Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?

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Anonymous wrote:Whats iibymp?

“International baccalaureate, middle years program”

An exercise for teachers of grades 7-10 to revamp every single assignment theyve ever done to be rubric based. The years a school is getting certified/recertified, teachers will spend hours a week providing written documentation proving they are following some obscure nebulous structure. The county pays millions for these programs to “prepare more kids to take IB classes in 11/12 grade” IBMYP is a whole school “philosophy”. An expensive, time consuming philosophy. All middle schools that feed to IB high schools are IBMYP achools.

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Anonymous wrote:Whats iibymp?

“International baccalaureate, middle years program”

An exercise for teachers of grades 7-10 to revamp every single assignment theyve ever done to be rubric based. The years a school is getting certified/recertified, teachers will spend hours a week providing written documentation proving they are following some obscure nebulous structure. The county pays millions for these programs to “prepare more kids to take IB classes in 11/12 grade” IBMYP is a whole school “philosophy”. An expensive, time consuming philosophy. All middle schools that feed to IB high schools are IBMYP achools.

That is not true. Marshall is IB and Kilmer is not.

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Anonymous wrote:Whats iibymp?

“International baccalaureate, middle years program”

An exercise for teachers of grades 7-10 to revamp every single assignment theyve ever done to be rubric based. The years a school is getting certified/recertified, teachers will spend hours a week providing written documentation proving they are following some obscure nebulous structure. The county pays millions for these programs to “prepare more kids to take IB classes in 11/12 grade” IBMYP is a whole school “philosophy”. An expensive, time consuming philosophy. All middle schools that feed to IB high schools are IBMYP achools.

That is not true. Marshall is IB and Kilmer is not.

Kilmer is a split feeder so they probably got away without having to do it. The county rolled out the program to all direct feeders about 10 years ago.

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How ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.

How do you know??

It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.

Got it. My school doesn’t have the directory updated yet.

It seems that FCPS is spinning it like these are teachers with out of state license or the wrong license but have taught before. But this is definitely IAs last year who are now teaching. Maybe even having an IA that is the same level of qualification as them. Haha

Actually we have a new SPED teacher with 18 years of experience but has a provisional due to a move. Not everything is being spun so tread lightly.

Provisional is much different than teacher resident. Provisional usually means they are licensed in another state. Provisional teachers are paid on the salary scale based on years of experience. Teacher Residents are not placed on the salary scale, they make 48 K.

I'm aware thanks....many parents are lumping the two together. My point is they are different.

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Anonymous wrote:Substitute teachers don’t need 4yr college degree. No experience needed. No praxis test. Teacher residency is like a full time substitute job with a better title for college grads.

Not just a better title, a fast track to teacher licensing. I think it's smart. It will draw in some smart young people who are unsure what they want to do with their lives post-college and may find they like teaching. Broadens the pool of potential educators. Just get them to pass the praxis.

Our kids shouldn’t be subject to the whims and desperation of new college grads who can’t find a job elsewhere.

Then start pestering the powers that be to give teachers and IAs a massive pay raise. Like, equal to the same money all these people leaving to run recruiting events or do HR work for corporations are going to make. Otherwise, they’re going to keep bleeding out.

Alternatively, cap class sizes at 20 in lower elementary and 25 for 4-12. Guarantee xxx unencumbered planning minutes each week. Bring back actual discipline, dump the extra programs teachers are expected to run for $15/hr after school or on top of the curriculum (looking at you, IBMYP).

But it’s probably cheaper to just pay people more.

Yup this. Such simple things.
Pay more, cap class sizes(my class is huge this year), and unencumbered planning daily. That would make most teachers thrilled!!

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Especially the unencumbered planning time.

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Teacher.

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I know a German high school teacher. She only teaches for about 1/3 of her work day. The other 2/3 is for planning and grading. She was shocked to hear that American teachers are in front of the classroom all day and get very little time to do the other parts of our job. She never takes work home because she doesn’t have to.

I want to be paid better, but more importantly I want my time honored. I shouldn’t have to gift an extra 20-30 hours a week to my job.

So much this. Time to do our jobs during our contracted hours. It's not a lot to ask.

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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.

How do you know??

It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.

Got it. My school doesn’t have the directory updated yet.

It seems that FCPS is spinning it like these are teachers with out of state license or the wrong license but have taught before. But this is definitely IAs last year who are now teaching. Maybe even having an IA that is the same level of qualification as them. Haha

Actually we have a new SPED teacher with 18 years of experience but has a provisional due to a move. Not everything is being spun so tread lightly.

