Connecticut Avenue bike lane officially dead

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord



Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


Guess you should get a car then. Your kids could do even more that way.


You do realize that most parents in this city work, do you not? How the kids supposed to get around when their parents are at work? Do you really want them out there jacking cars?


Yeah, carjacking kids would have stopped if only they had bikes to ride instead. On that note, carjackings are down this year in some wards by as much 80 percent.

But if you had kids, you would know how school commuting works. The kids are at school for most of the work day. In Ward 3, where you are targeting, kids either go to their local walkable neighborhood public school or they go to the private schools. In both instances, there are a bevy of extracurricular programs that last until the end of the school day so parents can pick them up after work if needed. And WFH has made it easier to have the flexibility to pick up kids immediately after school.


How very sad for you. Here in W6 the kids walk or bike home themselves after school. Y’all are so retrograde.


Kids could bike to ward 3 if they wanted to, but they don't because a/they live close enough to walk and thus no need to ever go on CT Ave. Or B, they are driven by parents who drop them off on their way to work downtown, or by parents who don't work or by other caregivers. The point is the demand for bikes isn't coming from this crowd. Hardly anybody bikes their kids to school even when they live within walking distance because it's not convenient. And that has nothing to do with availability of bike lanes.


This is so false. Kids would ride if it were safe. It isn't because they are forced to ride on Ct Ave (during rush hour when they are coming to and from school) so suggesting parents only want to drop the off rather than having their autonomy, is simply wrong. Our built environment is not conducive to kids being able to ride safely for many of their daily tasks including going to school. It is a far cry from the world most of us grew up in, in that sense.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


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Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.

If that’s not your goal, maybe you should try to change your approach. Because all you’ve done through your current behavior of name calling and histrionics is to alienate people.
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DP, but histrionics are claiming that such changes are going to spell DOOM to the neighborhood. People said closing the slip lane in Cleveland Park would be the end of things, and yet, the stores there are thriving and the new "promenade" is busy at all hours of the day and night.

Bike lanes would do the same thing. Cars do not shop, people do. And the people driving those cars are mostly going to Maryland, not stopping off at one of the commercial areas to shop. Bikers on the other hand, are right there as ready customers and the studies show that adding bike lanes are generally good for businesses.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
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Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.


They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.

Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.

If that’s not your goal, maybe you should try to change your approach. Because all you’ve done through your current behavior of name calling and histrionics is to alienate people.


the histrionics were quite on one side. I’ve been through this rodeo more than once.
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Anonymous wrote:DP, but histrionics are claiming that such changes are going to spell DOOM to the neighborhood. People said closing the slip lane in Cleveland Park would be the end of things, and yet, the stores there are thriving and the new "promenade" is busy at all hours of the day and night.

Bike lanes would do the same thing. Cars do not shop, people do. And the people driving those cars are mostly going to Maryland, not stopping off at one of the commercial areas to shop. Bikers on the other hand, are right there as ready customers and the studies show that adding bike lanes are generally good for businesses.


that’s right. I’m old enough to remember when people acted like a citibike doc on a totally unused asphalt triangle park spelled doom. city just put the doc on an identical triangle half a block away and … amazing, no doom!
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.

Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.


They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.


DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience
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Anonymous wrote:DP, but histrionics are claiming that such changes are going to spell DOOM to the neighborhood. People said closing the slip lane in Cleveland Park would be the end of things, and yet, the stores there are thriving and the new "promenade" is busy at all hours of the day and night.

Bike lanes would do the same thing. Cars do not shop, people do. And the people driving those cars are mostly going to Maryland, not stopping off at one of the commercial areas to shop. Bikers on the other hand, are right there as ready customers and the studies show that adding bike lanes are generally good for businesses.


that’s right. I’m old enough to remember when people acted like a citibike doc on a totally unused asphalt triangle park spelled doom. city just put the doc on an identical triangle half a block away and … amazing, no doom!


https://ggwash.org/view/6647/lincoln-park-cabi-station-canceled-after-complaints
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.

Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.


They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.


DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience


This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.

Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.


