Did your DMV private do better than Westminster Atlanta?

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly if they don’t get in a top 30 why bother. Wake Forest, Boston College Villanova, Tulane are 40-60. Go to UGA, Florida, Wisconsin or IU.

Because the actual education is far better at the private colleges. No one at our private even considers UGA, UGl, or IU.

The median student at those privates wouldn't hack it at honors programs at UF and and UGA. The profs are less involved at those privates too. Easy marks are found at private high schools and easily part with hundreds of thousands for the "prestige" of a private university outside the T35 (really the bare minimum to justify 400k in expenses over four years).

I’m a NP on this thread.
Why do you care so much? The graduates I know from schools like Wake & BC are all working on Wall Street. They’re in New York City and doing well for themselves. They probably would have the same outcome, regardless of where they went. Who cares? Their parents can easily afford it.

Thanks for your first hand observations. Statistically, a ton of grads from those schools are in student debt and most don’t work on Wall Street (I’m assuming you are including IT and HR).

I care because posters scoff at UF, a much better academic and social experience.

WSJ ranks UF at 194 for salary outcomes while BC is at 52 and Wake is at 139.

WSJ salary rankings are entirely ROI-based, though the ROI is based on average net cost of students.

The issues of self reported and DoE reported income rankings has been discussed many times. Most student data isn’t accessible and students don’t report it. Reasonable people don’t tell pollsters their net worth or how many times they do the deed with their spouse each week.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly if they don’t get in a top 30 why bother. Wake Forest, Boston College Villanova, Tulane are 40-60. Go to UGA, Florida, Wisconsin or IU.

Because the actual education is far better at the private colleges. No one at our private even considers UGA, UGl, or IU.

The median student at those privates wouldn't hack it at honors programs at UF and and UGA. The profs are less involved at those privates too. Easy marks are found at private high schools and easily part with hundreds of thousands for the "prestige" of a private university outside the T35 (really the bare minimum to justify 400k in expenses over four years).

I’m a NP on this thread.
Why do you care so much? The graduates I know from schools like Wake & BC are all working on Wall Street. They’re in New York City and doing well for themselves. They probably would have the same outcome, regardless of where they went. Who cares? Their parents can easily afford it.

Thanks for your first hand observations. Statistically, a ton of grads from those schools are in student debt and most don’t work on Wall Street (I’m assuming you are including IT and HR).

I care because posters scoff at UF, a much better academic and social experience.

Hard to take someone seriously who thinks U of online classes offers a stellar education. They don’t even provide housing to all their freshman. Maybe you’ll find some likeminded posters over on Truth Social.

Sorry if your idea of great freshmen housing is a priest serving as a residence hall advisor. The kids are 18 and can live in a luxury apartment next to campus with a private pool. Not everyone wants to relive summer camp freshman year.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally gone off point, but the purpose of public universities is to educate as many kids as possible at the lowest price possible, which benefits society overall. But only a few offer an experience comparable to private universities — Berkeley, GaTech, UVA, UNC, UCLA, Michigan, and William and Mary. The rest are vastly overrated by the current USNews criteria.

None of those publics offer the “experience” of a top private university.

Now, they do provide the same opportunities for graduates, but the college experience will be very different at GA Tech vs MIT or CMU.

Some may think that experience is better, some may think worse…but it will be quite different.

A top private is a T20. Nova BC WF are very different from those schools and lack the same intellectual caliber.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly if they don’t get in a top 30 why bother. Wake Forest, Boston College Villanova, Tulane are 40-60. Go to UGA, Florida, Wisconsin or IU.

Because the actual education is far better at the private colleges. No one at our private even considers UGA, UGl, or IU.

The median student at those privates wouldn't hack it at honors programs at UF and and UGA. The profs are less involved at those privates too. Easy marks are found at private high schools and easily part with hundreds of thousands for the "prestige" of a private university outside the T35 (really the bare minimum to justify 400k in expenses over four years).

I’m a NP on this thread.
Why do you care so much? The graduates I know from schools like Wake & BC are all working on Wall Street. They’re in New York City and doing well for themselves. They probably would have the same outcome, regardless of where they went. Who cares? Their parents can easily afford it.

Thanks for your first hand observations. Statistically, a ton of grads from those schools are in student debt and most don’t work on Wall Street (I’m assuming you are including IT and HR).

I care because posters scoff at UF, a much better academic and social experience.

WSJ ranks UF at 194 for salary outcomes while BC is at 52 and Wake is at 139.

WSJ salary rankings are entirely ROI-based, though the ROI is based on average net cost of students.

The issues of self reported and DoE reported income rankings has been discussed many times. Most student data isn’t accessible and students don’t report it. Reasonable people don’t tell pollsters their net worth or how many times they do the deed with their spouse each week.

