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Anonymous wrote:Republicans are sociopaths. They don't care. They don't care if people freeze, starve, or whatever. And, the cruelty isn't by accident, it's by design.
What’s stopping the people living in the sanctuary city of Chicago from housing these people? Why don’t the good democrats take them in to stop them from freezing to death?
What is Chicago supposed to do, pick up a stick along a roadside and wave it around Harry Potter style while yelling "Habitatum ex nihilo" expecting housing to magically appear out of nowhere?
That’s what Texas is expected to do.
It’s amazing that you don’t realize that.
No state or city can deal with the numbers of people flooding the border. Texas is showing people what has been happening there for years.
Wait until the hospitals, ERs, and schools of Chicago feel the full impact. It’s devastating. I lived in South Texas for 4 years and relocated for work recently. My family still lives there. It’s becoming worse by the day.
It is amazing that you don't realize that if it is wrong and a hardship to have no control over people "flooding" the state, it is EQUALLY IF NOT MORE wrong to intentionally do that to another state. It is as though people never learned that two wrongs don't make a right...
DP.
I will never vote for a Republican, but on this one issue, I say Bravo to Abbot!
The only way Democrats are going to be serious about illegal immigration is if blue states are burdened with the costs.
I am a bleeding heart liberal, but Democrats are hypocrites on this issue.
This "two wrongs don't make a right" argument is similar to Republicans' argument on abortion: 'the fetus' life is precious and most be saved, but you dare not ask us to help you take care of it.'
I'm the PP you quoted and do not understand the comparison you are making here. What TX is doing with dumping people:
Wrong #1: done to Texas: lax immigration enforcement lets people flood the city
Wrong #2: done to Chicago: Texas intentionally dumps people in their city without notice or time to prepare.
Wrong #2 does not become Right because of Wrong #1.
How does your analogy track that?
Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?
Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.
If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.
It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.
If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.
PP you are quoting, and to take each of your points:
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Biden is the President of the U.S. If law enforcement is dumping people in Texas, like you say it is, Biden's administration is dumping people in Texas. That is Biden's administration's policy. Why is that Wrong #1?"
It absolutely is. We agree. That is what I meant by "lax immigration enforcement. That is primarily the fault of the Biden administration.
Sometimes, life is about making tough decisions, and everything is not always about being wrong or right. Sometimes both choices can be wrong or both choices can be right. However, leaders must weigh the pros and cons and make the best decision decision they can.
Not sure what you are trying to say here. But dumping people with no notice or coordination is not the "best decision" Texas can make.
If the Biden administration has decided " dumping people" in Texas ( your words) is the best decision it could make, then it's fair for Texas to " dump" some of them in other states in order to share the burden.
No, it isn't "fair." This isn't a game of "us" v. "them" or a tit-for-tat. I absolutely agree that the burden should be shared and a federal solution is required. But what TX is doing is intentionally creating chaos and exacerbating a humanitarian crisis. At the bare minimum, Texas could be seeking and notifying other states and spreading it out.
It's fair for Texas to dump them in states that seem more willing to have them. Sanctuary cities could have quietly been sanctuaries, just as Obama quietly deported illegal immigrants. Their announcement of their sanctuary status was a position meant to declare that they are taking a stance to be less hostile to these groups. Okay. Message received by Texas: take, here are some of them.
OK, so this comes really close to saying the quiet part out loud. It isn't about solving a problem. It is about revenge. And misplaced revenge at that, because the US citizens impacted by this issue are NOT he ones implementing policy.
If Chicago likes it can " dump" some of them in another state.
First, Chicago isn't a state, it is a city. And that is part of the problem. These people cross at various places across the huge border and are not concentrated in one urban area. They are then collected and dumped in an urban area, which makes it much more difficult- intentionally.
Second, Chicago is facilitating moves out of state- in a coordinated way, like Texas should be doing.
"The state said last week that since August 2022, some 9,000 migrants have been resettled — either by being placed in permanent housing or with relatives — both inside the state of Illinois and in other states."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-scrambles-house-migrants-winter-approaches-rcna125581