Sidwell tuition 2024-25

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Anonymous wrote:Not pretending. It was important to me the school body was diverse enough, and it’s much more than that. I love it and feel lucky to be cutting them checks for Sidwell and not some other lesser school.

Visible diversity was important to you.

All pretentious and hypocritical, Bunch of idiots who won't impact society in any meaningful way. This is why America is so stuck.

wow, blaming a private school for the ills of the country is rich.

it is not the private school. It is the crowds it attracts and the values they represent. It is the sad fact we have to buy high quality education. It is the sad fact that GDS entry faculty for high school makes $60K while the tuition is $55K for each student. The sad thing is even rich people can't really improve the teacher's salary to teach their rich kids. How can this country move forward?

The really sad fact is that the GDS HOS makes over a million dollars a year.

And people wait inline to let GDS judge their toddlers, their 8 year olds, and make them pay $50K a year to play some music instruments and jump on a bottle in a science lab.

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Anonymous wrote:Why don’t they announce the tuition increases before the application deadline?

It goes up every year at every school. I am paying $7k more per year for the same HS then when my first kid started back in 2020.

There were a few bigger jumps —bigger than the usual 2-3%, like 6-7%.

You need to realize this going in

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Anonymous wrote:Two kids at Sidwell. It is not "worth it" or good value. Likely only incrementally better overall, and worse in some aspects, than public W options. Very hard to make economic argument though - like healthcare - you want the best for your loved ones and price is secondary consideration until not affordable. Sidwell is a business - while 20x more applicants than places they will continue to increase the price until demand drops. We will likely leave in next few years unless school undergoes major turnaround in accountability to students and parents - but not because they keep ratcheting up the tuition above inflation.

Funny thing is, these schools are not businesses. They are non-profit organizations.

They are supposed to be mission-driven, not profit-driven. In fact, maximizing income conflicts with the mission.

But mission gets set aside because maximizing profit conveniently maximizes the heads salary, raises the prestige (to some eyes), and serves the elitist preferences of the board members.

They are mission driven, and that mission includes trying to provide everything as fully resourced as possible to their students. Also, there is fierce competition for good teachers, so of the salaries and benefits are not top tier, your talent will be poached.

Really? Why GDS only pays 60K for High school teachers? Sidwell is about 66K for entry level. You consultants/attorney/other mind-numbing capitalists making 500K a year and pay 60K for a teacher to teach your kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

Really? I teach in a non-Ivy college and every year we have students enroll in Ivy graduate programs including law and medicine. I graduated myself from an Ivy Grad program in science and most of my classmates graduated from public colleges and most do not grow up in very expensive high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

If a good education can be only bought by money (e.g. Sidewell's value as the poster says above), it says something terrible about a society.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

Really? I teach in a non-Ivy college and every year we have students enroll in Ivy graduate programs including law and medicine. I graduated myself from an Ivy Grad program in science and most of my classmates graduated from public colleges and most do not grow up in very expensive high schools.

Same. I went to an SEC school and then went Ivy for grad school.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

Really? I teach in a non-Ivy college and every year we have students enroll in Ivy graduate programs including law and medicine. I graduated myself from an Ivy Grad program in science and most of my classmates graduated from public colleges and most do not grow up in very expensive high schools.

Same. I went to an SEC school and then went Ivy for grad school.

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It’s unfortunate that I have to explain the obvious (to public school graduates), but here goes. Approximately 10% of high school students attend/graduate from private high schools. That means that about NINETY PERCENT (90%) of high school graduates graduated from public schools. Based on sheer numbers, there are more public school graduates.

That said, private school graduates (especially those from elite private high schools) are over represented at highly selective universities (both undergraduate and graduate). That means that Big 3 graduates and the like at T5/10/15/20 universities and Ivy+ graduate schools are over represented (based on PERCENTAGES).

Do not argue this point with me. Argue with the social scientists/researchers who have established this as fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the education that much better than Whitman?

Yes, the overall educational experience is superior. Plus, Sidwell consistently sends a higher percentage of graduates to Ivy+ colleges than the W schools.

https://moco360.media/2023/09/13/where-montgomery-county-high-school-graduates-are-going-to-college/

Because it’s a completely different pool of kids (public schools educate everyone whereas Sidwell is selecting the advantaged few). Selection bias at its finest. Doesn’t make it a better school.

Yes, it does. Selection bias, well-prepared, wealthier and better resourced students (among many other reasons) are why Sidwell is a better school. Selection bias eliminates a lot of problem students, and it elevates the experience for the privileged few who remain. I know it’s not pc to say these things, but you know it’s true.

Yes, these are the Quaker values.

lol

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

Really? I teach in a non-Ivy college and every year we have students enroll in Ivy graduate programs including law and medicine. I graduated myself from an Ivy Grad program in science and most of my classmates graduated from public colleges and most do not grow up in very expensive high schools.

Same. I went to an SEC school and then went Ivy for grad school.

**Sigh**
It’s unfortunate that I have to explain the obvious (to public school graduates), but here goes. Approximately 10% of high school students attend/graduate from private high schools. That means that about NINETY PERCENT (90%) of high school graduates graduated from public schools. Based on sheer numbers, there are more public school graduates.

