Thanksgiving with two vegan guests; please help me plan!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a vegetarian:

Apps: hummus and crackers/veg is enough. Shot glasses of vegan vichyssoise seems too minimal for Thanksgiving, but vegan soup would be awesome as a side dish for the main dinner (offered in a bowl, not a shot glass)

Sides:
I love that you'll set aside vegan mashed potatoes. Very thoughtful.
Yes to roasted vegetables.
No mushrooms. Not all vegans like them.
How do you make your dressing/stuffing? If it's box mix, it's not vegan.
No field roast. Sometimes it's just weird.
Add: Salad with lots of ingredients (and store bought vegan dressing),
Fresh sauteed green beans with almonds.

OP says she regularly makes Burgundy mushrooms, and you’re freaking telling her not to make them because “some vegans don’t like them”?! One doesn’t have to be vegetarian or vegan to like mushrooms and to want them as a side, especially if it’s a recipe that OP routinely makes as tradition. Do you hear yourself? It’s not all about the vegan guests! My goodness, the entitlement strikes again. And you obviously also don’t speak for all vegans.

+1 good grief. And now you want her to add green beans with almonds “for the vegans” when her child has a nut allergy??

Are you sock puppeting or are there actually multiple people who think offering advice to someone who asked for it is "entitlement?"

There’s at least two of us. I for one am just shaking my head that you are tearing down perfectly nice starter menu and offering ridiculous non-starter “suggestions.”

Oh hmmm maybe it's because op asked for input.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a vegetarian:

Apps: hummus and crackers/veg is enough. Shot glasses of vegan vichyssoise seems too minimal for Thanksgiving, but vegan soup would be awesome as a side dish for the main dinner (offered in a bowl, not a shot glass)

Sides:
I love that you'll set aside vegan mashed potatoes. Very thoughtful.
Yes to roasted vegetables.
No mushrooms. Not all vegans like them.
How do you make your dressing/stuffing? If it's box mix, it's not vegan.
No field roast. Sometimes it's just weird.
Add: Salad with lots of ingredients (and store bought vegan dressing),
Fresh sauteed green beans with almonds.

OP says she regularly makes Burgundy mushrooms, and you’re freaking telling her not to make them because “some vegans don’t like them”?! One doesn’t have to be vegetarian or vegan to like mushrooms and to want them as a side, especially if it’s a recipe that OP routinely makes as tradition. Do you hear yourself? It’s not all about the vegan guests! My goodness, the entitlement strikes again. And you obviously also don’t speak for all vegans.

+1 good grief. And now you want her to add green beans with almonds “for the vegans” when her child has a nut allergy??

Are you sock puppeting or are there actually multiple people who think offering advice to someone who asked for it is "entitlement?"

There’s at least two of us. I for one am just shaking my head that you are tearing down perfectly nice starter menu and offering ridiculous non-starter “suggestions.”

Oh hmmm maybe it's because op asked for input.

You think telling OP not to make a vegan version of the mushroom dish she traditionally serves and the rest of the family enjoys because “some vegans don’t like mushrooms” is…helpful input?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You will provide salad and vegetables and drinks. They can bring the rest for themselves. You have enough on your plate. Plus, you won't make it right no matter how hard you try. If they want a vegan turkey, they can bring one to serve on the side.

No one wants vegan turkey. Even us disordered vegans 😂

Oh, but you want to feel included! You want to be treated like other guests! How dare there not be as many vegan options for you as there is a full spread for other guests. And how are you supposed to live without some type of protein?! Your lazy, lazy host made vegan chili AGAIN?

Wow. Your mind goes to strange places.

I suggest you buy yourself a Tofurkey and try it out before serving it to any guests. It is not some thing you’ll repeat.

But please do go on excessively.

The threshold isn’t “would you enjoy it, OP,” because vegan food is not enjoyable. The threshold is provide some vegan options because you must, but none of it is good so why bother.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a vegetarian:

Apps: hummus and crackers/veg is enough. Shot glasses of vegan vichyssoise seems too minimal for Thanksgiving, but vegan soup would be awesome as a side dish for the main dinner (offered in a bowl, not a shot glass)

Sides:
I love that you'll set aside vegan mashed potatoes. Very thoughtful.
Yes to roasted vegetables.
No mushrooms. Not all vegans like them.
How do you make your dressing/stuffing? If it's box mix, it's not vegan.
No field roast. Sometimes it's just weird.
Add: Salad with lots of ingredients (and store bought vegan dressing),
Fresh sauteed green beans with almonds.

