Pritzker urges Texas Gov. Greg Abbott to stop migrant dropoffs amid winter storm: ‘I plead with you for mercy’

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Sent intentionally to get your attention and understand that there IS a problem and what you consider unannounced chaos is what TX has been dealing with for years, only on a much bigger scale.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.


PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:

"Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"

It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.


OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.

First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.

Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.

"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581


DP. JFC, you continue to repeat and rehash your ridiculous take on this situation. The POINT was to cause discomfort and outrage, so that leadership in these cities (Pritzker, Adams, etc.) would finally SPEAK UP and insist that Biden secure the border. Had Abbott not done this, or politely coordinated with the receiving cities, we would simply have business as usual, with the Biden admin saying, "See? It CAN work! This is great, everyone is cooperating and welcoming millions and millions of illegal immigrants! Keep up the good work!"

No. The point is to make this as uncomfortable for other states as it has been for Texas et al - but for decades now. Perhaps having some blue state mayors/governors speak out about this crisis will actually get results. Good for Abbott.


Thank you for being honest.

So you are saying that this IS a political stunt. It is not an attempt to actually ease the burden in TX or to “share the burden” across the country. It is being done for the sole and explicit purpose of attempting to influence policy in DC.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.


PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:

"Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"

It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.


OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.

First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.

Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.

"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581


DP. JFC, you continue to repeat and rehash your ridiculous take on this situation. The POINT was to cause discomfort and outrage, so that leadership in these cities (Pritzker, Adams, etc.) would finally SPEAK UP and insist that Biden secure the border. Had Abbott not done this, or politely coordinated with the receiving cities, we would simply have business as usual, with the Biden admin saying, "See? It CAN work! This is great, everyone is cooperating and welcoming millions and millions of illegal immigrants! Keep up the good work!"

No. The point is to make this as uncomfortable for other states as it has been for Texas et al - but for decades now. Perhaps having some blue state mayors/governors speak out about this crisis will actually get results. Good for Abbott.


Thank you for being honest.

So you are saying that this IS a political stunt. It is not an attempt to actually ease the burden in TX or to “share the burden” across the country. It is being done for the sole and explicit purpose of attempting to influence policy in DC.


Guess you would prefer the status quo from the comfort of your area with no immigration issues?
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Anonymous wrote:Do you, or do you not, mean it when you claim "Sanctuary City", or the many related bumper stickers and lawn signs? If you don't stand behind what you say, just top talking and finally stop screaming and shaming everyone else.


If I have a bumper sticker that says "save the orcas", would it be OK for you to dump an orca on my lawn?
If I have a lawn sign that says "make abortions illegal" would it be OK for you to dump five newborns on my lawn?
If I have a lawn sign that says "prison reform now!" would it be OK for you to force to to house incarcerated people?

One can think there is a problem that needs solving or a policy that needs changing without being personally responsible for all of the symptoms of that problem.


Declaring yourself a "Sanctuary" inherently identifies you as welcoming to migrants and opposite other "heartless" cities. It's a pointless declaration if you don't stand behind it. What makes it worse is the rhetoric assuming Texas and other border states should be fine with Orcas dumped on their lawns.

"Let's Find A Solution" might be a reasonable slogan, as some are now realizing. But no - you wanted the validation and shaming opportunities without the responsibility.


That's not what it means. It just means they don't enforce federal immigration laws or do CBP's job for them.


DP. And for the zillionth time, we know what "sanctuary city" means. But the fact that any city would announce that illegal immigrants are safe from law enforcement is a signal that they sympathize with and will help illegal immigrants. Get it?


+1 exactly
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.


PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:

"Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"

It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.


OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.

First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.

Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.

"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581


DP. JFC, you continue to repeat and rehash your ridiculous take on this situation. The POINT was to cause discomfort and outrage, so that leadership in these cities (Pritzker, Adams, etc.) would finally SPEAK UP and insist that Biden secure the border. Had Abbott not done this, or politely coordinated with the receiving cities, we would simply have business as usual, with the Biden admin saying, "See? It CAN work! This is great, everyone is cooperating and welcoming millions and millions of illegal immigrants! Keep up the good work!"

No. The point is to make this as uncomfortable for other states as it has been for Texas et al - but for decades now. Perhaps having some blue state mayors/governors speak out about this crisis will actually get results. Good for Abbott.


Thank you for being honest.

So you are saying that this IS a political stunt. It is not an attempt to actually ease the burden in TX or to “share the burden” across the country. It is being done for the sole and explicit purpose of attempting to influence policy in DC.