Provisional is much different than teacher resident. Provisional usually means they are licensed in another state. Provisional teachers are paid on the salary scale based on years of experience. Teacher Residents are not placed on the salary scale, they make 48 K.

I'm aware thanks....many parents are lumping the two together. My point is they are different.

FCPS PR is misleading and confusing parents..

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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.

How do you know??

It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.

Got it. My school doesn’t have the directory updated yet.

It seems that FCPS is spinning it like these are teachers with out of state license or the wrong license but have taught before. But this is definitely IAs last year who are now teaching. Maybe even having an IA that is the same level of qualification as them. Haha

Actually we have a new SPED teacher with 18 years of experience but has a provisional due to a move. Not everything is being spun so tread lightly.

Provisional is much different than teacher resident. Provisional usually means they are licensed in another state. Provisional teachers are paid on the salary scale based on years of experience. Teacher Residents are not placed on the salary scale, they make 48 K.

I'm aware thanks....many parents are lumping the two together. My point is they are different.

FCPS PR is misleading and confusing parents..

I don't think so--I've been pleasantly surprised by the updates, the details etc. Pretty straightforward communications.

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Has anyone read the new FCPS PR about the teacher resident program. They highlight two teachers who already have middle school licensure in other states and who are doing the teacher resident program in order to teach elementary school.

What are the chances that these are the only two people in the teacher resident program who have a valid active teaching license?

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Its interesting because I have only seen teachers
go from elementary to middle, not middle to ES

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Anonymous wrote:Its interesting because I have only seen teachers
go from elementary to middle, not middle to ES

I don’t know why anyone would want to move from MS to ES.

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I know someone who has been accepted into the FCPS "Teacher Resident" Program. He went to a school hiring event and was hired on the spot. Has a Bachelor's Degree (from a good school) and 15+ years work experience in nonprofit roles. No management experience. No real "teaching" experience, but tutored and ran small groups for kids and teens with disabilities. FCPS told him that he needed to pass the Praxis (non-Core teaching subject) to start in the classroom. He flunked the Praxis. Studied and took Praxis again and passed. I asked him if he would need to take the 180 hours of coursework during his first year (while concurrently teaching full-time) to gain licensure. (I had seen the 180 hour requirement for the 'Career Switcher' Program). He said, "As far as I know, since I passed the Praxis, I am a Certified teacher." He is in teacher orientation this week and will be teaching middle school on the 22nd. Quotes from him: "I'll be working from 7am - 2:30pm so I'll have a lot of free time." "This will be a cushy job." "I get 90 minutes of planning time every day, that's more than enough."

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Anonymous wrote:I know someone who has been accepted into the FCPS "Teacher Resident" Program. He went to a school hiring event and was hired on the spot. Has a Bachelor's Degree (from a good school) and 15+ years work experience in nonprofit roles. No management experience. No real "teaching" experience, but tutored and ran small groups for kids and teens with disabilities. FCPS told him that he needed to pass the Praxis (non-Core teaching subject) to start in the classroom. He flunked the Praxis. Studied and took Praxis again and passed. I asked him if he would need to take the 180 hours of coursework during his first year (while concurrently teaching full-time) to gain licensure. (I had seen the 180 hour requirement for the 'Career Switcher' Program). He said, "As far as I know, since I passed the Praxis, I am a Certified teacher." He is in teacher orientation this week and will be teaching middle school on the 22nd. Quotes from him: "I'll be working from 7am - 2:30pm so I'll have a lot of free time." "This will be a cushy job." "I get 90 minutes of planning time every day, that's more than enough."

He will probably have to do the 180 hours of coursework, but teaching during the school day counts for that so it’s really no work for him except to submit the paperwork at the end of the year

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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.

How do you know??

It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.

Personally I'd have pretty good hopes from a theater major---knows how to be interesting/engaging, can adapt and improvise, tends to be aware of social dynamics. Probably has taught theater camps, led theater groups etc. If the school can provide her good resources and supports, might be a great option. I'd rather have a theater major investigating teaching as a possibility than a long term sub who doesn't have a degree or a long-term plan.

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Anonymous wrote: He will probably have to do the 180 hours of coursework, but teaching during the school day counts for that so it’s really no work for him except to submit the paperwork at the end of the year

With no classroom management training, this could go sideways in a hurry.