The Kennedy Center is ridiculous for still requiring masks

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.

So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.

You wouldn't understand or accept any science provided. So, why would anyone provide something (and to be clear, I'm not the poster you're referring to. You're just annoying af and looking to argue).

I’ve been following all COVID protocols and have sought data to back my decisions. I’m just asking for the same here.

Maybe the KC cares about their ushers and wants as few cases among them as possible.

Do you care about the ushers?

So you’re saying Broadway doesn’t care about them?

I asked you a question first.

Just as Broadway theaters are doing, I think that having masks be optional is perfectly sufficient for keeping them safe.

+1 and London theaters. Also schools and indoor sporting events. All of these mask optional experiments ongoing and doing just fine.

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Japan. Look up their covid death per million.

what on earth does that have to do with masks. All Japan showed us was that prolonged stringent mask mandates do not ultimately work to suppress covid spread. They have fewer deaths per million because A. they're not as obese and sick as we Americans are, B. they probably have higher vaccination rates because they don't have MAGA antivaxxers all over, and C. when covid finally hit, it was with a less severe variant.

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.

So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.

You wouldn't understand or accept any science provided. So, why would anyone provide something (and to be clear, I'm not the poster you're referring to. You're just annoying af and looking to argue).

I’ve been following all COVID protocols and have sought data to back my decisions. I’m just asking for the same here.

Maybe the KC cares about their ushers and wants as few cases among them as possible.

Do you care about the ushers?

So you’re saying Broadway doesn’t care about them?

I asked you a question first.

Just as Broadway theaters are doing, I think that having masks be optional is perfectly sufficient for keeping them safe.

+1 and London theaters. Also schools and indoor sporting events. All of these mask optional experiments ongoing and doing just fine.

And concerts, and conventions, and airplanes, and colleges . . .

But the Kennedy Center and DC are special covid hotspots .

I have no dog in this fight as I have no plans or desire to go to the KC but their policy is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Japan. Look up their covid death per million.

How is Japan relevant to mask efficacy in theaters in September 2022?

everybody wears masks indoor.

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Japan. Look up their covid death per million.

what on earth does that have to do with masks. All Japan showed us was that prolonged stringent mask mandates do not ultimately work to suppress covid spread. They have fewer deaths per million because A. they're not as obese and sick as we Americans are, B. they probably have higher vaccination rates because they don't have MAGA antivaxxers all over, and C. when covid finally hit, it was with a less severe variant.

They were hit by the same waves and their motility rate was a fraction of US during every wave.

Besides it is gross to comingle breath with strangers indoor regardless of covid.

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Anonymous wrote:If wearing a mask for a few hours will ruin seeing Hamilton, you need better coping skills.

+1

Same for those who think it is “just a way for [Kennedy Center] to control people…”. How does that work, exactly? What is Kennedy Center controlling? For what purpose? What is the end goal? I’m stumped.

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.

So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.

You wouldn't understand or accept any science provided. So, why would anyone provide something (and to be clear, I'm not the poster you're referring to. You're just annoying af and looking to argue).

I’ve been following all COVID protocols and have sought data to back my decisions. I’m just asking for the same here.

Maybe the KC cares about their ushers and wants as few cases among them as possible.

Do you care about the ushers?

So you’re saying Broadway doesn’t care about them?

I asked you a question first.

Just as Broadway theaters are doing, I think that having masks be optional is perfectly sufficient for keeping them safe.

+1 and London theaters. Also schools and indoor sporting events. All of these mask optional experiments ongoing and doing just fine.

And concerts, and conventions, and airplanes, and colleges . . .

But the Kennedy Center and DC are special covid hotspots .

I have no dog in this fight as I have no plans or desire to go to the KC but their policy is ridiculous.

Well many I know who flew this month or moved into a dorm also just got COVID.

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Anonymous wrote:If wearing a mask for a few hours will ruin seeing Hamilton, you need better coping skills.

