sociopath who feels no empathy or sympathy or any emotional connection to anyone. So any displays of emotion by his victims or victims' families just plays out to him as an interesting scientific experiment.

I believe this man murdered because he was fascinated by crime and he wanted to experience what it felt like, given that he's spent a life not feeling anything like normal people.

He's going to write a book in jail and it's going to sell.

Finally, if I had been a parent of a victim, I would not have given him any emotion, negative or positive. It would only be contributing to his real-life experiment.



Have you not heard of the Son of Sam law?
Criminals cannot profit by selling or marketing the stories of their crimes.


Found to be unconstitutional. Try to keep up.


Do you have any examples of recent murderers who have profited though?
Despite a change in law, is there any publisher worth their salt who is going to print this crap?
Probably not. And if he self publishes, there is no marketing budget to promote it


You need to provide some clear goalposts, i.e., recent.


That post says "recent". You're just repeating it, like its not there. Have you taken your meds today, grandpa?


I want to know what recent means before I provide an example.


ok let's expand the search for you, how about any time in the 20th or 21st century. I'd love to know of a murderer who profited after conviction, from writing about his crimes.

I don't think even Hitler profited from Mien Kampf.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Loved the last few sentences in Kaylee's sister's impact statement.


sorry do you have a link to this?


Its ok I found it.

big D's. etc


I think there are two Goncalves sisters. One didn’t give a statement but her mom did on her behalf. She said the sister hopes he gets los of “D’s” in prison. People politely chuckled but definitely a bit trashy. I’m wondering if she’s still in high school.

The other sister, Alivia Goncalves, gave a really interesting impact statement. I guess you’d call it a “roast”. Very different than a typical victim impact statement. Her last line - “You want the truth? Here’s the one you’ll hate the most: If you hadn’t attacked them in their sleep, in the middle of the night like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your f–king ass”


Yeah I understand her need to say this, but I'm pretty sure that pedophiles attack children in the daytime as well. The problem is, if the sending of insults is designed to make them feel better, they need to be better worded. I'm sure there must have been family liaison people at the court / in the policeforce who would have been able to advise on this.


She wrote the impact statement for Kohberger alone. Sure, she could've gotten up there are talked about how wonderful her sister was, how much they miss her, etc. But she knows that Kohberger is a true psychopath, unable to feel empathy or remorse. The only way to "impact" him is to hit his ego. So that's what she did. Out of all the heartbreaking things said that day, her statement was probably the only one that actually bothered him, because she insulted his looks, intelligence, ability to get girls, etc.

It is so scary that we live among people who can murder four young adults in cold blood and feel absolutely nothing. He's like a real life Hannibal Lector.


yeah that's kind of my point. He needs someone smarter than him to word something that is really going to cut to the quick. the sister who mentioned he will be getting lots of big D's actually did a better job of having an effect on him.
Anonymous
I love the Goncalves family! They were awesome!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I will not judge grieving families.

But personally, I believe this person is a sociopath who feels no empathy or sympathy or any emotional connection to anyone. So any displays of emotion by his victims or victims' families just plays out to him as an interesting scientific experiment.

I believe this man murdered because he was fascinated by crime and he wanted to experience what it felt like, given that he's spent a life not feeling anything like normal people.

He's going to write a book in jail and it's going to sell.

Finally, if I had been a parent of a victim, I would not have given him any emotion, negative or positive. It would only be contributing to his real-life experiment.



Have you not heard of the Son of Sam law?
Criminals cannot profit by selling or marketing the stories of their crimes.


Found to be unconstitutional. Try to keep up.


Do you have any examples of recent murderers who have profited though?
Despite a change in law, is there any publisher worth their salt who is going to print this crap?
Probably not. And if he self publishes, there is no marketing budget to promote it


You need to provide some clear goalposts, i.e., recent.


That post says "recent". You're just repeating it, like its not there. Have you taken your meds today, grandpa?


I want to know what recent means before I provide an example.


ok let's expand the search for you, how about any time in the 20th or 21st century. I'd love to know of a murderer who profited after conviction, from writing about his crimes.

I don't think even Hitler profited from Mien Kampf.


Thank you for the parameters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hill
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what happens to guys like him in prison? Will the other prisoners fear/respect/loathe/disrespect/violate him? I know there’s a hierarchy in prison and wondering where a quadruple murderer of innocent young adults falls in that.


His size will protect him from some of the prison violence and his superior intellect is likely to earn him protection from other inmates while he puts his criminology studies to work as a jailhouse lawyer which his residence in general population as a LWOPer will provide an abundance of clientele.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what happens to guys like him in prison? Will the other prisoners fear/respect/loathe/disrespect/violate him? I know there’s a hierarchy in prison and wondering where a quadruple murderer of innocent young adults falls in that.


His size will protect him from some of the prison violence and his superior intellect is likely to earn him protection from other inmates while he puts his criminology studies to work as a jailhouse lawyer which his residence in general population as a LWOPer will provide an abundance of clientele.



As someone who has actually worked with folks in prison I can attest that the only prisoners likely to not be at least a little fearful of a psychopath like Kohberger are the ones who are as crazy or crazier than him. If he keeps his head down he’ll likely do fine in prison.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Loved the last few sentences in Kaylee's sister's impact statement.


sorry do you have a link to this?


Its ok I found it.

big D's. etc


I think there are two Goncalves sisters. One didn’t give a statement but her mom did on her behalf. She said the sister hopes he gets los of “D’s” in prison. People politely chuckled but definitely a bit trashy. I’m wondering if she’s still in high school.