OP says she regularly makes Burgundy mushrooms, and you’re freaking telling her not to make them because “some vegans don’t like them”?! One doesn’t have to be vegetarian or vegan to like mushrooms and to want them as a side, especially if it’s a recipe that OP routinely makes as tradition. Do you hear yourself? It’s not all about the vegan guests! My goodness, the entitlement strikes again. And you obviously also don’t speak for all vegans.

+1 good grief. And now you want her to add green beans with almonds “for the vegans” when her child has a nut allergy??

Are you sock puppeting or are there actually multiple people who think offering advice to someone who asked for it is "entitlement?"

There’s at least two of us. I for one am just shaking my head that you are tearing down perfectly nice starter menu and offering ridiculous non-starter “suggestions.”

Oh hmmm maybe it's because op asked for input.

You think telling OP not to make a vegan version of the mushroom dish she traditionally serves and the rest of the family enjoys because “some vegans don’t like mushrooms” is…helpful input?

Dude. Chill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You will provide salad and vegetables and drinks. They can bring the rest for themselves. You have enough on your plate. Plus, you won't make it right no matter how hard you try. If they want a vegan turkey, they can bring one to serve on the side.

No one wants vegan turkey. Even us disordered vegans 😂

Oh, but you want to feel included! You want to be treated like other guests! How dare there not be as many vegan options for you as there is a full spread for other guests. And how are you supposed to live without some type of protein?! Your lazy, lazy host made vegan chili AGAIN?

Wow. Your mind goes to strange places.

I suggest you buy yourself a Tofurkey and try it out before serving it to any guests. It is not some thing you’ll repeat.

But please do go on excessively.

The threshold isn’t “would you enjoy it, OP,” because vegan food is not enjoyable. The threshold is provide some vegan options because you must, but none of it is good so why bother.

Vegan food can absolutely delicious. In fact many of us eat vegan without realizing it every day. Heck a pbj is vegan. The op has it mostly worked out. Yeah, butter and animal fat are tasty. But food without that doesn’t taste like ash. My goodness. Your response is extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You will provide salad and vegetables and drinks. They can bring the rest for themselves. You have enough on your plate. Plus, you won't make it right no matter how hard you try. If they want a vegan turkey, they can bring one to serve on the side.

No one wants vegan turkey. Even us disordered vegans 😂

Oh, but you want to feel included! You want to be treated like other guests! How dare there not be as many vegan options for you as there is a full spread for other guests. And how are you supposed to live without some type of protein?! Your lazy, lazy host made vegan chili AGAIN?

This was a joke. 🦀

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

What is your point in relation to this post?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, OP, people who are this high-maintenance should be grateful for whatever they get.

You sound like a lovely host.

Actually, I am an accomplished and very experienced host. And I can tell you without hesitation that people like OP's guests are royal PITAs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

This is going to make your head explode: I love veggie burgers but I don't like fake turkey.

This is really really going to make you lose your mind: some vegans dislike all of the fake meat products.

Hope you're ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is really strange about conversations like this is that people are assuming a lot of things about guests with food restrictions allergies or choices. This host is asking for suggestions on how to modify a menu with minimal change. Which is an awesome thing to do. Making up the stories about folks rejecting chili or fruit pie or needing to eat salad shut up and be happy are hyper over the top.

I take it you’ve missed the posts where people have said “no no don’t serve tofurkey” and “put almonds in your green beans” (great for OP’s nut allergy kids) and…wait for it…don’t make mushrooms. Well-intended suggestions to add a tofurkey-type product are then met with “we don’t like processed fake meat,” etc., etc. And “no your plan to make extra vegan pie filling isn’t enough, make an extra vegan pie,” etc. What OP is already offering to do is more than enough. And then the conflicting comments come in from people who apparently mistake other people’s homes for restaurants.

Hello there. The vegans are saying they don't like tofurkey and they do like green beans. Precisely the input op asked for. Op is a good person who seems to be able to peruse a variety of info and make a decision. This is the point. You wish for every answer to be "don't do anything extra for the vegans." And for op to only see your advice. That's not how it works.

It’s amazing that, if apparently all vegetarians and vegans hate fake meat products so very much, they…continue to exist.

Miracle Whip also exists. As does velveeta and Vienna sausages.

What’s your point?

Oh well apparently all vegans and vegetarians hate fake meat products, according to this very thread, so OP shouldn’t make any. It’s just so weird because usually if there’s zero demand and no one wants a product and no one buys a product, it ceases to exist!

This is going to make your head explode: I love veggie burgers but I don't like fake turkey.

This is really really going to make you lose your mind: some vegans dislike all of the fake meat products.

Hope you're ok.

And now the Earth-shattering news: just because you, personally, don’t like something does not mean that other people do not like it.

Wowie zowie! Are you OK?