+1

Same for those who think it is “just a way for [Kennedy Center] to control people…”. How does that work, exactly? What is Kennedy Center controlling? For what purpose? What is the end goal? I’m stumped.

And since doctor’s offices still require masks, are they “trying to control people,” too?

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.

So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.

You wouldn't understand or accept any science provided. So, why would anyone provide something (and to be clear, I'm not the poster you're referring to. You're just annoying af and looking to argue).

I’ve been following all COVID protocols and have sought data to back my decisions. I’m just asking for the same here.

Maybe the KC cares about their ushers and wants as few cases among them as possible.

Do you care about the ushers?

So you’re saying Broadway doesn’t care about them?

I asked you a question first.

Just as Broadway theaters are doing, I think that having masks be optional is perfectly sufficient for keeping them safe.

+1 and London theaters. Also schools and indoor sporting events. All of these mask optional experiments ongoing and doing just fine.

And concerts, and conventions, and airplanes, and colleges . . .

But the Kennedy Center and DC are special covid hotspots .

I have no dog in this fight as I have no plans or desire to go to the KC but their policy is ridiculous.

Well many I know who flew this month or moved into a dorm also just got COVID.

Anecdotes do not equal data. Random infections are going to occur. That's not the same as all of these places needing to shut down due to mass transmission. Its just not happening.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw a show at the Kennedy Center recently and was yelled at by an usher for not putting my mask on between sips of water (less than 30 seconds). They were pretty militant looking to scold people. Meanwhile I've seen events with celebrities at the Kennedy Center on TV with no masks in site. It's just a way to control people and I'm not going back anytime soon.

Same. They've really ramped up their development calls since the vaccine and mask requirements went into effect, so attendance must be down.

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.

So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.

You wouldn't understand or accept any science provided. So, why would anyone provide something (and to be clear, I'm not the poster you're referring to. You're just annoying af and looking to argue).

I’ve been following all COVID protocols and have sought data to back my decisions. I’m just asking for the same here.

Maybe the KC cares about their ushers and wants as few cases among them as possible.

Do you care about the ushers?

So you’re saying Broadway doesn’t care about them?

I asked you a question first.

Just as Broadway theaters are doing, I think that having masks be optional is perfectly sufficient for keeping them safe.

+1 and London theaters. Also schools and indoor sporting events. All of these mask optional experiments ongoing and doing just fine.

And concerts, and conventions, and airplanes, and colleges . . .

But the Kennedy Center and DC are special covid hotspots .

I have no dog in this fight as I have no plans or desire to go to the KC but their policy is ridiculous.

Well many I know who flew this month or moved into a dorm also just got COVID.

Anecdotes do not equal data. Random infections are going to occur. That's not the same as all of these places needing to shut down due to mass transmission. Its just not happening.

Either way. They require a mask.

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Arena Stage is still requiring masks AND a vaccine. They also have a "my body, no choice" poster on their main page. https://www.arenastage.org/tickets/healthsafetyfaq/

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Anonymous wrote:The sent out a survey long ago and discovered too many people would not come back unless there were masks required and that patrons did not trust other patrons to self monitor for contagiousness.

Trouble is, if they sent out the same survey today, they would get different answers, but they are operating on the old data.

In your opinion. Many of us have avoided covid by masking appropriately. I work in healthcare and wear a mask everyday all day. No covid. Vaccine and masks work. Also consider the age of the Kennedy Center. I cannot imagine their hvac is what is needed for large crowds.

Oh, sure. Every member of the Kennedy Center audience is going to be wearing a properly fit tested N95 mask.

In fact, it is likely likely that *zero* members of the audience will be wearing a mask that is actually effective. It is literally *theater.*

It is also highly likely that you have had covid and were asymptomatic. I do believe that vaccines work -- which is why the mask mandate is ridiculous.

It's this kind of absence of common sense that has completely destroyed the public's faith in the public health establishment.

Anything is helpful. There is still some protection even without a fit test. You are the one lack common sense.