That said, private school graduates (especially those from elite private high schools) are over represented at highly selective universities (both undergraduate and graduate). That means that Big 3 graduates and the like at T5/10/15/20 universities and Ivy+ graduate schools are over represented (based on PERCENTAGES).

Do not argue this point with me. Argue with the social scientists/researchers who have established this as fact.

Sidwell’s value never becomes apparent if you don’t have the funds for it or for Ivy tuition. The over representation of private school kids in larger more expensive private schools is self fulfilling ideal. It has very little to do with student intelligence or capability.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

Really? I teach in a non-Ivy college and every year we have students enroll in Ivy graduate programs including law and medicine. I graduated myself from an Ivy Grad program in science and most of my classmates graduated from public colleges and most do not grow up in very expensive high schools.

Same. I went to an SEC school and then went Ivy for grad school.

**Sigh**
It’s unfortunate that I have to explain the obvious (to public school graduates), but here goes. Approximately 10% of high school students attend/graduate from private high schools. That means that about NINETY PERCENT (90%) of high school graduates graduated from public schools. Based on sheer numbers, there are more public school graduates.

That said, private school graduates (especially those from elite private high schools) are over represented at highly selective universities (both undergraduate and graduate). That means that Big 3 graduates and the like at T5/10/15/20 universities and Ivy+ graduate schools are over represented (based on PERCENTAGES).

Do not argue this point with me. Argue with the social scientists/researchers who have established this as fact.

Not arguing with you. But there are plenty of opportunities to succeed in life and be happy than going to the smoothed path of Big3+ T10. On the other hand, aiming for Ivy college by sending the kids form K-12 in Big 3 might not be always worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

+1.


The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

It may “seem” achievable by those public school students, but they often do not make it to Ivy+ graduate programs. That’s often due to a lack of money for graduate school and/or poorer academic performance at schools like Emory/NYU/BC because they’re not as academically prepared as the Sidwell students. That’s when Sidwell’s value becomes readily apparent.

Really? I teach in a non-Ivy college and every year we have students enroll in Ivy graduate programs including law and medicine. I graduated myself from an Ivy Grad program in science and most of my classmates graduated from public colleges and most do not grow up in very expensive high schools.

Same. I went to an SEC school and then went Ivy for grad school.

**Sigh**
It’s unfortunate that I have to explain the obvious (to public school graduates), but here goes. Approximately 10% of high school students attend/graduate from private high schools. That means that about NINETY PERCENT (90%) of high school graduates graduated from public schools. Based on sheer numbers, there are more public school graduates.

That said, private school graduates (especially those from elite private high schools) are over represented at highly selective universities (both undergraduate and graduate). That means that Big 3 graduates and the like at T5/10/15/20 universities and Ivy+ graduate schools are over represented (based on PERCENTAGES).

Do not argue this point with me. Argue with the social scientists/researchers who have established this as fact.

Sidwell’s value never becomes apparent if you don’t have the funds for it or for Ivy tuition. The over representation of private school kids in larger more expensive private schools is self fulfilling ideal. It has very little to do with student intelligence or capability.

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Many successful innovators and scientists do not fall into these categories of Big3+Top5. Some politicians do. To fall into this rat race set up by the elite and ultra rich is not worth it for everyone, especially the truly passionate, compassionate, and curious kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

But they are less likely to marry someone really rich.

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Anonymous wrote:Being surrounded by the correct peer group so one can marry well is one of the desired outcomes. The number of inter-SFS marriages is substantial

How boring? Almost as boring as those who are homeless, in jail, or Trump.

It may be boring for you, but many people aren’t interested in exploring the adventures of struggle and poverty.

They are missing out in life. They are missing out figuring out what matters to them. Or they will become Luigi who murdered the CEO.

Lol—using an exception to try to prove a rule. The number of people born into poverty who turn to a life of violent crime dwarfs the Luigi’s of the world many times over.

Good. Go to sidwell and pay $55K then. Good luck and hope your kids go to Harvard. So what? Still have a possibility to live a boring life.

The irony is that even at $55K/year only a handful of SFS kids in any given class will end up at an Ivy+ and vast majority of them are legacies.

It's a great education with an excellent peer group. But vast majority of SFS kids have no shot at an Ivy+. If that's really important to a family/kid, there are other ways to get in that will yield higher odds.

I know tons of Sidwell alums who didn’t attend Ivy+ universities. Instead, they graduated from T15 to T50 universities (true for the majority of Sidwell alums). Their Sidwell education helped them to excel academically at these institutions, so they ended up attending and graduating from law/med/business school Ivies. Then onto highly successful careers in their chosen fields.

I’d say an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/etc is the objective success most Sidwell parents and students are seeking.

This "an undergraduate degree from Emory/NYU/BC, then a JD, MBA, or MD from Harvard/Yale/Stanford/et" seems achievable by a school without walls students or a Winston Churchill students. Typical american upper middle class life. Most Chevy Chase/NW DC children have a good chance for this. No need for Sidwell.

But they are less likely to marry someone really rich.

Baby boomers are dying. Nothing beats meeting someone rich for a huge inheritance.