Guess you would prefer the status quo from the comfort of your area with no immigration issues?


PP here. Nope not in favor of the status quo.

But I am glad we are beyond pretending this is something that it is not.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.


PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:

"Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"

It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.


OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.

First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.

Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.

"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581


DP. JFC, you continue to repeat and rehash your ridiculous take on this situation. The POINT was to cause discomfort and outrage, so that leadership in these cities (Pritzker, Adams, etc.) would finally SPEAK UP and insist that Biden secure the border. Had Abbott not done this, or politely coordinated with the receiving cities, we would simply have business as usual, with the Biden admin saying, "See? It CAN work! This is great, everyone is cooperating and welcoming millions and millions of illegal immigrants! Keep up the good work!"

No. The point is to make this as uncomfortable for other states as it has been for Texas et al - but for decades now. Perhaps having some blue state mayors/governors speak out about this crisis will actually get results. Good for Abbott.


Thank you for being honest.

So you are saying that this IS a political stunt. It is not an attempt to actually ease the burden in TX or to “share the burden” across the country. It is being done for the sole and explicit purpose of attempting to influence policy in DC.


Guess you would prefer the status quo from the comfort of your area with no immigration issues?


How does California manage it without these stunts?
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


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By declaring themselves "sanctuary cities" these cities have already agreed to take in these people. There's no "wrong" about it.


For the 6,473rd time, that is not what "sanctuary city" means in Chicago or most other cities. All it means is that they will not enforce federal immigration laws or help CBP do their jobs for them. It DOES NOT mean "we will house and feed everyone" or any of the other such nonsense claims being made.


In other words, we Chicagoans don't think we should have to enforce immigration laws because large groups of immigrants don't affect us. We like to sound kind and welcoming to immigrants. Just don't let too many of them come here. It might overburden our schools and services, but it's fine for Texas and other states to be overburdened.


It is NOT fine for Texas to be overburdened. It is also NOT fine for Chicago to be overburdened, particularly intentionally and at great cost by another state.


Then time to enforce the immigration laws.


PP here and I absolutely agree we need to enforce immigration laws. Texas also needs to stop the dumping.


Nothing gets done while those border states patiently wait for unaffected states to care about the immigration crisis and quit minimzing the impact.


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This is the crux of the matter. The Biden administration (and Democrats in general) have turned a blind eye to the border crisis, gaslighting all the way and claiming there "is no crisis!" Abbott is clearly at the end of his rope and has no other options. What he is doing is frankly, exactly what should be done to get Democrats to wake the hell up to what is happening. Enough is enough.


Do you really honestly think that he has no other options?
Do you really honestly think that these flights are even making any appreciable difference to alleviate the strain put on Texas?

You don't.


Do YOU honestly think Abbott should just stay quiet and put up with the status quo at the border while continuing to house and care for millions of illegal immigrants because Biden is too much of an idiot to sign border reform legislation?

You do.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you, or do you not, mean it when you claim "Sanctuary City", or the many related bumper stickers and lawn signs? If you don't stand behind what you say, just top talking and finally stop screaming and shaming everyone else.


If I have a bumper sticker that says "save the orcas", would it be OK for you to dump an orca on my lawn?
If I have a lawn sign that says "make abortions illegal" would it be OK for you to dump five newborns on my lawn?
If I have a lawn sign that says "prison reform now!" would it be OK for you to force to to house incarcerated people?

One can think there is a problem that needs solving or a policy that needs changing without being personally responsible for all of the symptoms of that problem.


Declaring yourself a "Sanctuary" inherently identifies you as welcoming to migrants and opposite other "heartless" cities. It's a pointless declaration if you don't stand behind it. What makes it worse is the rhetoric assuming Texas and other border states should be fine with Orcas dumped on their lawns.

"Let's Find A Solution" might be a reasonable slogan, as some are now realizing. But no - you wanted the validation and shaming opportunities without the responsibility.


That's not what it means. It just means they don't enforce federal immigration laws or do CBP's job for them.


DP. And for the zillionth time, we know what "sanctuary city" means. But the fact that any city would announce that illegal immigrants are safe from law enforcement is a signal that they sympathize with and will help illegal immigrants. Get it?


They do sympathize and are helping the illegal immigrants (note that all of the people TX is sending are asylum-seekers NOT violating law.)
They are not prepared to help mass quantities of them that come at one time without notice, sent intentionally to cause chaos.

Get it?


And yet they expect Gov. Abbott to do exactly that.

Get it?
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Anonymous wrote:Sent intentionally to get your attention and understand that there IS a problem and what you consider unannounced chaos is what TX has been dealing with for years, only on a much bigger scale.


