Biden wants RTO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is Biden’s commercial real estate donor class.

It's more than that. DC is going to face a massive property tax shortfall if office buildings get revalued downward by 50%. CRE pays property tax rates that are 2x of DC homeowners.

It will start a services cut-tax hike spiral on the remaining residents if CRE takes a big haircut. It will be Democratic-voting big cities that will face the brunt of these revenue shortfalls. Crime will go up, schools will get worse, poverty alleviation programs get eliminated, etc.

My kid is in DPR summer camp right now at our local park. It's an amazing program and costs me $150 for two weeks for 8am-6pm daily care + all food covered. It's safe, fun, and has a good curriculum of play + art + learning. It's dirt cheap and he has fun. If CRE gets revalued down by 50%, that summer camp option gets eliminated. Or it goes up in price so much that poor and MC DC families can't afford it.

I'm all for wfh, but sending people back into the office, so that rents and valuations can be higher, so you can enjoy cheap summer camp is the most ridiculous and selfish argument I have ever heard.

[Anonymous]

Right now a tornado alert issued and all federal workers in office told to go home by 4pm.

Guess what it is 415 pm now and no added traffic on 95. Guess what Federal workers are home in their PJs watching Netflix. There are none in the office to actually be sent home early.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

+1. Do federal employees make up any significant portion of Biden's voters? I can't stand his position on this but I would also never vote for a Republican to completely mess up everything.

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Anonymous wrote:Right now a tornado alert issued and all federal workers in office told to go home by 4pm.

Guess what it is 415 pm now and no added traffic on 95. Guess what Federal workers are home in their PJs watching Netflix. There are none in the office to actually be sent home early.

This is not true at all. Massive traffic everywhere off of 495 near NOVA/Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right now a tornado alert issued and all federal workers in office told to go home by 4pm.

Guess what it is 415 pm now and no added traffic on 95. Guess what Federal workers are home in their PJs watching Netflix. There are none in the office to actually be sent home early.

This is not true at all. Massive traffic everywhere off of 495 near NOVA/Bethesda.

No traffic from Arlington toward Fairfax

[Anonymous]

Heard that Zoom, the very company that made wfh logistics easier, has told all of its employees to return to the office.
Sort of interesting, no? ...

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Anonymous wrote:If they can guarantee for us working parents that schools won't close down, or close contacts have to stay home, or need any proof of negative test results before returning to school after being sick, sure. But if we have to put up with that nonsense in any possible covid "surges", then no we can't RTO in any meaningful way.

You can, not "can't", you will just be inconvenienced; work isn't always convenient, you knew that before COVID and nothing has changed. I am sure you wouldn't like it if teachers worked from home as much as you do.

good thing that we, like teachers, have unions and legal rights here.

You can express your legal rights happily when you go back to office in a few weeks

Not happening at my agency, sorry!

You are the one person who works at GPO who posts this all the time, the exception does not make the rule

Do you not understand labor law?

Again, the exceptions do not make the rule--no one is talking about your individual circumstances but I know for WFHomers it is always about me me me so you are not capable of taking a moment to think about big picture. It is not about you, your personal situation. Most feds will need to go back to office. I am sure administration is aware of labor laws.

ok dude

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Right now a tornado alert issued and all federal workers in office told to go home by 4pm.

Guess what it is 415 pm now and no added traffic on 95. Guess what Federal workers are home in their PJs watching Netflix. There are none in the office to actually be sent home early.

This is not true at all. Massive traffic everywhere off of 495 near NOVA/Bethesda.

We were told to leave by 3 and it took me twice as long to get home on Canal road because it was so packed

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is Biden’s commercial real estate donor class.

It's more than that. DC is going to face a massive property tax shortfall if office buildings get revalued downward by 50%. CRE pays property tax rates that are 2x of DC homeowners.

It will start a services cut-tax hike spiral on the remaining residents if CRE takes a big haircut. It will be Democratic-voting big cities that will face the brunt of these revenue shortfalls. Crime will go up, schools will get worse, poverty alleviation programs get eliminated, etc.

My kid is in DPR summer camp right now at our local park. It's an amazing program and costs me $150 for two weeks for 8am-6pm daily care + all food covered. It's safe, fun, and has a good curriculum of play + art + learning. It's dirt cheap and he has fun. If CRE gets revalued down by 50%, that summer camp option gets eliminated. Or it goes up in price so much that poor and MC DC families can't afford it.

I'm all for wfh, but sending people back into the office, so that rents and valuations can be higher, so you can enjoy cheap summer camp is the most ridiculous and selfish argument I have ever heard.

The arguments on both sides are selfish. Some people benefit, others lose. Funding social programs in major cities is really one of the best ones I've seen yet.

I wish people would just admit that instead of acting like RTO is definitely going to do greater good for all and the costs for (for example) young and mid-career GS 7-12 feds who can't afford to live in DC with a family and have to brown bag lunch anyway are meaningless. Feds are being told to suck it up for the benefit of others as a term of employment, regardless of individual circumstance and need. Let's just be honest here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think it is Biden’s commercial real estate donor class.

It's more than that. DC is going to face a massive property tax shortfall if office buildings get revalued downward by 50%. CRE pays property tax rates that are 2x of DC homeowners.

It will start a services cut-tax hike spiral on the remaining residents if CRE takes a big haircut. It will be Democratic-voting big cities that will face the brunt of these revenue shortfalls. Crime will go up, schools will get worse, poverty alleviation programs get eliminated, etc.

My kid is in DPR summer camp right now at our local park. It's an amazing program and costs me $150 for two weeks for 8am-6pm daily care + all food covered. It's safe, fun, and has a good curriculum of play + art + learning. It's dirt cheap and he has fun. If CRE gets revalued down by 50%, that summer camp option gets eliminated. Or it goes up in price so much that poor and MC DC families can't afford it.

I'm all for wfh, but sending people back into the office, so that rents and valuations can be higher, so you can enjoy cheap summer camp is the most ridiculous and selfish argument I have ever heard.

The arguments on both sides are selfish. Some people benefit, others lose. Funding social programs in major cities is really one of the best ones I've seen yet.

I wish people would just admit that instead of acting like RTO is definitely going to do greater good for all and the costs for (for example) young and mid-career GS 7-12 feds who can't afford to live in DC with a family and have to brown bag lunch anyway are meaningless. Feds are being told to suck it up for the benefit of others as a term of employment, regardless of individual circumstance and need. Let's just be honest here.

Feds are being told to suck it up because that’s what Zients’s private equity buddies want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I won't vote for Trump but will absolutely vote for the next Republican.

The jokes keep on coming. All the Republicans want RTO. They don’t value government workers and think they are overpaid and the force requires a reduction in force. You’re Laughable.

[Anonymous]

Eh, Democrats are going into this next election cycle taking core constituencies for granted (the same mistake the Republicans made last cycle). Fed workers are just one of them, pushed aside to get donations from large commercial real estate interests. Maybe it will work for them, maybe it won’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've never understood federal employee unions. Feds already have tons of protections, what is the need?

One example at my agency management gave up a ton of office space and they are now expecting employees to store federal records at their houses. This isn't coming from the line managers, it's the political appointees that pull this nonsense.

Isn’t Donald Trump being prosecuted for taking files home and storing them. I would refuse.