The WSJ relied on neither of those. Feel free to research their methodology vs just spewing bullshit.

In your response you didn’t provide anything to support UF salary outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally gone off point, but the purpose of public universities is to educate as many kids as possible at the lowest price possible, which benefits society overall. But only a few offer an experience comparable to private universities — Berkeley, GaTech, UVA, UNC, UCLA, Michigan, and William and Mary. The rest are vastly overrated by the current USNews criteria.

None of those publics offer the “experience” of a top private university.

Now, they do provide the same opportunities for graduates, but the college experience will be very different at GA Tech vs MIT or CMU.

Some may think that experience is better, some may think worse…but it will be quite different.

A top private is a T20. Nova BC WF are very different from those schools and lack the same intellectual caliber.

The PP post had nothing to do with those schools, so not sure why these were interjected.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly if they don’t get in a top 30 why bother. Wake Forest, Boston College Villanova, Tulane are 40-60. Go to UGA, Florida, Wisconsin or IU.

Because the actual education is far better at the private colleges. No one at our private even considers UGA, UGl, or IU.

It is tough to break the addiction to private. If you are used to paying for K-12 education, you definitely do not want to be looked down upon during the next 4 years.

Huh. Its not "looking down".
Its the right fit.
My kids went private T20 after private HS. They had public flagships options in T25 as well and passed them by.
Not the right "fit" for my kids.

Yankee transplant on GA. People in the South don’t look down on the SEC schools and other top Southern flagships. Many prefer them to the Northern privates for a number of reasons. It’s probably more common for graduates of private Southern high schools to attend their state flagship.

I think for both Westminster and Lovett, that 88% of grads went OOS for college.

I wonder how many of the kids who went OOS are at Auburn/Alabama/USC/Clemson/UTK/Ole Miss or at Southern SLAC’s. That’s a different experience/choice than going to a place like Michigan or Amherst.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly if they don’t get in a top 30 why bother. Wake Forest, Boston College Villanova, Tulane are 40-60. Go to UGA, Florida, Wisconsin or IU.

Because the actual education is far better at the private colleges. No one at our private even considers UGA, UGl, or IU.

The median student at those privates wouldn't hack it at honors programs at UF and and UGA. The profs are less involved at those privates too. Easy marks are found at private high schools and easily part with hundreds of thousands for the "prestige" of a private university outside the T35 (really the bare minimum to justify 400k in expenses over four years).

I’m a NP on this thread.
Why do you care so much? The graduates I know from schools like Wake & BC are all working on Wall Street. They’re in New York City and doing well for themselves. They probably would have the same outcome, regardless of where they went. Who cares? Their parents can easily afford it.

Thanks for your first hand observations. Statistically, a ton of grads from those schools are in student debt and most don’t work on Wall Street (I’m assuming you are including IT and HR).

I care because posters scoff at UF, a much better academic and social experience.

WSJ ranks UF at 194 for salary outcomes while BC is at 52 and Wake is at 139.

WSJ salary rankings are entirely ROI-based, though the ROI is based on average net cost of students.

The issues of self reported and DoE reported income rankings has been discussed many times. Most student data isn’t accessible and students don’t report it. Reasonable people don’t tell pollsters their net worth or how many times they do the deed with their spouse each week.

The WSJ relied on neither of those. Feel free to research their methodology vs just spewing bullshit.

In your response you didn’t provide anything to support UF salary outcomes.

What data does the WSJ have access to then if it isn’t self reported income or Dept of Education income data from students who took out loans? Did they subpoena all graduates and get their W-2 and K-1s?

I’m not going to argue with you over worthless data sets. UF grads have better things to do then send strangers their personal finances

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally gone off point, but the purpose of public universities is to educate as many kids as possible at the lowest price possible, which benefits society overall. But only a few offer an experience comparable to private universities — Berkeley, GaTech, UVA, UNC, UCLA, Michigan, and William and Mary. The rest are vastly overrated by the current USNews criteria.

None of those publics offer the “experience” of a top private university.

Now, they do provide the same opportunities for graduates, but the college experience will be very different at GA Tech vs MIT or CMU.

Some may think that experience is better, some may think worse…but it will be quite different.

A top private is a T20. Nova BC WF are very different from those schools and lack the same intellectual caliber.

Keep telling yourself that little dude.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has totally gone off point, but the purpose of public universities is to educate as many kids as possible at the lowest price possible, which benefits society overall. But only a few offer an experience comparable to private universities — Berkeley, GaTech, UVA, UNC, UCLA, Michigan, and William and Mary. The rest are vastly overrated by the current USNews criteria.

None of those publics offer the “experience” of a top private university.

Now, they do provide the same opportunities for graduates, but the college experience will be very different at GA Tech vs MIT or CMU.

Some may think that experience is better, some may think worse…but it will be quite different.

