How long till the economy collapses?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope YOUR economy collapses. You all couldn’t just be content with your bureaucratic, do-nothing, $140,000 a year jobs—which the rest of us had to pay for.

No, you had to use the bureaucratic state to push left-wing ideology on the country in ways that were unquestionably illegal. Remember when you guys got military members fired for not taking the vaccine? (“No one elected Elon!” Interesting, now what about Fauci?)

So I don’t really care that you’re going to have to sell your Arlington home and go back to whatever LCOL town you’re originally from and try to start a new career at age 51. Sorry, not sorry.


You sound really unhappy, and your rage is really misplaced.

Part of joining up is literally giving up that kind of autonomy. You do what they say or you’re out, whether it’s because your CO tells you to get a shot for Covid or malaria or whatever or if they tell you to charge when bullets are flying at you in combat. I don’t remember any public servants cheering for people to be fired, and certainly the ones who developed a vaccine didn’t intend harm. It’s pretty bizarre to me that you want every single bureaucrat to be punished because of this one thing, a thing that helped us save lives.

It’s also bizarre that you believe those of us in the capital city wish harm on others. I was born and raised here. It’s my hometown, but I have aunts, uncles, cousins, in-laws throughout the US, including in red states. I don’t wish any of them harm, even when I’m upset with them, and I don’t cheer for their destruction, neither do my neighbors, including Feds, some of whom voted for Trump.

People, or maybe they aren’t really even people, say ridiculous stuff to each other online. But I promise you, there isn’t some secret cabal of bureaucrats plotting how to ruin lives. People go into public service to help others. These are people who have a lot of options, but chose this thankless, unglamorous work because they believe in our country, even when it’s not perfect, even when it’s very far short of living up to its ideals. I’m not a Fed. But the idea that my neighbors who are Feds are schemers or anything other than ordinary people with families, trying to do some good before they die, is absurd and it’s deeply troubling that you’re quicker to believe that than that a Billionaire who has made a fortune in government contracts is a disinterested party just trying to help the common American.





Sorry, but the vast majority of federal employees don't work in those jobs to "try to do some good." They do it because it's an easy 9-5 with decent benefits and they couldn't get hired in the private sector.


You really don’t get it, do you? Nearly all the Feds they just cut are easily employable and highly educated. They will be scooped up by foreign governments/companies as we continue our backslide into the dark ages.

Some Feds certainly choose the lower pay for a better work/life balance and “security.” They won’t now, and that’s to our detriment. We got talent we couldn’t otherwise afford.

Again, the deficit is still going to balloon, and Musk is going to funnel billions to himself through government contracts. His pet project is getting to Mars. That’s not cheap. And rather than going through the proper channels, to get this prioritized by our elected officials, or not, since last time I checked it was way down the list of the average person’s priorities, he’s just taking the money. Both at the expense of middle class government workers and adjacent industries across the US and at the expense of the Americans dependent on some form of the social safety net, including veteran benefits, Medicaid, social security, unemployment insurance, disability, etc.


Can you people please get your story straight? Will the “easily employable” fired Feds be quickly “scooped up,” or will their firing make the US an economic wasteland indistinguishable from Somalia?


Why not both? Why do you think that highly employable skilled government workers employed by foreign governments would conflict at all with the US becoming less prosperous, possibly sliding into a depression, and becoming, little by little a dictatorship / pariah state. Letting our governmental talent go is something we can't easily come back from. Witness what happened four decades ago with the air traffic controllers. We still haven't recovered as a nation from Reagan's hasty firing of them.


The GOP never learn from their mistakes. They keep trying the same plans over and over again thinking "this will be the time!" See trickle down economics etc. See no government regulation. Then Dems have to come in and clean up after them. And so on..
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Anonymous wrote:We've stopped vaccinating people in other countries like airplanes and boats don't exist.

We've stopped funding cancer research.

We are deporting our agricultural workers.

We are ignoring environmental catastrophe and getting rid of NOAA and FEMA.

We are alienating our allies.

All of these things have consequences. Life has been hard for all of humanity until the last 100 years and we have chosen to go back in time.


So tell me where you would cut $2 Trillion from? How do you suggest we get to a good budget situation? I don’t think you realize that we can’t continue on this trajectory.


