Biden wants RTO

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Anonymous wrote:Right now a tornado alert issued and all federal workers in office told to go home by 4pm.

Guess what it is 415 pm now and no added traffic on 95. Guess what Federal workers are home in their PJs watching Netflix. There are none in the office to actually be sent home early.

Good. They have a right to be safe. Meanwhile Biden is enjoying another week off on vacation away from the office. And, why aren’t you working?

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

DP. All it takes is a a relatively small number of voters to sit out the election, and Virginia is red again. Now, when small business owners in the burbs (who tend to lean right) start losing money to DC… they’ll gladly turn out to vote for republicans. Madness.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is Biden’s commercial real estate donor class.

It's more than that. DC is going to face a massive property tax shortfall if office buildings get revalued downward by 50%. CRE pays property tax rates that are 2x of DC homeowners.

It will start a services cut-tax hike spiral on the remaining residents if CRE takes a big haircut. It will be Democratic-voting big cities that will face the brunt of these revenue shortfalls. Crime will go up, schools will get worse, poverty alleviation programs get eliminated, etc.

My kid is in DPR summer camp right now at our local park. It's an amazing program and costs me $150 for two weeks for 8am-6pm daily care + all food covered. It's safe, fun, and has a good curriculum of play + art + learning. It's dirt cheap and he has fun. If CRE gets revalued down by 50%, that summer camp option gets eliminated. Or it goes up in price so much that poor and MC DC families can't afford it.

I'm all for wfh, but sending people back into the office, so that rents and valuations can be higher, so you can enjoy cheap summer camp is the most ridiculous and selfish argument I have ever heard.

The arguments on both sides are selfish. Some people benefit, others lose. Funding social programs in major cities is really one of the best ones I've seen yet.

I wish people would just admit that instead of acting like RTO is definitely going to do greater good for all and the costs for (for example) young and mid-career GS 7-12 feds who can't afford to live in DC with a family and have to brown bag lunch anyway are meaningless. Feds are being told to suck it up for the benefit of others as a term of employment, regardless of individual circumstance and need. Let's just be honest here.

Feds are being told to suck it up because that’s what Zients’s private equity buddies want.

How do you know that Zients has PE buddies? Maybe he doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

Just stop. Half the posters who want to WFH voted for TFG, and was rooting for DeSantis before he exposed his crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Eh, Democrats are going into this next election cycle taking core constituencies for granted (the same mistake the Republicans made last cycle). Fed workers are just one of them, pushed aside to get donations from large commercial real estate interests. Maybe it will work for them, maybe it won’t.

Are Federal employees core constituents of the Democrats only? Or are they like most of America, split down the middle.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is Biden’s commercial real estate donor class.

It's more than that. DC is going to face a massive property tax shortfall if office buildings get revalued downward by 50%. CRE pays property tax rates that are 2x of DC homeowners.

It will start a services cut-tax hike spiral on the remaining residents if CRE takes a big haircut. It will be Democratic-voting big cities that will face the brunt of these revenue shortfalls. Crime will go up, schools will get worse, poverty alleviation programs get eliminated, etc.

My kid is in DPR summer camp right now at our local park. It's an amazing program and costs me $150 for two weeks for 8am-6pm daily care + all food covered. It's safe, fun, and has a good curriculum of play + art + learning. It's dirt cheap and he has fun. If CRE gets revalued down by 50%, that summer camp option gets eliminated. Or it goes up in price so much that poor and MC DC families can't afford it.

I'm all for wfh, but sending people back into the office, so that rents and valuations can be higher, so you can enjoy cheap summer camp is the most ridiculous and selfish argument I have ever heard.

The arguments on both sides are selfish. Some people benefit, others lose. Funding social programs in major cities is really one of the best ones I've seen yet.

I wish people would just admit that instead of acting like RTO is definitely going to do greater good for all and the costs for (for example) young and mid-career GS 7-12 feds who can't afford to live in DC with a family and have to brown bag lunch anyway are meaningless. Feds are being told to suck it up for the benefit of others as a term of employment, regardless of individual circumstance and need. Let's just be honest here.

Feds are being told to suck it up because that’s what Zients’s private equity buddies want.

How do you know that Zients has PE buddies? Maybe he doesn't.

Don’t be naive.

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

Republicans tend to hate federal workers until they're in charge and they become federal workers themselves. We had bigger pay raises under Trump than we did under Obama.