A top private is a T20. Nova BC WF are very different from those schools and lack the same intellectual caliber.

Keep telling yourself that little dude.

Can you please explain how those three schools are comparable to T20 schools? And how that is reflected in the enrollment trends of cross-admits?

- T20 Alumnus and Parent

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Factually BC, Wake, and Nova are nowhere near a top 25 school. The difference between a ND and Vandy is huge. And the overall college atmosphere at UGA, Wisconsin, UTexas , or Florida is much better than those 3 privates at $90k a year.

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Anonymous wrote:Factually BC, Wake, and Nova are nowhere near a top 25 school. The difference between a ND and Vandy is huge. And the overall college atmosphere at UGA, Wisconsin, UTexas , or Florida is much better than those 3 privates at $90k a year.

Didn’t realize there was that big a gap between ND and Vandy.

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Difference between ND and a Vandy vs a Wake, BC, and Nova is huge.

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly if they don’t get in a top 30 why bother. Wake Forest, Boston College Villanova, Tulane are 40-60. Go to UGA, Florida, Wisconsin or IU.

Because the actual education is far better at the private colleges. No one at our private even considers UGA, UGl, or IU.

The median student at those privates wouldn't hack it at honors programs at UF and and UGA. The profs are less involved at those privates too. Easy marks are found at private high schools and easily part with hundreds of thousands for the "prestige" of a private university outside the T35 (really the bare minimum to justify 400k in expenses over four years).

I’m a NP on this thread.
Why do you care so much? The graduates I know from schools like Wake & BC are all working on Wall Street. They’re in New York City and doing well for themselves. They probably would have the same outcome, regardless of where they went. Who cares? Their parents can easily afford it.

Thanks for your first hand observations. Statistically, a ton of grads from those schools are in student debt and most don’t work on Wall Street (I’m assuming you are including IT and HR).

I care because posters scoff at UF, a much better academic and social experience.

I am not including IT and HR. And only talking about the few kids (males) I personally know. High-achieving kids studying finance and business at both. Ended up doing really well. Can't speak to everyone's experience, probably. They also had great personal networks coming from our private HS.
It would have likely been the same outcome wherever they went.

It doesn't matter.

Now some sweeping gender implications. What did the female kids there do, get an Mrs. and abstain from birth control?

Weirdo

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Anonymous wrote:Exactly if they don’t get in a top 30 why bother. Wake Forest, Boston College Villanova, Tulane are 40-60. Go to UGA, Florida, Wisconsin or IU.

Because the actual education is far better at the private colleges. No one at our private even considers UGA, UGl, or IU.

The median student at those privates wouldn't hack it at honors programs at UF and and UGA. The profs are less involved at those privates too. Easy marks are found at private high schools and easily part with hundreds of thousands for the "prestige" of a private university outside the T35 (really the bare minimum to justify 400k in expenses over four years).

I’m a NP on this thread.
Why do you care so much? The graduates I know from schools like Wake & BC are all working on Wall Street. They’re in New York City and doing well for themselves. They probably would have the same outcome, regardless of where they went. Who cares? Their parents can easily afford it.

Thanks for your first hand observations. Statistically, a ton of grads from those schools are in student debt and most don’t work on Wall Street (I’m assuming you are including IT and HR).

I care because posters scoff at UF, a much better academic and social experience.

WSJ ranks UF at 194 for salary outcomes while BC is at 52 and Wake is at 139.

WSJ salary rankings are entirely ROI-based, though the ROI is based on average net cost of students.

The issues of self reported and DoE reported income rankings has been discussed many times. Most student data isn’t accessible and students don’t report it. Reasonable people don’t tell pollsters their net worth or how many times they do the deed with their spouse each week.

The WSJ relied on neither of those. Feel free to research their methodology vs just spewing bullshit.

In your response you didn’t provide anything to support UF salary outcomes.

What data does the WSJ have access to then if it isn’t self reported income or Dept of Education income data from students who took out loans? Did they subpoena all graduates and get their W-2 and K-1s?

I’m not going to argue with you over worthless data sets. UF grads have better things to do then send strangers their personal finances

Considering the generally crappy jobs they get…seems like they have plenty of free time.

Of course you won’t argue…you have nothing to support your argument. You are so lazy you can’t even Google the WSJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Factually BC, Wake, and Nova are nowhere near a top 25 school. The difference between a ND and Vandy is huge. And the overall college atmosphere at UGA, Wisconsin, UTexas , or Florida is much better than those 3 privates at $90k a year.

You sound out of touch?

In consulting, there is no difference hrs Vanderbilt and ND. Heavily recruit from both. And they are generally great hires.
Unless top of class, I’m not hiring kids from those public’s (maybe from Mccombs). Not looking or recruiting from the others.
Wisco grads usually funneled into corporate finance back office jobs or supply chain management positions.