The other sister, Alivia Goncalves, gave a really interesting impact statement. I guess you’d call it a “roast”. Very different than a typical victim impact statement. Her last line - “You want the truth? Here’s the one you’ll hate the most: If you hadn’t attacked them in their sleep, in the middle of the night like a pedophile, Kaylee would have kicked your f–king ass”


Yeah I understand her need to say this, but I'm pretty sure that pedophiles attack children in the daytime as well. The problem is, if the sending of insults is designed to make them feel better, they need to be better worded. I'm sure there must have been family liaison people at the court / in the policeforce who would have been able to advise on this.


She wrote the impact statement for Kohberger alone. Sure, she could've gotten up there are talked about how wonderful her sister was, how much they miss her, etc. But she knows that Kohberger is a true psychopath, unable to feel empathy or remorse. The only way to "impact" him is to hit his ego. So that's what she did. Out of all the heartbreaking things said that day, her statement was probably the only one that actually bothered him, because she insulted his looks, intelligence, ability to get girls, etc.

It is so scary that we live among people who can murder four young adults in cold blood and feel absolutely nothing. He's like a real life Hannibal Lector.


yeah that's kind of my point. He needs someone smarter than him to word something that is really going to cut to the quick. the sister who mentioned he will be getting lots of big D's actually did a better job of having an effect on him.


I like several of the things she said, including:

“My sister Kaylee and her best friend Maddie were not yours to take. They were not yours to study, to stalk or to silence.”

“They’re everything you could never be: loved, accepted, vibrant, accomplished, brave and powerful.”
Anonymous
I wonder if his family knew he was capable of this or sensed something “off” about him?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I will not judge grieving families.

But personally, I believe this person is a sociopath who feels no empathy or sympathy or any emotional connection to anyone. So any displays of emotion by his victims or victims' families just plays out to him as an interesting scientific experiment.

I believe this man murdered because he was fascinated by crime and he wanted to experience what it felt like, given that he's spent a life not feeling anything like normal people.

He's going to write a book in jail and it's going to sell.

Finally, if I had been a parent of a victim, I would not have given him any emotion, negative or positive. It would only be contributing to his real-life experiment.



Have you not heard of the Son of Sam law?
Criminals cannot profit by selling or marketing the stories of their crimes.


Found to be unconstitutional. Try to keep up.


Do you have any examples of recent murderers who have profited though?
Despite a change in law, is there any publisher worth their salt who is going to print this crap?
Probably not. And if he self publishes, there is no marketing budget to promote it


You need to provide some clear goalposts, i.e., recent.


That post says "recent". You're just repeating it, like its not there. Have you taken your meds today, grandpa?


I want to know what recent means before I provide an example.


ok let's expand the search for you, how about any time in the 20th or 21st century. I'd love to know of a murderer who profited after conviction, from writing about his crimes.

I don't think even Hitler profited from Mien Kampf.


Thank you for the parameters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Hill


Well you failed. He was not convicted of murder.
Never mind.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what happens to guys like him in prison? Will the other prisoners fear/respect/loathe/disrespect/violate him? I know there’s a hierarchy in prison and wondering where a quadruple murderer of innocent young adults falls in that.


His size will protect him from some of the prison violence and his superior intellect is likely to earn him protection from other inmates while he puts his criminology studies to work as a jailhouse lawyer which his residence in general population as a LWOPer will provide an abundance of clientele.



As someone who has actually worked with folks in prison I can attest that the only prisoners likely to not be at least a little fearful of a psychopath like Kohberger are the ones who are as crazy or crazier than him. If he keeps his head down he’ll likely do fine in prison.


No he is going to be so f'd in the ass from day one.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what happens to guys like him in prison? Will the other prisoners fear/respect/loathe/disrespect/violate him? I know there’s a hierarchy in prison and wondering where a quadruple murderer of innocent young adults falls in that.


They will
Likely hold a mock hearing and then take away privileges etc.
he will be loathed and punished by inmates and guards.
I know because I worked in a prison.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what happens to guys like him in prison? Will the other prisoners fear/respect/loathe/disrespect/violate him? I know there’s a hierarchy in prison and wondering where a quadruple murderer of innocent young adults falls in that.


His size will protect him from some of the prison violence and his superior intellect is likely to earn him protection from other inmates while he puts his criminology studies to work as a jailhouse lawyer which his residence in general population as a LWOPer will provide an abundance of clientele.



As someone who has actually worked with folks in prison I can attest that the only prisoners likely to not be at least a little fearful of a psychopath like Kohberger are the ones who are as crazy or crazier than him. If he keeps his head down he’ll likely do fine in prison.


No he is going to be so f'd in the ass from day one.


You like to dream weird dreams.

He will likely be with the other weird guys. But if he shows his use of writing briefs, completing paperwork, etc. the other guys will absolutely use him to help with the legal process.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what happens to guys like him in prison? Will the other prisoners fear/respect/loathe/disrespect/violate him? I know there’s a hierarchy in prison and wondering where a quadruple murderer of innocent young adults falls in that.


His size will protect him from some of the prison violence and his superior intellect is likely to earn him protection from other inmates while he puts his criminology studies to work as a jailhouse lawyer which his residence in general population as a LWOPer will provide an abundance of clientele.



As someone who has actually worked with folks in prison I can attest that the only prisoners likely to not be at least a little fearful of a psychopath like Kohberger are the ones who are as crazy or crazier than him. If he keeps his head down he’ll likely do fine in prison.



I think he's too weird to keep his head down, and will be an obvious target for bullying.
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