Sidwell tuition 2024-25

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Anonymous wrote:The ones that they let in at 3/4 are admitted based on their parents educational and professional attainments. Many start with Ivy legacy status and plenty of money, so they are already ahead of the game compared to the typical kid.

They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the education that much better than Whitman?

Not at all.

Yes, it’s a much better educational experience.

It's an inferior academic product

That’s your baseless opinion. What’s important is that colleges agree with me. As posted upthread, “Sidwell consistently sends a higher percentage of graduates to Ivy+ colleges than the W schools.”

https://moco360.media/202...o-college/

Facts are facts, and opinions are like
a-holes…

What facts did you just show with your link? Did it show that "Sidwell consistently sends a higher percentage of graduates to Ivy+ colleges than the W schools"? Do you know what fact is, a-hole?
Idiot

You clearly struggle with reading comprehension. You must be a W school graduate. 😝

Again where in the link it shows that "Sidwell consistently sends a higher percentage of graduates to Ivy+ colleges than the W schools"?
Help me out

Did you click on the link? I’ll make it easy, just focus on Ivies. Select every W school, look at the number of applicants to each Ivy, and then look at the number of students admitted—simple math. Next, compare those numbers to Sidwell’s c/o ‘23 (about 80-85% of graduating seniors posted on Instagram). Sidwell’s posts only include matriculants to specific colleges. There are several Sidwell students who are admitted to more than one Ivy every year. Despite that fact, Sidwell sent/sends/will send a much larger percentage of students to Ivies than any of the W schools.

Yes and the link doesn't show the "fact" that "Sidwell consistently sends a higher percentage of graduates to Ivy+ colleges than the W schools". In fact the link doesn't have anything to do with Sidwell, much less showing your so-called facts. You clearly don't understand facts.
You're clearly not too bright.

Sticks and stones, dear.

I see those poor public W school matriculation stats have upset you. I cannot relate—lol.

Of course you cannot relate. We have more matriculations than you, without having to pay $50,000+ a year.
Like I said, you're not too bright.

Oh, I see you don’t understand how percentages work. I knew you were a W(oeful) grad—lol.

Cheer up, your children are used to public school, so they will feel right at home at Maryland state universities. It’s a good thing you didn’t “waste” your money paying for your children’s education at a W school. Based on these W(oeful) admissions stats, you would be absolutely enraged.

Let’s use Whitman as an example.
#Applications/#Admitted:

1. Brown: 41/0
2. Columbia: 29/0
3. Cornell: 67/3
4. Dartmouth: 20/0
5. Harvard: 28/0
6. Princeton: 25/2
7. UPenn: 63/3
8. Yale: 33/3
Total = 306/11

Whitman seniors submitted 306 applications to the Ivies, but only 11 students were admitted. That’s a 3.5% admissions rate!

On the other hand, this is how they fared at Salisbury (27/22); UMBC (148/130); and UMD (386/243).

Like I said earlier, I can’t relate. Sidwell can’t relate either because they send at LEAST 15-25% of their students to Ivies EVERY year (not to mention the total number of admits). Good luck!

1. Where's the admission stats for Sidwell? How can we compare? Goodness
2. Going by percentage is irrelevant and pointless because schools are Limited by the number of admittance.
Once again, you showed that you are not very bright.

Good Morning W(oeful) grad/parent!

1. Instagram (Sidwell c/o 2023). Look it up. 83% of the graduating seniors posted, and based on Instagram posts alone 17/125 (13.6%) are Ivies. I personally know 4 students from that class who didn’t post. They are currently freshman at Ivies this year (21/125=16.8%). Btw, there were several 2023 Sidwell grads who were admitted to more than one Ivy that year, so the overall Ivy admissions rate is much higher than 16.8% (and MUCH higher than 3.5%).

2. You don’t understand percentages or college admissions policies. Private colleges can select as many students from a particular high school as they want. There are a couple of NYC privates that consistently send 20-35% of their graduates to Ivies (and they’re the same size as Sidwell). Unlike you, I’m not going to try to make excuses. Those colleges clearly prefer those NYC privates for whatever reason.

