Understanding Juvenile Carjacking: A Panel Discussion Moderated by Ward 6 Councilmember Charles Allen

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes please. Please send the police to patrol our neighborhoods. Also very happy to be stopped and searched.

Just one small ask — please also set up roadblocks to the other Wards.

+1. More police in Ward 3 please. Also happy to be stopped.

[Anonymous]

Thank you. Agree.

See how that works when you’re not a criminal?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

You’re delusional. Truly delusional.

I guess Im just trying to understand how DC got here from a policy perspective. Didn't voters support these leaders and their respective ideas that are currently in place? Are people saying that these policies don't work? Or just that the current trend in criminal conduct is unrelated to the policies driven by our elected officials? As I understand it, many of those elected have a good bit of support from the local constituency. Is this not true?

So in my estimation, the elected leaders and their progressive policies on crime were and still are supported by DC residents, mostly. Or DC residents don't think crime and their elected leaders and subsequent progressive policies are related? I don't like to throw out the "this is what people voted for," but I have a hard time believing everyone in these crime threads are MAGA. It is interesting that I also never see thoughtful and reasoned support for what's happening either, so maybe the voters just turning a blind eye as long as any democrat is elected? Or they aren't affected by these occurrences? Or maybe it really isn't an issue.

Only a tiny percentage of DC voters engage in the primaries (bad) and DC is 95% D. Current DC council-members were not voted by a significant portion of the population. How many votes did Frumin receive to win the Ward 3 primaries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about calling the national guard up and just have tanks rolling up and down the streets everyday?

If I could not have a gone put in my face by a teenager and my phone and wallet stolen in the middle of the afternoon as happened to me, or not have my neighbor carjacked at gunpoint, I'd take that trade a million times.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

You’re delusional. Truly delusional.

I guess Im just trying to understand how DC got here from a policy perspective. Didn't voters support these leaders and their respective ideas that are currently in place? Are people saying that these policies don't work? Or just that the current trend in criminal conduct is unrelated to the policies driven by our elected officials? As I understand it, many of those elected have a good bit of support from the local constituency. Is this not true?

So in my estimation, the elected leaders and their progressive policies on crime were and still are supported by DC residents, mostly. Or DC residents don't think crime and their elected leaders and subsequent progressive policies are related? I don't like to throw out the "this is what people voted for," but I have a hard time believing everyone in these crime threads are MAGA. It is interesting that I also never see thoughtful and reasoned support for what's happening either, so maybe the voters just turning a blind eye as long as any democrat is elected? Or they aren't affected by these occurrences? Or maybe it really isn't an issue.

Only a tiny percentage of DC voters engage in the primaries (bad) and DC is 95% D. Current DC council-members were not voted by a significant portion of the population. How many votes did Frumin receive to win the Ward 3 primaries?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

You’re delusional. Truly delusional.

I guess Im just trying to understand how DC got here from a policy perspective. Didn't voters support these leaders and their respective ideas that are currently in place? Are people saying that these policies don't work? Or just that the current trend in criminal conduct is unrelated to the policies driven by our elected officials? As I understand it, many of those elected have a good bit of support from the local constituency. Is this not true?

So in my estimation, the elected leaders and their progressive policies on crime were and still are supported by DC residents, mostly. Or DC residents don't think crime and their elected leaders and subsequent progressive policies are related? I don't like to throw out the "this is what people voted for," but I have a hard time believing everyone in these crime threads are MAGA. It is interesting that I also never see thoughtful and reasoned support for what's happening either, so maybe the voters just turning a blind eye as long as any democrat is elected? Or they aren't affected by these occurrences? Or maybe it really isn't an issue.

Only a tiny percentage of DC voters engage in the primaries (bad) and DC is 95% D. Current DC council-members were not voted by a significant portion of the population. How many votes did Frumin receive to win the Ward 3 primaries?

Agreed, there is a shocking amount of inertia when it comes to DC voters, who one would think would be very politically inclined. Instead, every election is low-turnout, which makes it nearly impossible to oust incumbents, no matter how inept they are. You either have to be ethically challenged (Evans, Graham, Orange) or make a comically inept power play (Silverman) to lose as an incumbent. I would argue Todd losing to JLG was an outlier because it was a low-energy election during the height of the pandemic. As we're seeing now, JLG is now seen as increasingly vulnerable herself.

