Thanksgiving with two vegan guests; please help me plan!

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

Fake meat products were not on this person‘s menu. Where is the beef?

We’re talking about green beans

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Anonymous wrote:I think I know what I’ll be grateful for this coming TG!

For me it’s staying home!

No vegan guests lol!

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Anonymous wrote:I think I know what I’ll be grateful for this coming TG!

For me it’s staying home!

No vegan guests lol!

All diners are welcome in our home. Minus cannibals, and very specific kinks.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I think what you’ve outlined is just fine. You could add a vegan “ice cream” like tofuti to the apple pie filling if you want to dress it up. For the dishes you’re altering, vegan butter works well and tastes pretty good.

What brand of vegan butter can you recommend?

I've used Earth Balance when cooking for vegan guests and found it to be quite good.

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Anonymous wrote:I think I know what I’ll be grateful for this coming TG!

For me it’s staying home!

No vegan guests lol!

All diners are welcome in our home. Minus cannibals, and very specific kinks.

[slinks away in Armie Hammer]

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Anonymous wrote:As a vegetarian:

Apps: hummus and crackers/veg is enough. Shot glasses of vegan vichyssoise seems too minimal for Thanksgiving, but vegan soup would be awesome as a side dish for the main dinner (offered in a bowl, not a shot glass)

Sides:
I love that you'll set aside vegan mashed potatoes. Very thoughtful.
Yes to roasted vegetables.
No mushrooms. Not all vegans like them.
How do you make your dressing/stuffing? If it's box mix, it's not vegan.
No field roast. Sometimes it's just weird.
Add: Salad with lots of ingredients (and store bought vegan dressing),
Fresh sauteed green beans with almonds.

OP says she regularly makes Burgundy mushrooms, and you’re freaking telling her not to make them because “some vegans don’t like them”?! One doesn’t have to be vegetarian or vegan to like mushrooms and to want them as a side, especially if it’s a recipe that OP routinely makes as tradition. Do you hear yourself? It’s not all about the vegan guests! My goodness, the entitlement strikes again. And you obviously also don’t speak for all vegans.

Easier thing to do. Ask the folks coming. They might have a good suggestion or offer to cook something too. 🤯

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

This is going to make your head explode: I love veggie burgers but I don't like fake turkey.

This is really really going to make you lose your mind: some vegans dislike all of the fake meat products.

Hope you're ok.

And now the Earth-shattering news: just because you, personally, don’t like something does not mean that other people do not like it.

Wowie zowie! Are you OK?

Yes, that's what I just said.

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

This is going to make your head explode: I love veggie burgers but I don't like fake turkey.

This is really really going to make you lose your mind: some vegans dislike all of the fake meat products.

Hope you're ok.

And now the Earth-shattering news: just because you, personally, don’t like something does not mean that other people do not like it.

Wowie zowie! Are you OK?

Yes, that's what I just said.

No, it’s not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

What's it to you?

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Anonymous wrote:You will provide salad and vegetables and drinks. They can bring the rest for themselves. You have enough on your plate. Plus, you won't make it right no matter how hard you try. If they want a vegan turkey, they can bring one to serve on the side.

No one wants vegan turkey. Even us disordered vegans 😂

Oh, but you want to feel included! You want to be treated like other guests! How dare there not be as many vegan options for you as there is a full spread for other guests. And how are you supposed to live without some type of protein?! Your lazy, lazy host made vegan chili AGAIN?

Wow. Your mind goes to strange places.

I suggest you buy yourself a Tofurkey and try it out before serving it to any guests. It is not some thing you’ll repeat.

But please do go on excessively.

The threshold isn’t “would you enjoy it, OP,” because vegan food is not enjoyable. The threshold is provide some vegan options because you must, but none of it is good so why bother.

I'm not a vegan. I eat all kinds of foods -- ALL kinds, including vegan. Also gf, df -- ALL KINDS. Because I enjoy food. Our favorite frozen waffles are the gf waffles from Trader Joe's, not because we're gf (we're not) but because they're the best frozen waffles.

Speak for yourself, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

This is going to make your head explode: I love veggie burgers but I don't like fake turkey.

This is really really going to make you lose your mind: some vegans dislike all of the fake meat products.

Hope you're ok.

And some like them and have suggested OP get them.

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

This is going to make your head explode: I love veggie burgers but I don't like fake turkey.

This is really really going to make you lose your mind: some vegans dislike all of the fake meat products.

Hope you're ok.

And some like them and have suggested OP get them.

You’re missing the point while trying to prove something. The op never asked about adding fake meat to their menu. Ok, fake meats exist. Some people like them. Some people do not. Before investing in them it’s not a bad idea to ask your guest which column they are in.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I think what you’ve outlined is just fine. You could add a vegan “ice cream” like tofuti to the apple pie filling if you want to dress it up. For the dishes you’re altering, vegan butter works well and tastes pretty good.

What brand of vegan butter can you recommend?

Miyokos is a tasty vegan butter. Their regular one is cashew based but they also make an oat milk one. Be sure to read the label jic. Earth Balance is another solid option. Both are usually available at regular grocery stores and definitely at Whole Foods, sometimes Trader Joe’s, Target.

Thank you.

No problem. We also use the So Delicious plain UNSWEETENED coconut yogurt (the green label) as a substitute when making things like mashed potatoes. It is a little creamier than plant-based milks and it gives it a nice flavor. It’s good for sauces and curries and I sub it for some of the wet ingredients in baking.

We have dairy, nut, and gluten allergies in our home - though not all same person, so cooking is creative. I was vegetarian when younger and found it helped me with cooking flexibility. You orient from a different place and learn how to substitute with ease.

Oh. Also while it’s not exactly Boursin there is a follow your heart version of Boursin you can get it Wegmans that is amazing. Like a herbed cream cheese. If you got that and some crackers or sliced veggies it would be such a treat. A good pre-meal nosh for vegan guests.

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

When people say they don't like Tofurkey, mostly they are trying to help OP avoid spending money and time on food that will go wasted. I am one of the few vegs who likes a Tofurkey, and even I only eat a slice of it (it's very rubbery and very strange tasting). It's not anyone demanding anything of OP - just trying to provide her the guidance she specifically asked for.

No one wants to be the ungrateful GF apple pie villain part II, which is what is risked if OP goes way out of her way for foods that her vegan guests don't actually eat.

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Anonymous wrote:You will provide salad and vegetables and drinks. They can bring the rest for themselves. You have enough on your plate. Plus, you won't make it right no matter how hard you try. If they want a vegan turkey, they can bring one to serve on the side.

No one wants vegan turkey. Even us disordered vegans 😂

Oh, but you want to feel included! You want to be treated like other guests! How dare there not be as many vegan options for you as there is a full spread for other guests. And how are you supposed to live without some type of protein?! Your lazy, lazy host made vegan chili AGAIN?

Wow. Your mind goes to strange places.

I suggest you buy yourself a Tofurkey and try it out before serving it to any guests. It is not some thing you’ll repeat.

But please do go on excessively.

The threshold isn’t “would you enjoy it, OP,” because vegan food is not enjoyable. The threshold is provide some vegan options because you must, but none of it is good so why bother.

Except there's a lot of really good vegan food. So the standard shouldn't be, is this garbage free of animal products, but is this food that my vegan guests - who presumably I invited over because I want them there - like to eat.