Precisely. Honestly, it's just too bad a busload or two can't be sent directly to the idiot who keeps insisting how "impolite" Abbott is for not coordinating the bus drop offs. It's (almost) amusing how obtuse that person is.
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Republicans have no interest in solving border issues.


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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.


PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:

"Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"

It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.


OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.

First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.

Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.

"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581


DP. JFC, you continue to repeat and rehash your ridiculous take on this situation. The POINT was to cause discomfort and outrage, so that leadership in these cities (Pritzker, Adams, etc.) would finally SPEAK UP and insist that Biden secure the border. Had Abbott not done this, or politely coordinated with the receiving cities, we would simply have business as usual, with the Biden admin saying, "See? It CAN work! This is great, everyone is cooperating and welcoming millions and millions of illegal immigrants! Keep up the good work!"

No. The point is to make this as uncomfortable for other states as it has been for Texas et al - but for decades now. Perhaps having some blue state mayors/governors speak out about this crisis will actually get results. Good for Abbott.


Thank you for being honest.

So you are saying that this IS a political stunt. It is not an attempt to actually ease the burden in TX or to “share the burden” across the country. It is being done for the sole and explicit purpose of attempting to influence policy in DC.


You can call it whatever you want - will it be effective in getting Biden to FINALLY pay attention and secure our border? I certainly hope so. You, on the other hand, would be perfectly content with Texas, NM, and Arizona continuing to shoulder 100% of the illegal immigration crisis. As long as you don't have to see or hear about it, it's all good - amirite?

I'm glad we finally have a leader in this country who is not going to accept that nonsense anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.


PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:

"Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"

It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.


OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.

First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.

Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.

"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581


DP. JFC, you continue to repeat and rehash your ridiculous take on this situation. The POINT was to cause discomfort and outrage, so that leadership in these cities (Pritzker, Adams, etc.) would finally SPEAK UP and insist that Biden secure the border. Had Abbott not done this, or politely coordinated with the receiving cities, we would simply have business as usual, with the Biden admin saying, "See? It CAN work! This is great, everyone is cooperating and welcoming millions and millions of illegal immigrants! Keep up the good work!"

No. The point is to make this as uncomfortable for other states as it has been for Texas et al - but for decades now. Perhaps having some blue state mayors/governors speak out about this crisis will actually get results. Good for Abbott.


Thank you for being honest.

So you are saying that this IS a political stunt. It is not an attempt to actually ease the burden in TX or to “share the burden” across the country. It is being done for the sole and explicit purpose of attempting to influence policy in DC.


Guess you would prefer the status quo from the comfort of your area with no immigration issues?


How does California manage it without these stunts?


DP. Seriously? California has made it clear that illegal immigrants will be welcomed there. It would be more than a little hypocritical for them to suddenly reverse course, don't you think?
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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.


What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?


What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?


That’s what Texas is expected to do.

It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.

No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.

Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.


It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...


DP.

I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!

The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.

I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.

This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'







I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.

Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.

How does your analogy track that?


Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.


PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:

"Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"

It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.

Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.

Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.

If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.

No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.

It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.


OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.

If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.

First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.

Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.

"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581


DP. JFC, you continue to repeat and rehash your ridiculous take on this situation. The POINT was to cause discomfort and outrage, so that leadership in these cities (Pritzker, Adams, etc.) would finally SPEAK UP and insist that Biden secure the border. Had Abbott not done this, or politely coordinated with the receiving cities, we would simply have business as usual, with the Biden admin saying, "See? It CAN work! This is great, everyone is cooperating and welcoming millions and millions of illegal immigrants! Keep up the good work!"

No. The point is to make this as uncomfortable for other states as it has been for Texas et al - but for decades now. Perhaps having some blue state mayors/governors speak out about this crisis will actually get results. Good for Abbott.


Thank you for being honest.

So you are saying that this IS a political stunt. It is not an attempt to actually ease the burden in TX or to “share the burden” across the country. It is being done for the sole and explicit purpose of attempting to influence policy in DC.


Guess you would prefer the status quo from the comfort of your area with no immigration issues?


PP here. Nope not in favor of the status quo.

But I am glad we are beyond pretending this is something that it is not.


I know, right? I'm glad we're beyond pretending the border is secure and "under control" when it's anything but.
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Democrats have no interest in doing what *actually* needs to be done to solve border issues. At least be honest.
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Why isn't Biden solving this with the stroke of a pen? Clearly, he has no interest in securing the border or he would have a long time ago.
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