Their declines are very different, and ordinary people react very differently to each of them. Trump is still full of vituperation and wakes up in the morning eager to enact retribution on his perceived enemies. Biden just faded away during his second term. That difference in energy makes Biden "weak" and Trump "strong". A lot of MAGA voters don't actually care what Trump thinks or does, they care that he has enough energy to go after the people Fox News told them to hate. The bar is extremely low. So unless Trump loses his energy in a spectacular way, like Biden, he will not be diminished in the eyes of his supporters. Separately, economic travails will push Independents and non-MAGAs who had voted against high prices, away from the GOP. In my opinion, this White House has already lost a hefty portion of those voters. |
Me again. I just want to point out the rampant hypocrisy going on on both sides. It took SO LONG for ordinary democrat-leaning voters to see that Biden wasn't fit for the Presidency, even though Fox News and certain areas of the internet continually showed videos and audio of his decline (and we have Biden's inner circle to blame for that, and friendly news outlets who didn't want to do hard-hitting journalism). When one side pushes too hard, it creates a strong denial in the other. This is bound to happen again. Fox News will be the LAST outlet on earth to concern itself with Trump's senior moments, which means that the MAGA followers will not be aware of the extent of his problems. In my opinion, Trump will finish his term. |
Fox News mainly consists of lies, white male grievances, and political hatchet jobs masquerading as news, which means nobody with more than two brain cells puts stock in anything they say. They have no one to blame but themselves. |
All irrelevant. Biden, even at his worst, was better suited than Trump. Biden also surrounded himself with capable and intelligent people. Trump is allergic to it. More irrelevant because Biden isn’t the president, and Trump is. Biden wasn’t evil, Trump is. No matter how hard you weirdos try you’ll not be able to make future elections about biden. |
PP you replied to. I'm a foreign observer, who has been living in DC for many years, and hopefully not a weirdo. I am not discussing the policies of each administration and their relative merits. I am telling you how both Presidents appear to the outside world, and how that view is entirely skewed by both parties' respective bubbles here in the US. If you're a dedicated Democrat, you will have missed certain Biden missteps at the time they occurred, and then probably dismissed them later, until you could not dismiss them anymore. If you're a dedicated Republican, you are missing Trump's missteps now and will likely stay in denial for a very long time. Few American voters are able to take a step back and gain some perspective, and that's normal. I have the same problem when it comes to my European country's home politics! But I have much less bias when it comes to US politics. Feel free to ignore me, but I think you'd benefit from a little perspective ![]() |
According to the psychic I consulted, he won’t. 😘 |
DP. Actually history about Biden is being rewritten. When he ran in 2020, many voted for him as a “transitional” president to the next generation. While it made sense he didn’t want to exclude running again and being a lame duck for the first 3 years of his presidency, most democrats definitely thought he was too old to run in 2024 and said so a full 12-18 months before the election. It’s also true that even in 2024 many would have voted for Biden anyway, but with heavy hearts. |
I had my MAGA FIL tell me about all the high Federal Salaries and so I showed him the actual data. Didn't sway him. |
PP you replied to. I believe history may have been rewritten twice, in that case. Once when Biden was clearly on his way to a second term, and there was no significant pushback from the electorate, because politicians were afraid of speaking up, and the mainstream media did not unveil all the evidence they had that he was already slowing down, which was not entirely their fault, since the worst instances had been carefully hidden from view by his inner circle; and once now, when hindsight is 20/20, everyone reveals they had their own timely misgivings, and different people in his administration are playing the blame game and throwing each other under the bus. I mean, it's typical of how humans behave in these types of situations. All political parties and their supporters would, and have, behaved like this. |
Sanest post of the thread |
Nobody missed any of Biden's imperfections at any point. Even in 2020, we voted for decency and common sense, not a perfect candidate. You are not as wise as you think you are. I would take frail elderly and I'll Biden today over the monster in the White House. He is superior in EVERY possible way starting with the fact that he respects the office, he believes in the Constitution, he chooses competent Cabinet members, he is a predictable sane person who makes measured decisions etc etc etc. I am not saying he'd be my first choice right at the moment but of course I would take him over Trump any day of the week. |
If this had been Biden, it would be on loop on the right wing echo chamber for the next 18 months.
https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3lr4poekh3v2m |
There's three identical ones parked. He walked up to the first one. Sec Ser told him get in the second one. There's always identical ones so no knows which he is in security reasons. The others are decoys. |
The stumble on the stairs, Air Force one. Convinced that Rubio faked his stumble in order to help save face. How is that for covering up? Obviously aware he needs to do so, not a surprise. Hmmmm |