My goodness, you're are truly dumb.
1.Instagram posts and anecdotes are NOT facts! Where are the stats for Sidwell?
2. Harvard would not admit no more than 10 students from Whitman, even though way more than 10 would qualify. Hence limited admittance.
Gosh you're slow and clueless.

Your words: “Harvard would not admit no more than 10 students from Whitman…”
Actually, Harvard admitted ZERO students from Whitman, despite receiving 28 applications from Whitman students.

This is the way you speak, yet you refer to me as “dumb, slow, and clueless.” 😂
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.

The facts have been presented, you just don’t like them. I understand—I can’t imagine sending my child to a high school where students submit 40, 50, 60+ applications to certain colleges, and ZERO students are admitted.

You don’t have the range or intellect for this discussion. Try to enjoy the rest of your day.

FYI we know many Harvard admits who turned down Harvard and said exactly why, this year thus far. And they weren’t all Jewish.

Yeah, but in this case Harvard took a hard pass on every Whitman applicant.

Btw, people turn down Harvard every year—it never has a 100% yield. What’s your point?

NP. Harvard aint what it used to be so stop pretending its fantastic to have gone there, be there, or applying there. They fell off the turnip truck the minute leftist Rakesh Khurana showed up.

Endowment grants and donations will continue to go down, from disappointed successful alums and from its fleet of ongoing incompetent current grads. They won't make any money to donate as career activists. Only Obama pulled that off.

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And from the people who want political grooming out of every department, major, and discipline.

Take poly sci or XYZ Studies if that's your thing.

[Anonymous]

They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

Out of a class of about 130, there are 14 or so lifers left, so not sure that the whole grade is exactly flooded with those.

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Anonymous wrote:Affluent household with 3 kids in private here. At under $120K for 3 kids, we were buyers. Now looking at $165-$180K in the near future, we’re strategizing an exit.

Forget affordability. It’s the whole premise of shelling all this for kids to be stressed. Then there’s the nitpicking over stats that no one who’s actually living life to the fullest cares about.

Add tutoring, sports, music, summer camp, and now therapy, the cost of “rigor,” “health,” and “exposure” is reaching $200K and will only grow. That’s excluding the kids we hire to chauffer our kids around.

$500K pretax, $1m every-other-year into a system that brings out insecurity, competitiveness, instability

Half the parents at Sidwell and other privates left college wanting to make the world a better place. We’ve completely lost the plot.

This was the situation before the recent price increases, and will continue to be. I don’t know about losing the plot, but part of the equation is how you communicate about the pressures and stresses of the current system to your kids. For us, I figure the camps, school tuition, etc., are worth it if our kids enjoy the activities/camps/schools, and are receiving benefits from participating. The rest is just noise.

I went from public schools to Ivy but the reality is that admissions are so insane these days that you can’t expect it for your kids. People can spend all you want on top privates but the kids are not getting into an Ivy or similar unless they’re truly excellent and put in the effort themselves. In any event, Ivy admission is not the be all and end all and we do our best to avoid putting that pressure on our kids

If our kids enjoyed it, it’d all be worthwhile. Mine increasingly aren’t. It sounds like yours are.

There’s always been a lot of noise out there. Somehow, years back, private sounded substantive. Now, to our ears, it’s pretty noisy

Good luck with all of it. One of mine is at a K-8 so we’re at a crossroads and the question of whether private school tuition for high school is “worth it” (or affordable for another 4 years) is definitely top of mind. I think it really depends on the school and the kid, so we’re actually looking at both privates and public. But definitely, the most important thing is our kid’s well-being and happiness, and we won’t be applying to Sidwell because I know it wouldn’t be a good fit for mine.

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Anonymous wrote:Affluent household with 3 kids in private here. At under $120K for 3 kids, we were buyers. Now looking at $165-$180K in the near future, we’re strategizing an exit.

Forget affordability. It’s the whole premise of shelling all this for kids to be stressed. Then there’s the nitpicking over stats that no one who’s actually living life to the fullest cares about.

Add tutoring, sports, music, summer camp, and now therapy, the cost of “rigor,” “health,” and “exposure” is reaching $200K and will only grow. That’s excluding the kids we hire to chauffer our kids around.

