Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know someone who has been accepted into the FCPS "Teacher Resident" Program. He went to a school hiring event and was hired on the spot. Has a Bachelor's Degree (from a good school) and 15+ years work experience in nonprofit roles. No management experience. No real "teaching" experience, but tutored and ran small groups for kids and teens with disabilities. FCPS told him that he needed to pass the Praxis (non-Core teaching subject) to start in the classroom. He flunked the Praxis. Studied and took Praxis again and passed. I asked him if he would need to take the 180 hours of coursework during his first year (while concurrently teaching full-time) to gain licensure. (I had seen the 180 hour requirement for the 'Career Switcher' Program). He said, "As far as I know, since I passed the Praxis, I am a Certified teacher." He is in teacher orientation this week and will be teaching middle school on the 22nd. Quotes from him: "I'll be working from 7am - 2:30pm so I'll have a lot of free time." "This will be a cushy job." "I get 90 minutes of planning time every day, that's more than enough."

What is he teaching and what test did he have to pass?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: What is he teaching and what test did he have to pass?

Business Information and Technology/Praxis 5101

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know someone who has been accepted into the FCPS "Teacher Resident" Program. He went to a school hiring event and was hired on the spot. Has a Bachelor's Degree (from a good school) and 15+ years work experience in nonprofit roles. No management experience. No real "teaching" experience, but tutored and ran small groups for kids and teens with disabilities. FCPS told him that he needed to pass the Praxis (non-Core teaching subject) to start in the classroom. He flunked the Praxis. Studied and took Praxis again and passed. I asked him if he would need to take the 180 hours of coursework during his first year (while concurrently teaching full-time) to gain licensure. (I had seen the 180 hour requirement for the 'Career Switcher' Program). He said, "As far as I know, since I passed the Praxis, I am a Certified teacher." He is in teacher orientation this week and will be teaching middle school on the 22nd. Quotes from him: "I'll be working from 7am - 2:30pm so I'll have a lot of free time." "This will be a cushy job." "I get 90 minutes of planning time every day, that's more than enough."

It would be great if you could check back in with an update in a month or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: It would be great if you could check back in with an update in a month or two.

I will. Stay tuned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: What is he teaching and what test did he have to pass?

Business Information and Technology/Praxis 5101

What is taught in a middle school business information class?

My child took "leadership" and it was a joke, nothing at all like the description.

[Anonymous]

Just glanced at a sample test-any adult with a college degree should be able to pass that cold.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just glanced at a sample test-any adult with a college degree should be able to pass that cold.

There are different tests. There's a general core one that any adult with a college degree should be able to pass and then subject specific ones that you might need more refreshing depending on area that you are teaching. For instance, I highly doubt a non-artist would be able to pass the arts praxis "cold" as it requires things like knowing firing times in ceramics, art historical references, safety of various materials, principles of design etc.. Nothing you can't study and learn, but if it's not your area of expertise you're not going to pass it cold. Similarly, if it's been since high school that you took chemistry it might be hard to pass that test without some review.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t read the entire thread. Has FCPS considering contracting out certified teachers? Districts contract speech therapists, OTs and PTs - why not teachers? This may be a way teachers can get paid what they are worth and not have to do all of the extraneous duties administrators love to throw at them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread. Has FCPS considering contracting out certified teachers? Districts contract speech therapists, OTs and PTs - why not teachers? This may be a way teachers can get paid what they are worth and not have to do all of the extraneous duties administrators love to throw at them.

And where are they supposed to get these contract teachers when there are not enough teachers in the first place?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.

How do you know??

It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.

Got it. My school doesn’t have the directory updated yet.

It seems that FCPS is spinning it like these are teachers with out of state license or the wrong license but have taught before. But this is definitely IAs last year who are now teaching. Maybe even having an IA that is the same level of qualification as them. Haha

Actually we have a new SPED teacher with 18 years of experience but has a provisional due to a move. Not everything is being spun so tread lightly.

Provisional is much different than teacher resident. Provisional usually means they are licensed in another state. Provisional teachers are paid on the salary scale based on years of experience. Teacher Residents are not placed on the salary scale, they make 48 K.

I'm aware thanks....many parents are lumping the two together. My point is they are different.

FCPS PR is misleading and confusing parents..

I don't think so--I've been pleasantly surprised by the updates, the details etc. Pretty straightforward communications.

FCPS PR Teacher Residents are experienced teachers. False.

Reality Teacher Residents just need a BA in anything with zero praxis or experience requirements. Pay is 48K.

With a teacher shortage does FCPS really think anyone believes they can hire experienced teachers for 48K.


Teacher. 12 years. Private School.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread. Has FCPS considering contracting out certified teachers? Districts contract speech therapists, OTs and PTs - why not teachers? This may be a way teachers can get paid what they are worth and not have to do all of the extraneous duties administrators love to throw at them.

And where are they supposed to get these contract teachers when there are not enough teachers in the first place?

The concept would be like any contractor/people willing to work for higher pay with no benefits.

[Anonymous]

The Residents at my ES have both passed the Praxis and are considered certified teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Residents at my ES have both passed the Praxis and are considered certified teachers.

You cannot be considered a certified teacher. You are a certified teacher or you are not.

Passing the subject area praxis should be a minimum requirement for a teacher residency in MS or HS.

[Anonymous]

+ 1

Pay experienced teachers more instead of expecting inexperienced new residents or subs to be like certified teachers for 48K or less.

Teacher.

[Anonymous]

Our private is still short on teachers too. It’s a teaching profession problem not a fcps problem. Pay teachers more.