I can tell you that cutting 2 trillion is not gonna happen by cutting USAID or NOAA. They are small fries. Those two are just to benefit Musk or to get back at people for holding him accountable.



+100

And anyone who hasn't figured that out yet needs to increase their sources for news...

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Anonymous wrote:Oh forgot the $2 billion losses annually to farmers because US AID won’t be purchasing their surplus.
it will come from the State Dept.


Who will be left at State to administer these programs? You think some random person is just going to flip on a computer and this all gets done?


Don’t worry, the 19-year old DOGE idiot savant is on it!


Is he the same one who fired all the people safeguarding our nuclear weapons and then couldn't hire them back because they didn't have contact info for them??

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Anonymous wrote:I hope YOUR economy collapses. You all couldn’t just be content with your bureaucratic, do-nothing, $140,000 a year jobs—which the rest of us had to pay for.

No, you had to use the bureaucratic state to push left-wing ideology on the country in ways that were unquestionably illegal. Remember when you guys got military members fired for not taking the vaccine? (“No one elected Elon!” Interesting, now what about Fauci?)

So I don’t really care that you’re going to have to sell your Arlington home and go back to whatever LCOL town you’re originally from and try to start a new career at age 51. Sorry, not sorry.


The people in Wisconsin and Arizona who lost their federal jobs or jobs with federal funding would like to have a word with you...

Some were earning just $40,000.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh forgot the $2 billion losses annually to farmers because US AID won’t be purchasing their surplus.
it will come from the State Dept.


Who will be left at State to administer these programs? You think some random person is just going to flip on a computer and this all gets done?


Don’t worry, the 19-year old DOGE idiot savant is on it!


Is he the same one who fired all the people safeguarding our nuclear weapons and then couldn't hire them back because they didn't have contact info for them??




If someone wrote a novel with this plot, no one would believe it
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Anonymous wrote:I love how fox news and oligarchs have turned us peasants against each other. Instead of building each other up we are busy squabbling while Elon just gets richer. Sad!

I remember reading in some book about the robber barons that Jay Gold said that “I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.” Crazy that we never changed I guess.


Exactly this. Elon grows richer by the minute and sqwauks out another infant. He is like the Welfare King with all his government contracts.


Elon is the ultimate Welfare King. He has become rich from our tax payments.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh forgot the $2 billion losses annually to farmers because US AID won’t be purchasing their surplus.
it will come from the State Dept.


Who will be left at State to administer these programs? You think some random person is just going to flip on a computer and this all gets done?


Don’t worry, the 19-year old DOGE idiot savant is on it!


Is he the same one who fired all the people safeguarding our nuclear weapons and then couldn't hire them back because they didn't have contact info for them??




If someone wrote a novel with this plot, no one would believe it


Truth.

If you write out a narrative of what Trump has done so far, it sounds totally insane and no one would believe it could happen...

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We simply don’t and can’t know. There’s so much slinging of doomerism and triumphalism. It’s too soon to tell.

Go talk to a neighbor. Go to Church and pray. Bake cookies. Cut expenses. Do a puzzle. Read a book.

But I beg of you, limit your internet time. It’s how we all got here.
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Anonymous wrote:We've stopped vaccinating people in other countries like airplanes and boats don't exist.

We've stopped funding cancer research.

We are deporting our agricultural workers.

We are ignoring environmental catastrophe and getting rid of NOAA and FEMA.

We are alienating our allies.

All of these things have consequences. Life has been hard for all of humanity until the last 100 years and we have chosen to go back in time.


So tell me where you would cut $2 Trillion from? How do you suggest we get to a good budget situation? I don’t think you realize that we can’t continue on this trajectory.


First, I would follow the law.



Thank you.

For example, I don't have a problem with getting rid of the penny. I do however have a major problem with doing so via a toilet seat tweet by the President.

The penny is minted in a small county in Tennessee. They are begging Trump to reconsider because the loss would financially cripple the county. The county voted overwhelmingly for Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/end-pennies-may-cost-jobs-trump-supporting-county-2029309
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We've stopped vaccinating people in other countries like airplanes and boats don't exist.

We've stopped funding cancer research.

We are deporting our agricultural workers.

We are ignoring environmental catastrophe and getting rid of NOAA and FEMA.

We are alienating our allies.