$500K pretax, $1m every-other-year into a system that brings out insecurity, competitiveness, instability

Half the parents at Sidwell and other privates left college wanting to make the world a better place. We’ve completely lost the plot.

This was the situation before the recent price increases, and will continue to be. I don’t know about losing the plot, but part of the equation is how you communicate about the pressures and stresses of the current system to your kids. For us, I figure the camps, school tuition, etc., are worth it if our kids enjoy the activities/camps/schools, and are receiving benefits from participating. The rest is just noise.

I went from public schools to Ivy but the reality is that admissions are so insane these days that you can’t expect it for your kids. People can spend all you want on top privates but the kids are not getting into an Ivy or similar unless they’re truly excellent and put in the effort themselves. In any event, Ivy admission is not the be all and end all and we do our best to avoid putting that pressure on our kids

If our kids enjoyed it, it’d all be worthwhile. Mine increasingly aren’t. It sounds like yours are.

There’s always been a lot of noise out there. Somehow, years back, private sounded substantive. Now, to our ears, it’s pretty noisy

Good luck with all of it. One of mine is at a K-8 so we’re at a crossroads and the question of whether private school tuition for high school is “worth it” (or affordable for another 4 years) is definitely top of mind. I think it really depends on the school and the kid, so we’re actually looking at both privates and public. But definitely, the most important thing is our kid’s well-being and happiness, and we won’t be applying to Sidwell because I know it wouldn’t be a good fit for mine.

Good luck to you and your kids too.

[Anonymous]

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They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

Out of a class of about 130, there are 14 or so lifers left, so not sure that the whole grade is exactly flooded with those.

Wow, that’s a lot of attrition. What does the school say about its retention rate?

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They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

Out of a class of about 130, there are 14 or so lifers left, so not sure that the whole grade is exactly flooded with those.

Wow, that’s a lot of attrition. What does the school say about its retention rate?

That doesn’t seem unreasonable. My Big 3 had lifers for about 10% of the graduating class. I’d estimate my kid’s class is likely to be about the same. A lot of people don’t stay in the same school from k or 1st through 12th. Plus there are several expansion points that “dilute” the pool of lifers (add chlorine, some might argue). A school that starts with what, 20-30 5-year-olds and ends with 60-130 seniors? Keeping 14 of them all the way through isn’t bad.

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They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

Out of a class of about 130, there are 14 or so lifers left, so not sure that the whole grade is exactly flooded with those.

Wow, that’s a lot of attrition. What does the school say about its retention rate?

14 seems pretty reasonable to me. How many PK/K kids are there at Sidwell? The school expands a lot over time and of the original kids in K it doesn't seem unreasonable that families in the DC area might move elsewhere.

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There are 22 PKers.

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Anonymous wrote:There are 22 PKers.

So totally reasonable that 8 might move from DC or to other schools by 12th grade.

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They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

Out of a class of about 130, there are 14 or so lifers left, so not sure that the whole grade is exactly flooded with those.

What if the definition of "lifer" also included the 28 students who joined in kindergarten?

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They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

Out of a class of about 130, there are 14 or so lifers left, so not sure that the whole grade is exactly flooded with those.

What if the definition of "lifer" also included the 28 students who joined in kindergarten?

I believe that “lifer” means 14 years, including pre-K, but I may be wrong.

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I know that, but as a practical matter, is there any material difference between a student starting in PK vs. K in the context of what's being discussed?

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They may have a head start, but there are still plenty of lifers who most likely wouldn't be admitted if applying on their own track record for middle or high school. So no, the private schools aren't so much more curated than a Whitman or Churchill where you usually need to have enough money from "educational and professional attainments" to be able to afford living in the district. And I bet there are more Ivy legacies attending Whitman/Churchill than at any individual private school.

Out of a class of about 130, there are 14 or so lifers left, so not sure that the whole grade is exactly flooded with those.

What if the definition of "lifer" also included the 28 students who joined in kindergarten?

It still doesn't seem unreasonable that over 13-14 years that there would be 14 lifers due to attrition in moves and changes in schools. Plus - 14 also aligns with the "lifer photo" of our DCs graduating SFS class recently (which might have even been a tad lower...).