Maybe this recall -- which, if I were Allen, I would be taking *extremely* serious (he seems to think it's a joke) -- combined with the possibility of open primaries/RCV will change things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

You’re delusional. Truly delusional.

I guess Im just trying to understand how DC got here from a policy perspective. Didn't voters support these leaders and their respective ideas that are currently in place? Are people saying that these policies don't work? Or just that the current trend in criminal conduct is unrelated to the policies driven by our elected officials? As I understand it, many of those elected have a good bit of support from the local constituency. Is this not true?

So in my estimation, the elected leaders and their progressive policies on crime were and still are supported by DC residents, mostly. Or DC residents don't think crime and their elected leaders and subsequent progressive policies are related? I don't like to throw out the "this is what people voted for," but I have a hard time believing everyone in these crime threads are MAGA. It is interesting that I also never see thoughtful and reasoned support for what's happening either, so maybe the voters just turning a blind eye as long as any democrat is elected? Or they aren't affected by these occurrences? Or maybe it really isn't an issue.

The voting base for the primaries are extremists who rule the Democrat machine in DC and make sure moderates get no funding or support. Their extreme policies are easy to talk about without actually doing anything substantive because they sound nice. They hand wave any solution that either doesn't work 100% of the time or can somewhat credibly be said to impact a hypothetical minority in some bad way. That's why you see them say you "can't prosecute out of this" then talk about root causes which are impossible to address with rampant crime.

In sum, DC residents have a hard time speaking out against their politicians because they get called racist if they are white and condescended to or ignored if they are a POC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about calling the national guard up and just have tanks rolling up and down the streets everyday?

Yes, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

You’re delusional. Truly delusional.

I guess Im just trying to understand how DC got here from a policy perspective. Didn't voters support these leaders and their respective ideas that are currently in place? Are people saying that these policies don't work? Or just that the current trend in criminal conduct is unrelated to the policies driven by our elected officials? As I understand it, many of those elected have a good bit of support from the local constituency. Is this not true?

So in my estimation, the elected leaders and their progressive policies on crime were and still are supported by DC residents, mostly. Or DC residents don't think crime and their elected leaders and subsequent progressive policies are related? I don't like to throw out the "this is what people voted for," but I have a hard time believing everyone in these crime threads are MAGA. It is interesting that I also never see thoughtful and reasoned support for what's happening either, so maybe the voters just turning a blind eye as long as any democrat is elected? Or they aren't affected by these occurrences? Or maybe it really isn't an issue.

The voting base for the primaries are extremists who rule the Democrat machine in DC and make sure moderates get no funding or support. Their extreme policies are easy to talk about without actually doing anything substantive because they sound nice. They hand wave any solution that either doesn't work 100% of the time or can somewhat credibly be said to impact a hypothetical minority in some bad way. That's why you see them say you "can't prosecute out of this" then talk about root causes which are impossible to address with rampant crime.

In sum, DC residents have a hard time speaking out against their politicians because they get called racist if they are white and condescended to or ignored if they are a POC.

But if extremists do actually have that much political power, they can change / propose any of these laws with little pushback or opposition. Why would they continue to choose seemingly failing policies in regards to crime?

It's not like there is a risk of losing re-election, so why continue with bad policies when they can change them and still stay in power? It all just seems strange.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

You’re delusional. Truly delusional.

I guess Im just trying to understand how DC got here from a policy perspective. Didn't voters support these leaders and their respective ideas that are currently in place? Are people saying that these policies don't work? Or just that the current trend in criminal conduct is unrelated to the policies driven by our elected officials? As I understand it, many of those elected have a good bit of support from the local constituency. Is this not true?

So in my estimation, the elected leaders and their progressive policies on crime were and still are supported by DC residents, mostly. Or DC residents don't think crime and their elected leaders and subsequent progressive policies are related? I don't like to throw out the "this is what people voted for," but I have a hard time believing everyone in these crime threads are MAGA. It is interesting that I also never see thoughtful and reasoned support for what's happening either, so maybe the voters just turning a blind eye as long as any democrat is elected? Or they aren't affected by these occurrences? Or maybe it really isn't an issue.