Real life data shows zero protection from anything other than properly fitted N95 masks. Remember those pictures of nurses with bruised faces from wearing masks all day? That’s what wearing a properly fitted mask looks like. No one at the Kennedy Center, other than a health care professional that came directly from work and brought their mask with them, is wearing a mask properly (and even a lot of those aren’t properly fitted). That blue surgical mask may make you feel better, but it does nothing to protect you from Covid.

But the people who know more than you beg to differ. Masks (especially when everyone is wearing them) to lessen transmission.. https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014564118

My kids teacher was a bearded wonder in a k95 all year. What a joke. He got Covid and missed the last two months of school. Guess the jokes on the students. Again.

So you and your children don’t take statistics? Reducing your risk is not the same as eliminating your risk?

I’m not a germ phobe but I would like to avoid getting something that would make me miss 2 months of work.

Also, crappy masks don't do NOTHING. The messaging that cloth masks are not enough to reliably protect against omicron has been completely bastardized, no surprise.

Let's say there is a covid shedder 15 feet from you at a theater. If you're sitting right next to that person for 2 hours, you're probably screwed no matter what kind of masks are being worn. But at 15 feet, a lot of time is needed to infect you. Two hours unmasked might be enough, but at that distance two hours with some sort of mask may not amount to enough viral load to cause infection.

1000 people in a theater is a big herd. Having the whole herd in KN95s is best. Having the herd in a variety of masks is better than an unmasked herd of 1000 individuals.

So if you’re right, then we should be hearing all about outbreaks coming from Broadway theaters in NYC. Care to share articles about that?

Of course I'm right. It's logic.

Why would there be articles about patrons getting sick from covid after attending Broadway shows? Nobody reports their cases anymore and few people can pinpoint where they got infected.

That’s convenient. It allows you to claim whatever you want, without proof.

Of course, we would see evidence of Broadway shows being shut down because actors got COVID from unmasked audience members. That doesn’t appear to be happening lately. What’s your response to that?

You need proof that any mask is better than no mask? Given that the KC requires masks, many people will choose a good one if they have to wear one.

Yes, I want proof that masks prevent outbreaks. Given that Broadway itself doesn’t require them, it seems we have a pretty good experiment going. NYC should be seeing cast outbreaks if your argument is correct.

Masks reduce transmission. KN95s do this better than cloth and surgical. Reduction is good. Total prevention clearly cannot be the goal.

I can't believe you need this explained to you and it's almost 2023.

Bye.

So you have no data to prove that this is the case, even given vaccinations and COVID likely being endemic at this point. Got it.

You wouldn't understand or accept any science provided. So, why would anyone provide something (and to be clear, I'm not the poster you're referring to. You're just annoying af and looking to argue).

I’ve been following all COVID protocols and have sought data to back my decisions. I’m just asking for the same here.

Maybe the KC cares about their ushers and wants as few cases among them as possible.

Do you care about the ushers?

So you’re saying Broadway doesn’t care about them?

I asked you a question first.

Just as Broadway theaters are doing, I think that having masks be optional is perfectly sufficient for keeping them safe.

+1 and London theaters. Also schools and indoor sporting events. All of these mask optional experiments ongoing and doing just fine.

And concerts, and conventions, and airplanes, and colleges . . .

But the Kennedy Center and DC are special covid hotspots .

I have no dog in this fight as I have no plans or desire to go to the KC but their policy is ridiculous.

Well many I know who flew this month or moved into a dorm also just got COVID.

Anecdotes do not equal data. Random infections are going to occur. That's not the same as all of these places needing to shut down due to mass transmission. Its just not happening.

Either way. They require a mask.

This is what you come back to because you can’t actually prove the massive super spreading you keep alleging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m seeing Hamilton this week and did not realize until I received my ‘reminder’ email that this is still a requirement. They have to be one of the only places (with the exception of hospitals/doctor’s offices) to require this!

Will really dampen the experience.

It gets better, OP.

Actors must wear masks too -- after all they are the ones directing their breathe towards the audience.

It's a scientific fact.