They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.


they literally are the same
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone currently biking on Conn Ave today is not a typical cyclist. I've been biking nearly daily in DC for decades and am still terrified whenever I have to take Conn. The vast majority of cyclists are too scared to bike there. When there are bike lanes - which will apparently not be anytime soon - there will be many more people able to bike that way.


Bike lanes on Conn Ave are the ultimate in entitlement. Inconveniencing and slowing down traffic for tens of thousands for the benefit of a few hundred.


It's absolutely true that there are very few cyclists who use Connecticut - BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BIKE LANES! The only way to increase cycling is to make cycling safe. In the Netherlands, there is a great cycling infrastructure and cycling is widespread.

Of course, DC is not going to turn into the Netherlands, you say, because we're a car culture. True. As was Netherlands in 1971, when more than 400 children were killed in traffic accidents. It took a lot of work and many years to build safe cities there, as it will here. We should start now.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/05/amsterdam-bicycle-capital-world-transport-cycling-kindermoord


Then move to the Netherlands. And when you're too feeble to ride your bike anymore you can ask the government to euthanize you.
.

Or just move downtown where there are plenty of bike lanes and stop trying to screw up livable family neighborhoods.


What? I live in a “family neighborhood” (or at least that’s what I think you have in mind) and bike lanes are essential to protecting my children when they travel back and forth to school and activities. This is their only way to get around because they can’t drive, the bus network is pathetic, their parents are not privileged enough to have the time or the money to drive them around everywhere, and the notion of them taking rides when random strangers driving ride-shares doesn’t really appeal. How would you like them to get around? Or would you prefer them to just sit at home and pick up apart your obnoxiously idiotic claims?


They can walk.


It takes three times as long to walk as to bike, which would mean they could do very little in the way of activities.


Where do you live and where are these activities on Connecticut Avenue that they can't get to unless on a bike? How old are your kids?


Would you like a social security number as well?

The point is not hard to grasp, unless of course you know nothing about life in DC or are suffering from the cognitive dissonance associated with espousing policies that are deeply detrimental to the quality of life enjoyed by DC residents.

There is no way my kids would have been able to participate in the breadth of activities they’ve enjoyed across DC if they didn’t have bikes. We are somewhat cavalier perhaps in letting them ride on streets without protected bike lanes. But many other parents are not and I get that.


You didn't answer the question because you are probably single and have no idea what life is like with children in the k-12 range.


You’re a creep. That is why no one is answering your questions.



I didn't ask a question. Just a new person who noticed that you didn't answer a question and still haven't answered the question because you are out of touch and don't what it's like to have the demands of a family. You want to impose your selfish view on everyone just so that you can ride your bike -- and bypass other public transportations options -- to go drink your beer or latte. Something that those of us with kids are far too busy to do. And yet here you are posting on a forum filled with people with kids who just don't have time for your nonsense. If people need to get to work, there are existing bike options if they so choose. The demand isn't there and never was there.


Family guy here, not the one you have been answering with. Our kids ride, we ride, we would ride more if it were safer, which is why we support more bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue and across the city and region. We ride to kids sporting events - soccer and baseball, we ride to their music classes (no, not a stand-up Bass) and art classes. We prefer riding to any other mode because of the flexibility and exercise. Our familiy riding takes two cars off the road and frees up parking spots for those who have no other option but to drive, so drivers should be happy about our choices and support our call for a safer path for us.


+1

Anti-bike people are short-sighted idiots, to put it nicely.

Probably no better advocates against bike lanes and the bike lane advocates. Please keep doing more of what you’re doing. There will likely be several more policy victories, like removing already installed bike lanes.



Making a city activitely more hostile to bikers and pedestrians is not a “victory.” It’s actually pathetic.


They are making it more safe for pedestrians. Pedestrian interests and cyclist interests are not the same.


DP: I agree that they are not the same. This plan is going to push more bikes onto sidewalks, negatively impacting the pedestrian experience


This. I hate riding on sidewalks and always feel sheepish about it. No more.


Just resist the urge to ride like a complete a-hole and it will be just fine.

But if you insist on tearing down the sidewalk like a spandex clad cheetah screeching at everyone in “your” way, then you’re going to have problems.
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