The voting base for the primaries are extremists who rule the Democrat machine in DC and make sure moderates get no funding or support. Their extreme policies are easy to talk about without actually doing anything substantive because they sound nice. They hand wave any solution that either doesn't work 100% of the time or can somewhat credibly be said to impact a hypothetical minority in some bad way. That's why you see them say you "can't prosecute out of this" then talk about root causes which are impossible to address with rampant crime.

In sum, DC residents have a hard time speaking out against their politicians because they get called racist if they are white and condescended to or ignored if they are a POC.

Some of the candidates also lie.. eg Frumin and Brian Schwalb. They sound moderate but once elected they are exactly like the rest..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:With violent crime soaring back to 90s levels, it's time to bring back broken windows policing. Discuss.

I think you may be rushing this. You just need to give the current policies and services more time to work. A few more years and the results will start to show positive change. You can’t just arrest and prosecute everyone and expect things to change. Have faith in the elected leaders.

You’re delusional. Truly delusional.

I guess Im just trying to understand how DC got here from a policy perspective. Didn't voters support these leaders and their respective ideas that are currently in place? Are people saying that these policies don't work? Or just that the current trend in criminal conduct is unrelated to the policies driven by our elected officials? As I understand it, many of those elected have a good bit of support from the local constituency. Is this not true?

So in my estimation, the elected leaders and their progressive policies on crime were and still are supported by DC residents, mostly. Or DC residents don't think crime and their elected leaders and subsequent progressive policies are related? I don't like to throw out the "this is what people voted for," but I have a hard time believing everyone in these crime threads are MAGA. It is interesting that I also never see thoughtful and reasoned support for what's happening either, so maybe the voters just turning a blind eye as long as any democrat is elected? Or they aren't affected by these occurrences? Or maybe it really isn't an issue.

The voting base for the primaries are extremists who rule the Democrat machine in DC and make sure moderates get no funding or support. Their extreme policies are easy to talk about without actually doing anything substantive because they sound nice. They hand wave any solution that either doesn't work 100% of the time or can somewhat credibly be said to impact a hypothetical minority in some bad way. That's why you see them say you "can't prosecute out of this" then talk about root causes which are impossible to address with rampant crime.

In sum, DC residents have a hard time speaking out against their politicians because they get called racist if they are white and condescended to or ignored if they are a POC.

But if extremists do actually have that much political power, they can change / propose any of these laws with little pushback or opposition. Why would they continue to choose seemingly failing policies in regards to crime?

It's not like there is a risk of losing re-election, so why continue with bad policies when they can change them and still stay in power? It all just seems strange.

Because they are extremists who believe in these policies or pragmatists who understand they can't politically change anything. If they ask for more police or arrests then numerous activist orgs will call them racist/fascist and get them primaried out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A "wrap around service" is supposed to include a case manager that approaches the youth which just allegedly committed the crime and sitting down with them and their guardian and communicating with them. Looking at their school attendance report. Offering alternative counseling, training, experiential programs, mentorship, anger management, problem solving.

These are ALL programs that DC pays for, however, there is NO mechanism to input a potential young offender into the wrap around services and then track them and ensure that they are being given the motivation and skill to avoid repeat offending.

Wrap around services basically means that DC government is now your mom or dad since its clear the juvenile does not have any parents or gaurdians that care

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes please. Please send the police to patrol our neighborhoods. Also very happy to be stopped and searched.

Just one small ask — please also set up roadblocks to the other Wards.

We could support more pop up roadblocks on cross park routes like Military, Calvert, Porter, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about calling the national guard up and just have tanks rolling up and down the streets everyday?

Yes, please.

Considering the condition of some of Bowser’s DC streets, tanks can’t do much more damage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:More economic opportunity for these poor black youths who commit all these crimes would help.

Also, bring back midnight basketball.

Councilman Frumin has a solution: DC legislation for midnight pickleball.