How likely for save act to pass senate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

Let's see the cites for this rather than an anonymous assertion.

[Anonymous]

I love getting my ballot in the mail. I hope they don’t take that away. I will not go to polling station

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love getting my ballot in the mail. I hope they don’t take that away. I will not go to polling station

This is only about registering to vote, so if you move states, for example.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

Let's see the cites for this rather than an anonymous assertion.

Getting an ID is a hardship in itself. They are time consuming, not accessible in all parts of the country, getting to them could be a major PITA for many people in rural areas and it costs money to drive/take a bus/take time off work etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love getting my ballot in the mail. I hope they don’t take that away. I will not go to polling station

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

There is only one other proof, the certificate of citizenship which is more $$. It’s true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

There is only one other proof, the certificate of citizenship which is more $$. It’s true.

Wrong!
A birth certificate is sufficient.
https://www.usa.gov/prove-us-citizenship
Get a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization
If you were born in the U.S., you typically need only your birth certificate to prove you are a U.S. citizen. You do not need to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization. These documents prove U.S. citizenship for people who were born outside the U.S.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love getting my ballot in the mail. I hope they don’t take that away. I will not go to polling station

This is only about registering to vote, so if you move states, for example.

and normally, you provide a birth certificate when you get a drivers license, but for some reason, the GOP doesn't like motor-voter laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love getting my ballot in the mail. I hope they don’t take that away. I will not go to polling station

This is only about registering to vote, so if you move states, for example.

and normally, you provide a birth certificate when you get a drivers license, but for some reason, the GOP doesn't like motor-voter laws.

Because drivers' licenses are also issued to non-citizens. In Virginia, you self check citizenship.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love getting my ballot in the mail. I hope they don’t take that away. I will not go to polling station

This is only about registering to vote, so if you move states, for example.

or if your named is wiped from the voter registry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

There is only one other proof, the certificate of citizenship which is more $$. It’s true.

Wrong!
A birth certificate is sufficient.
https://www.usa.gov/prove-us-citizenship
Get a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization
If you were born in the U.S., you typically need only your birth certificate to prove you are a U.S. citizen. You do not need to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization. These documents prove U.S. citizenship for people who were born outside the U.S.

That is a half truth. Because a birth certificate is not a picture ID, you need one to go with the birth certificate. One that has your name the same as it is on the birth certificate. So if you changed your name after you got married, your picture ID (driver's license, for instance) won't match your birth certificate, in which case you now need your marriage certificate also to establish that you changed your name. This is likely to disenfranchise women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

There is only one other proof, the certificate of citizenship which is more $$. It’s true.

Wrong!
A birth certificate is sufficient.
https://www.usa.gov/prove-us-citizenship
Get a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization
If you were born in the U.S., you typically need only your birth certificate to prove you are a U.S. citizen. You do not need to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization. These documents prove U.S. citizenship for people who were born outside the U.S.

That is a half truth. Because a birth certificate is not a picture ID, you need one to go with the birth certificate. One that has your name the same as it is on the birth certificate. So if you changed your name after you got married, your picture ID (driver's license, for instance) won't match your birth certificate, in which case you now need your marriage certificate also to establish that you changed your name. This is likely to disenfranchise women.

If you changed your name, you likely have a Social Security card that reflects that. This really makes it look like you think people are dumb. And, to get the name change on your drivers' license, you would also need that.

[Anonymous]

Not likely. It needs 60 votes. Thune isn’t going to abolish the filibuster for this. They could just do all their other suppression tactics like seizing ballots and intimidation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

There is only one other proof, the certificate of citizenship which is more $$. It’s true.

Wrong!
A birth certificate is sufficient.
https://www.usa.gov/prove-us-citizenship
Get a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization
If you were born in the U.S., you typically need only your birth certificate to prove you are a U.S. citizen. You do not need to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization. These documents prove U.S. citizenship for people who were born outside the U.S.

That is a half truth. Because a birth certificate is not a picture ID, you need one to go with the birth certificate. One that has your name the same as it is on the birth certificate. So if you changed your name after you got married, your picture ID (driver's license, for instance) won't match your birth certificate, in which case you now need your marriage certificate also to establish that you changed your name. This is likely to disenfranchise women.

If you changed your name, you likely have a Social Security card that reflects that. This really makes it look like you think people are dumb. And, to get the name change on your drivers' license, you would also need that.

Now, go over the steps for multiple marriages/name changes spanning decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind, folks, back last summer the State Department laid off 1300 people whose job was to issue passports.

Now their solution to the SAVE Act is just get a Passport? Really?

Just renewed my passport. Took way less time than they had said to allow. Filled form out and sent it by mail with tracking. Did not pay for it to be expedited.

And, if you were born here, why would you need a passport?

This Rep from Michigan just said the dumbest thing: that you have to change the name on your birth certificate.
Not true.

Some women do not change their names--no problem.
If you have a Social Security card and want to change your name, you provide a marriage certificate. This is not hard.

Do you ever want to receive Social Security? You need ID. Medicaid? ID. Welfare? ID Ever get on an airplane? ID.

This is a totally bogus attack.

Do better.

And, if you want to vote here and were not born here, you must surely have your naturalization papers.

This is a ridiculous argument.

Right. You renewed your password. That means you already had one. The voters who will get disenfranchised are those who have never had a passport.

You don't need a passport to vote. I posted that in response to the poster who talked about the cutbacks at passport office at State Department. Passport came quickly--and it was in December when lots of people are not working. and, according to the post, the cuts were made last summer.

And the rush will come AFTER the SAVE Act if passed and particularly next summer when people realize they cannot register to vote in the mid-terms as they have no passport, they don't have an authenticated birth certificate and cannot otherwise prove citizenship because all of the agencies responsible for issuing that paperwork are unbelievably overloaded with requests. Other people will not be able to vote because they may have a birth certificate, but isn't authenticated and they can't afford the fee.

Face it. This is a poll tax and imposes an impermissible burden on exercising the right to vote.

More authority? How about the US Supreme Court. Harmon v. Forssenius https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/380/528/

This is not a poll tax. People who do not have IDs in states that require them can get a waiver on the fee to get the ID.

A passport is certainly not the only evidence to prove citizenship. Where did you get that idea?

There is only one other proof, the certificate of citizenship which is more $$. It’s true.

Wrong!
A birth certificate is sufficient.
https://www.usa.gov/prove-us-citizenship
Get a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization
If you were born in the U.S., you typically need only your birth certificate to prove you are a U.S. citizen. You do not need to apply for a Certificate of Citizenship or a Certificate of Naturalization. These documents prove U.S. citizenship for people who were born outside the U.S.

That is a half truth. Because a birth certificate is not a picture ID, you need one to go with the birth certificate. One that has your name the same as it is on the birth certificate. So if you changed your name after you got married, your picture ID (driver's license, for instance) won't match your birth certificate, in which case you now need your marriage certificate also to establish that you changed your name. This is likely to disenfranchise women.

If you changed your name, you likely have a Social Security card that reflects that. This really makes it look like you think people are dumb. And, to get the name change on your drivers' license, you would also need that.

Now, go over the steps for multiple marriages/name changes spanning decades.

Oh, Please. if you change your name legally, you have documentation. If you don't have it and you did it legally, you can request it from the government or depts where it was filed. It is not that hard.