All of these things have consequences. Life has been hard for all of humanity until the last 100 years and we have chosen to go back in time.


So tell me where you would cut $2 Trillion from? How do you suggest we get to a good budget situation? I don’t think you realize that we can’t continue on this trajectory.


First, I would follow the law.



Thank you.

For example, I don't have a problem with getting rid of the penny. I do however have a major problem with doing so via a toilet seat tweet by the President.

The penny is minted in a small county in Tennessee. They are begging Trump to reconsider because the loss would financially cripple the county. The county voted overwhelmingly for Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/end-pennies-may-cost-jobs-trump-supporting-county-2029309


FAFO
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We've stopped vaccinating people in other countries like airplanes and boats don't exist.

We've stopped funding cancer research.

We are deporting our agricultural workers.

We are ignoring environmental catastrophe and getting rid of NOAA and FEMA.

We are alienating our allies.

All of these things have consequences. Life has been hard for all of humanity until the last 100 years and we have chosen to go back in time.


So tell me where you would cut $2 Trillion from? How do you suggest we get to a good budget situation? I don’t think you realize that we can’t continue on this trajectory.


First, I would follow the law.



Thank you.

For example, I don't have a problem with getting rid of the penny. I do however have a major problem with doing so via a toilet seat tweet by the President.

The penny is minted in a small county in Tennessee. They are begging Trump to reconsider because the loss would financially cripple the county. The county voted overwhelmingly for Trump. https://www.newsweek.com/end-pennies-may-cost-jobs-trump-supporting-county-2029309


FAFO
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I see that the president of Argentina wants to move their currency to crypto. People are not liking the idea...

He's also crazy. For example, no one can speak of his dead dog, who he pretends is alive.


The opposition are working on impeaching him. I guess they have bigger ballz there.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh forgot the $2 billion losses annually to farmers because US AID won’t be purchasing their surplus.
it will come from the State Dept.


Who will be left at State to administer these programs? You think some random person is just going to flip on a computer and this all gets done?


Don’t worry, the 19-year old DOGE idiot savant is on it!


Is he the same one who fired all the people safeguarding our nuclear weapons and then couldn't hire them back because they didn't have contact info for them??


Probably.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope YOUR economy collapses. You all couldn’t just be content with your bureaucratic, do-nothing, $140,000 a year jobs—which the rest of us had to pay for.

No, you had to use the bureaucratic state to push left-wing ideology on the country in ways that were unquestionably illegal. Remember when you guys got military members fired for not taking the vaccine? (“No one elected Elon!” Interesting, now what about Fauci?)

So I don’t really care that you’re going to have to sell your Arlington home and go back to whatever LCOL town you’re originally from and try to start a new career at age 51. Sorry, not sorry.


You’re pure trash babe. That military comment sounds like you’re a military pop ‘em babies alone spouse suckling at the teat of welfare. Italy my a$$.

PS: I’ve commented here before but I just got another job for 35K more than my six figure salary, love, 30 f-ing 5 K more because I’m done working for ingrates like the American public, you included.


You want to talk about useless entitlement? Military who retire at 45 and get gold plated healthcare and benefits for the rest of their life. Guess what? Elon is coming for you too.



This exactly. And so many of them want to be thanked for their service for just existing. A massive number of armed services jobs involve virtually 0 risk of ever being within 500 miles of a combat zone. But they get a golden early retirement for doing an office job in a uniform.

I find theres an inverse relationship between members of the military (and their spouses.. oh boy their spouses can be over the top) and how dangerous their job was with how much they look for gratitude. It’s usually the paper pushers who are first to tell you they’re a vet. I know one family whose military member, and father of the family, tragically died. The term “in the line of duty” is used… he died of a cardiovascular event in an office building in Arlington. That same family are huge MAGA and hate the federal civil service workforce with a passion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is not likley that the economy will collapse or even slow down in 2025. 2026 is possible. You do realize that almost nothing that Trump has announced will take effect.


The uncertainty around tariffs, government contracts, increase in Russian influence, Middle East chaos, and interest rates is certainly having a chilling effect on corporate America that will be felt in ‘25.

The amount of resources going into managing the tariff announcement of the day alone are costing MNCs money and causing a tightening of the belt. You’re already hearing CEO concerns in the first quarter earnings call.
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