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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.
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Anonymous wrote:Do schools look at section breakdowns? For instance, if kid did extremely well in 2 sections and good overall, will they consider the high percentages in some sections?


I'd guess it depends how many applications and spots they have. They'd look more closely if they need a reason to weed kids out or a reason to let kids in. You could always send in something addressing it, if you think there's a reason for the low score. But overall, the score is the score and you need to let the chips fall. I don't think many scores get examined by section breakdown.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?

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Anonymous wrote:Do schools look at section breakdowns? For instance, if kid did extremely well in 2 sections and good overall, will they consider the high percentages in some sections?


I'd guess it depends how many applications and spots they have. They'd look more closely if they need a reason to weed kids out or a reason to let kids in. You could always send in something addressing it, if you think there's a reason for the low score. But overall, the score is the score and you need to let the chips fall. I don't think many scores get examined by section breakdown.


that's too bad as my kid scored very high on one and not that high on the other section.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?



95th-ish percentile. I know several kids who scored around 90th who weren't accepted. It may vary year to year though.
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^ I think anyway based off off kids I know who have and have not been accepted.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?



95th-ish percentile. I know several kids who scored around 90th who weren't accepted. It may vary year to year though.


Boys or girls?

Racial demographics?

Catholic or not?

Public or private?

Any visibility on grades?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?



95th-ish percentile. I know several kids who scored around 90th who weren't accepted. It may vary year to year though.


Any chance the people you know lied about the test scores to avoid judgment/embarrassment?
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Anonymous wrote:Just got ours HSPT. It’s bad. Bad bad. Like below 40th percentile. Our child has an older sibling at the school we’re applying to, and has all A’s and B’s as well as extracurriculars. Scored very high on one or 2 sections but awfully low on others.
Are we screwed?
I am truly shocked. This child is not stupid but tested horribly.


Right there with you. Wondering if school prepared the kids poorly. It's a well regarded Catholic pk-8. Shocked.


My experience with our well-regarded parochial grammar school is they don't tell you where your student falls within the class. We have a probably an average to below-average academics student who we were told "he's fine" from K-8. Started suspecting maybe not so fine by middle school. Same refrain from school " he's fine." Had we known just how low he was ranking in the class - we would have done some intervention significantly sooner. His HSPT scores were abominable yet he was an A/B student. Looking backwards: it is no real surprise. But, had we known just how far behind some skills were relative to his peers - we would have pressed the gas a lot more, a lot sooner.

So, precautionary note to parents.... if you suspect your kid needs some academic intervention / skills work but your schools says "he's fine".... believe your instincts - not some well-meaning but overworked and perhaps disinterested staff that don't really care about your kid once he is off their class list.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?



95th-ish percentile. I know several kids who scored around 90th who weren't accepted. It may vary year to year though.


Boys or girls?

Racial demographics?

Catholic or not?

Public or private?

Any visibility on grades?


My feeling on it is that its strictly a grade and test score admit. I of course don't really know but I don't think they care if you for example have lower test scores because you were at a title 1 public school that offered a less rigorous curriculum. The couple of kids I know (including my own) were from public with all As and between 80 & 90th percentile scores. I wasn't expecting the bar to be quite as high as it seems to be. Someone whose child was admitted probably has more insight.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just got ours HSPT. It’s bad. Bad bad. Like below 40th percentile. Our child has an older sibling at the school we’re applying to, and has all A’s and B’s as well as extracurriculars. Scored very high on one or 2 sections but awfully low on others.
Are we screwed?
I am truly shocked. This child is not stupid but tested horribly.


Right there with you. Wondering if school prepared the kids poorly. It's a well regarded Catholic pk-8. Shocked.


My experience with our well-regarded parochial grammar school is they don't tell you where your student falls within the class. We have a probably an average to below-average academics student who we were told "he's fine" from K-8. Started suspecting maybe not so fine by middle school. Same refrain from school " he's fine." Had we known just how low he was ranking in the class - we would have done some intervention significantly sooner. His HSPT scores were abominable yet he was an A/B student. Looking backwards: it is no real surprise. But, had we known just how far behind some skills were relative to his peers - we would have pressed the gas a lot more, a lot sooner.

So, precautionary note to parents.... if you suspect your kid needs some academic intervention / skills work but your schools says "he's fine".... believe your instincts - not some well-meaning but overworked and perhaps disinterested staff that don't really care about your kid once he is off their class list.


What about the standardized tests along the way? Did they indicate anything? Our k-8 puts little emphasis on them but we still get the scores and they always helped me gauge how my kids are doing. The percentiles pretty much matched HSPT percentiles
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?



95th-ish percentile. I know several kids who scored around 90th who weren't accepted. It may vary year to year though.


Boys or girls?

Racial demographics?

Catholic or not?

Public or private?

Any visibility on grades?


DP but the kids from our Arlington diocese k-8 who get Scholars seem yo have 95th percentile and up. I’d be very surprised if they account for gender or other demographics.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?



95th-ish percentile. I know several kids who scored around 90th who weren't accepted. It may vary year to year though.


Boys or girls?

Racial demographics?

Catholic or not?

Public or private?

Any visibility on grades?


DP but the kids from our Arlington diocese k-8 who get Scholars seem yo have 95th percentile and up. I’d be very surprised if they account for gender or other demographics.


Admissions at the schools we applied to were clear that they balance for gender and race. More directly: they said they receive far more applications from white boys (probably since a lot of girls apply to all girls schools) from public schools. They were clearly trying to manage expectations.
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know what percentile you need to get on the HSPT to get into the scholars program at St. Johns? And is HSPT the determinative factor?

HSPT is a major factor for this.


How do you know?



95th-ish percentile. I know several kids who scored around 90th who weren't accepted. It may vary year to year though.


Boys or girls?

Racial demographics?

Catholic or not?

Public or private?

Any visibility on grades?


DP but the kids from our Arlington diocese k-8 who get Scholars seem yo have 95th percentile and up. I’d be very surprised if they account for gender or other demographics.


Admissions at the schools we applied to were clear that they balance for gender and race. More directly: they said they receive far more applications from white boys (probably since a lot of girls apply to all girls schools) from public schools. They were clearly trying to manage expectations.


Admissions does but I was talking about the Scholars program at SJC. I agree with you that admissions does (and should!) account for gender and other demographics. But I don’t have the same impression for the honors programs or even the learning support program.
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Anonymous wrote:Just got ours HSPT. It’s bad. Bad bad. Like below 40th percentile. Our child has an older sibling at the school we’re applying to, and has all A’s and B’s as well as extracurriculars. Scored very high on one or 2 sections but awfully low on others.
Are we screwed?
I am truly shocked. This child is not stupid but tested horribly.


Right there with you. Wondering if school prepared the kids poorly. It's a well regarded Catholic pk-8. Shocked.


An administrator at a Catholic high school told me you can't really prepare for the HSPT, which surprised me. Our K-8 definitely did exercises with the kids and the limited parents I've spoken to since scores came out this morning have been very pleased. So maybe there is something to the preparation.


DS attends Catholic school in DMV. Tested in 40s in spring of 7th. We hired a tutor for the summer and fall. Got an 85 (with a verbal score of 95) Tutoring absolutely helped!
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