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Great big nothingburger! My supervisor has already said not to expect any significant change which for my division is two days/pp (and most in the bureau as well). Zients can wish in one hand and sh1+ in the other and see which one fills up faster.

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Anonymous wrote:Eh, Democrats are going into this next election cycle taking core constituencies for granted (the same mistake the Republicans made last cycle). Fed workers are just one of them, pushed aside to get donations from large commercial real estate interests. Maybe it will work for them, maybe it won’t.

Are Federal employees core constituents of the Democrats only? Or are they like most of America, split down the middle.

Heavily democratic which makes Biden's actions extremely insulting.

https://federalnewsnetwork.com/federal-report/2017/04/are-feds-democrats-or-republicans-follow-the-money-trail/

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

For this 52-year period, the federal workforce has had higher pay raises during a Republican administration. Here is how it breaks out.

The average pay raise per year: 3.71%
Under Republicans: 4.05%
Under Democrats: 3.65%

https://www.fedsmith.com/2021/01/10/50-years-federal-pay-democrats-v-republicans/

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I’m a die hard liberal but this whole post has me feeling like feds are special snowflakes.

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They’re not talking about returning to office all 5 days of the week. Why is everyone losing their $hit over this?

I'm not losing my $hit, it is very frustrating, given that I have scheduled my kids' multiple therapies around thinking that I would only have to commute two days per pay period (if I am at home I can either use about an hour, vs. about 3 hours of leave, or do it in the early evening, since I have no commute). Now I may have to try to unwind that or pay someone to take them to them as scheduled. It definitely doesn't reflect appreciation for all of the extra hours I have put in for this job, and the work-related travel I already do, which takes me away from my family during non-business hours. I'm likely not quitting the job over it, but it's not a good thing for me or my kids.

What did you do before 2020? My kids were young before telework existed, and I had to use a lot of my leave for those types of things. It's nice to save your leave for just "fun" stuff, but this is life with kids.

It's this type of privilege that pisses the rest of the country off about Feds.

Well I had to use my own sick/annual leave and LWOP for my pregnancies, but I’m glad that my coworkers having babies now get paid parental leave. I truly don’t understand this who attitude of calling anyone privileged who expects better work/life balance than you had.

I’m personally glad that a silver lining of shut downs is that workers finally realized they don’t have to live their lives using their PTO to compensate for their long commutes in order to receive medical care and that they’ve been given flexibility to better balance these needs so they can actually take a vacation.

I’m sorry that you view doing fun stuff as a “privilege” for working parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a die hard liberal but this whole post has me feeling like feds are special snowflakes.

Are you a fed?

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Anonymous wrote:The Biden admin just keeps pissing the wrong people off and it's going to back fire royally. They keep pushing they will see what's going to happen next election.

+100 THIS!

This idiocy was floated in another thread on this topic. It's as silly now as it was then.

I’m not sure I’d want to f-around with the Virginia vote.

Precisely which Republican candidate will be better for federal workers (i) on WFH issues, and (ii) generally speaking than Biden?

DP. All it takes is a a relatively small number of voters to sit out the election, and Virginia is red again. Now, when small business owners in the burbs (who tend to lean right) start losing money to DC… they’ll gladly turn out to vote for republicans. Madness.

Good point. We saw how Youngkin won with the constituent of angry moms.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it is Biden’s commercial real estate donor class.

It's more than that. DC is going to face a massive property tax shortfall if office buildings get revalued downward by 50%. CRE pays property tax rates that are 2x of DC homeowners.

It will start a services cut-tax hike spiral on the remaining residents if CRE takes a big haircut. It will be Democratic-voting big cities that will face the brunt of these revenue shortfalls. Crime will go up, schools will get worse, poverty alleviation programs get eliminated, etc.

My kid is in DPR summer camp right now at our local park. It's an amazing program and costs me $150 for two weeks for 8am-6pm daily care + all food covered. It's safe, fun, and has a good curriculum of play + art + learning. It's dirt cheap and he has fun. If CRE gets revalued down by 50%, that summer camp option gets eliminated. Or it goes up in price so much that poor and MC DC families can't afford it.

I live in Arlington and even the county run camps are easily $350-500/week and then often more for extended hours. So I am now supposed to come into DC to buy a sandwich and coffee so you can have your subsidized camp? Are you serious?

Sorry, but it’s not my job as a VA resident to make sure your locality can provide you with $75/week childcare.